RD Simon Nemec (2022, 2nd, NJD)

[GaboriklessWild]

I didn't bring up Hughes, you did. You keep bringing him up because of your own insecurities. You've mentioned him in this thread more than anyone.

Pretty poor attempt at trolling

But what do you expect from someone who thinks L. Hughes is the Devils best D - LD Luke Hughes - Univ. of Michigan, NCAA (2021, 4th, NJD)

 

[Jersey Fan 12]

Right now playing like a top 2 D, no chance they send him back down. I can't believe how composed he looks out there, like a 10 year vet. We are so lucky to have both Luke and Simon for years to come. Let's hope Casey keeps developing nicely as well and form a great trio!

As long as Hamilton is around I don't see how they play him, Luke AND Casey - that's pretty much three of the same players.

I'm more interested in Vilen, Misyul and possibly Leddy from BC down the line.

 

[Jersey Fresh]

As long as Hamilton is around I don't see how they play him, Luke AND Casey - that's pretty much three of the same players.

I'm more interested in Vilen, Misyul and possibly Leddy from BC down the line.

I don't think it's an issue. Marino's contract expires in two years, that should dovetail with Casey being ready. They just need to balance the rest of the defense.

I could see Dougie and Luke playing together on PP1, while Casey (and in the interim Nemec) anchors PP2.

 

[DevilsHughes86]

As long as Hamilton is around I don't see how they play him, Luke AND Casey - that's pretty much three of the same players.

I'm more interested in Vilen, Misyul and possibly Leddy from BC down the line.

Seems like a great problem to have down the road.
Pretty sure they're going to be alright and like Jersey Fresh says Marino's contract will be up or they can use him as trading chip.

 

[GaboriklessWild]

I don't think it's an issue. Marino's contract expires in two years, that should dovetail with Casey being ready. They just need to balance the rest of the defense.

I could see Dougie and Luke playing together on PP1, while Casey (and in the interim Nemec) anchors PP2.

Marino's contract is up in 2027 and they certainly won't replace their best PKer for a hobbit. Hamilton, Hughes, Casey will clearly not play in the same team as none of them kill penalties.

But who knows what goes on in the fantasy world of the guys here... hahah

 

[Jersey Fan 12]

Seems like a great problem to have down the road.
Pretty sure they're going to be alright and like Jersey Fresh says Marino's contract will be up or they can use him as trading chip.

Won't say it as coarsely as @GaboriklessWild but Marino is the only defender in that group.

You're not replacing him with Casey - or for that matter Luke.

 

[Jersey Fresh]

Marino's contract is up in 2027 and they certainly won't replace their best PKer for a hobbit. Hamilton, Hughes, Casey will clearly not play in the same team as none of them kill penalties.

But who knows what goes on in the fantasy world of the guys here... hahah

Tucked beneath the maniacal screeching of yours, you actually managed to latch on to a matter-of-fact - yes, Marino's contract goes for three more years, not two.

They wouldn't be "replacing" their best PKer for Casey. He would just assume his open spot on the right side, which I is why I said they'd need to balance the rest of the defense to address those areas.

 

[MasterofGrond]

Marino's contract is up in 2027 and they certainly won't replace their best PKer for a hobbit. Hamilton, Hughes, Casey will clearly not play in the same team as none of them kill penalties.

But who knows what goes on in the fantasy world of the guys here... hahah

There's zero indication Luke won't be able to play the PK. He's big enough and he's smart enough.

Why are we pretending a guy who can't drink yet has shown all the versatility he's got?

 

[My3Sons]

There's zero indication Luke won't be able to play the PK. He's big enough and he's smart enough.

Why are we pretending a guy who can't drink yet has shown all the versatility he's got?

In hf years Luke is pretty long in the tooth.

 

[GaboriklessWild]

There's zero indication Luke won't be able to play the PK. He's big enough and he's smart enough.

Why are we pretending a guy who can't drink yet has shown all the versatility he's got?

Hamilton is big, but that doesn't mean he's a PKer. Maybe in the future Hughes will be able to play the PK... Maybe he'll end up like Dahlin who's just there for show, but that will mean the team won't be a winning one. Maybe he can turn his game around like Sergachev did and become a top two-way player. Although I doubt it as I consider Sergachev's skills much better in everything...

