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One of the best prospects in the league - Habs picked the wrong Slovak
RD Simon Nemec (2022, 2nd, NJD)
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Antiillafire
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I don’t think so. If you swap Slafkovsky and Nemec on team Slovakia at this past WJC (Slafkovsky plays, Nemec doesn’t). Slovakia gets a medal. Slafkovsky can impact a game way more than Nemec
Those Jiricek posters earlier in the thread must be sweating.
Nemec
24/29 points not on PP in 61 games
10 goals
129 shots
Jiricek
14/38 points not on the PP in 51 games
6 goals
94 shots
Points per game outside of the powerplay:
Nemec - 0.39
Jiricek - 0.27
Stats
10G, 22A, 32P in 63 games. 0.51 PPG.
Nemec
24/29 points not on PP in 61 games
10 goals
129 shots
Jiricek
14/38 points not on the PP in 51 games
6 goals
94 shots
Points per game outside of the powerplay:
Nemec - 0.39
Jiricek - 0.27
Stats
10G, 22A, 32P in 63 games. 0.51 PPG.
GettingYourMoms
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We are not sweating we know Jiricek is better.
JT3
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Nemec wasn't the sexy pick and it was probably never going to happen for the Habs at #1 but he's probably who I liked most last draft and I had him a bit ahead of Jiricek. Jiricek has the booming shot and a bit more bite to his game but I think Nemec is better and will impact the game more in most other aspects.
Zubrus Coffee Maker
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I've been really impressed by Nemec this year, any time i've seen him play in the AHL he has never looked out of place. Such a smart player, knows the right time to pinch, the right time to dump the puck in, always finds time to recover defensively. He's going to be a really good young player in the NHL, I could easily see him settling in as a do-it-all top pairing guy
Leaving aside the Nemec v Jiricek thing, big powerplay scoring is a good thing.
If a player is merely filling in on the PP in a substitutable way, then their PP scoring can be discounted. But if a player is actually elevating the PP, like Jiricek, then they're super valuable. You can expect Jiricek to be a #1 PPQB in the NHL, maybe a great one.
I'm not even sure Slafkovsky would have as much points as Nemec if he played in AHL this season. He is a big question mark.
> Takes all the time to nitpick stats that make the player of his preference look better
> Says it's the other users that must be sweating
To be fair, there was some aggressive trash talking that led to it. I doubt any NJ fan is sweating anything hockey related right now.
Forge
Blissfully Mediocre
He's got like 14 in his last 15, has done a ton of damage at even strength, and while plus / minus isn't a great stat in general, he's still got the second highest on the team at +13 for a team with a very mediocre goal differential.
Don't care about Jiricek, doesn't plaly for the Devils. Nemec looks damn good and getting better through the year is a big, positive sign so I'm pretty happy a year in.
Don't care about Jiricek, doesn't plaly for the Devils. Nemec looks damn good and getting better through the year is a big, positive sign so I'm pretty happy a year in.
jj cale
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Having spent too much money on the AHL package for the product, I have seen a bundle of both Cleveland (5 games for Jiricek) and Utica (9 games for Nemec) and I can say one thing with certainty - I am jealous of hell of both players.
Mrb1p
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I agree it