 

[My3Sons]

Hamilton is big, but that doesn't mean he's a PKer. Maybe in the future Hughes will be able to play the PK... Maybe he'll end up like Dahlin who's just there for show, but that will mean the team won't be a winning one. Maybe he can turn his game around like Sergachev did and become a top two-way player. Although I doubt it as I consider Sergachev's skills much better in everything...

So are you thinking that NJ fans aren't ecstatic with Nemec? That they view Hughes dynamic qualities as some sort of dismissive commentary on Nemec? What's your point in all this? NJ fans are overjoyed with Nemec. They see him as already working towards an important role with the team. Luke has a head start which you'd expect for a player drafted the year prior, but it's not some sort of competition between them for the team's fans. They both look quite promising and when the time is right they may even form a pair. NJ fans by and large can't wait to see them play together. It could be something really special.

 

[Fixed to Ruin]

This Hughes vs Nemec debate is hilarious.

Devils fans right now...

 

[Wierzbowski426]

At this point, you´re just pathetic and ruining this thread. Please, just let it go...

Yup. Devils fans are thrilled to have both of them. This contest between 2 future long-term teammates is getting really really tiresome.

 

[Devs3cups]

Yup. Devils fans are thrilled to have both of them. This contest between 2 future long-term teammates is getting really really tiresome.

100%. It’s not a competition for Devils fans, we’re thrilled to have these 2 guys on defense complement each other for years to come. Exciting times.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Pretty poor attempt at trolling

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You're actually the first one who brought up Hughes, back in October, as a direct comparison, completely unsolicited. This was around the time when you were whining about Luke only making them team because of his last name.

He should ask for a trade. He was clearly much better than Hughes in the training camp and in the pre-season games. It's kind of ridiculous that they gave the guy a spot just because he's the younger brother of the first line center.

Then you brought him up again:

Game 2, another big TOI. Third most on his team with 21:45 minutes + 2:52 PK time, second most among Ds.

He is clearly given more responsibility than the older other rookie D

I mentioned Hughes, Casey, and Hamilton, and not even as a comparison to Nemec. You are the one that keeps bringing up Hughes in an insecure attempt to prop up Nemec.

Maybe you should be the one with the "LukeHughesFanboy" username, you can't stop bringing him up!

But what do you expect from someone who thinks L. Hughes is the Devils best D - LD Luke Hughes - Univ. of Michigan, NCAA (2021, 4th, NJD)

Luke has been our best defenseman this year. He's been instrumental in running the best PP in the league and has some of best defensive metrics on the team (which is pretty impressive considering he was carrying Brendan Smith). Without Smith he has dominated the opposition on both sides of the ice at 5v5:

 

[Forge]

As long as Hamilton is around I don't see how they play him, Luke AND Casey - that's pretty much three of the same players.

I'm more interested in Vilen, Misyul and possibly Leddy from BC down the line.

I don't see Hamilton on the team beyond 24-25. His NMC moves to a modified 10 team at that point I think, and by that point they may want to re-allocate that cap hit and re-diversify the talent.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

Hamilton is big, but that doesn't mean he's a PKer. Maybe in the future Hughes will be able to play the PK... Maybe he'll end up like Dahlin who's just there for show, but that will mean the team won't be a winning one. Maybe he can turn his game around like Sergachev did and become a top two-way player. Although I doubt it as I consider Sergachev's skills much better in everything...

Surely you have some statistical evidence to show that Luke Hughes has been a poor defender this season. The eye test doesn’t show this either, as someone that hasn’t missed a single game he’s played in the NHL.

Don’t know if he’ll be a good PKer down the road, but it doesn’t seem that hard to believe given his off the charts skating and talent in general.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

So are you thinking that NJ fans aren't ecstatic with Nemec? That they view Hughes dynamic qualities as some sort of dismissive commentary on Nemec? What's your point in all this? NJ fans are overjoyed with Nemec. They see him as already working towards an important role with the team. Luke has a head start which you'd expect for a player drafted the year prior, but it's not some sort of competition between them for the team's fans. They both look quite promising and when the time is right they may even form a pair. NJ fans by and large can't wait to see them play together. It could be something really special.

Nemec has been fantastic, such a calming presence out there. He and Luke could be incredible together in the future:

Hughes - Nemec
Bahl - Marino
Siegenthaler - Hamilton/Casey

The team has looked so much better without Hamilton lol.

I don't see Hamilton on the team beyond 24-25. His NMC moves to a modified 10 team at that point I think, and by that point they may want to re-allocate that cap hit and re-diversify the talent.

Agreed, I would try to move him sooner if possible.

 

[My3Sons]

Nemec has been fantastic, such a calming presence out there. He and Luke could be incredible together in the future:

Hughes - Nemec
Bahl - Marino
Siegenthaler - Hamilton/Casey

The team has looked so much better without Hamilton lol.


Agreed, I would try to move him sooner if possible.

You likely can't move Hamilton earlier than when his trade protection lessens. Both because it's somewhat bad form, NJ made a commitment to him and it's not like he's fallen off the table with them, he's basically the same player he was when they signed him, and because he's going to need to rebuild his game next season after such a significant injury. They also will need to give Casey some time to marinate in the AHL next season anyway. Bahl also has to get it together or one of the several hundred KHL prospects the team has drafted on defense might steal that spot from him. Misyul looked good in preseason and seems to be doing ok in the AHL, I wouldn't mind giving him a few games this season.

 

[Guadana]

You must be very desperate, just change your username to LukeHughesFanboy or similar. But it's getting increasingly annoying that there are at least 10 trolls like you in this thread. The trolls desperately need to mention at any Nemec milestone that how amazing Luke Hughes is....

Brag about playing third pair and getting sheltered minutes in the Luke Hughes thread. But this thread is about Simon Nemec.

So you trolls, if Nemec scores a goal or something, you don't have to keep commenting on how amazing Luke Hughes is, because Luke Hughes has nothing to do with it.

A) because they don't play together B) the comparison is completely pointless as they are two different players. One is a complete package, plays in all situations, the other is an offensive D

The only troll is you. Today Luke played more, and you have no words when people give valid arguments. Who actually watch the games, not you, who actually dont and just making bad provocating takes. A superficial personal evaluative opinion is not an argument and a logical chain . You are literally doing what trolls do - you are upping strange conversation from nowhere, start to belittling other players. And absolutely all of "trolls" are very happy with Simon and his games and are trying to make reasonable comparisons with both players.

You should really stop to troll and start to watch games.

BTW it doesnt mean that Simon is bad or worser than Luke. He isnt. You are just making bad reputation for your own and specific fans of Nemec. Stop it. Rethink your activities and reflect your position in conversation.

 

[DVision44]

Hamilton is big, but that doesn't mean he's a PKer. Maybe in the future Hughes will be able to play the PK... Maybe he'll end up like Dahlin who's just there for show, but that will mean the team won't be a winning one. Maybe he can turn his game around like Sergachev did and become a top two-way player. Although I doubt it as I consider Sergachev's skills much better in everything...

Newsflash: Hamiilton, Dahlin, Sergachev and Luke Hughes are NOT the same people... and non of them are Nemec so why are we talking about them?

 

[McDuffz88]

Nemec has been fantastic, such a calming presence out there. He and Luke could be incredible together in the future:

Hughes - Nemec
Bahl - Marino
Siegenthaler - Hamilton/Casey

The team has looked so much better without Hamilton lol.


Agreed, I would try to move him sooner if possible.

Yeah agreed. I think Nemec looking as good as he is gets the talks on Hamilton going. I love Hamilton but logistically speaking we're going to have an over abundance of dmen who can play PP or offense. Hughes, Nemec & Casey. I think best course of action is maybe hold onto Hamilton 1 more year to let Casey groom & then next year's off season make some moves. By then the cap has gone up & there would only be like 3 years left on his contract. Making it a lot easier to move & then Casey will take his role. For now I think you just demote Hamilton to 2nd or 3rd pairing while you let Nemec get the top RD minutes.

 

[Bcap88]

Let’s pump the brakes on Casey here

He’s likely still two years away at minimum

 

[VoidCreature]

Why does it matter if Whiskey is high on Hughes? If you’re trying to say he’s a homer or something you don’t know him very well. Whiskey is very consistent in his opinions of prospects regardless of who drafts them.

Nemec and Hughes are both great players and having both of them is definitely not a problem either.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Devils fans are over the moon to have both these kids. There isn't a competition inside this fanbase.

Almost everyone on HF wanted Nemec in the NHL for game 1 because he looked so good in preseason and pretty much everyone would prefer Nemec plays over trading for a Barrie or Tony D.

We love Luke and we love Nemec. Both kids are already studs and are going to anchor our blue line for a decade+.

If you want to argue which shiny coin is best...I guess that's your call, but Devils fans will continue to just swim in the Scrooge McDuck money vault we got here.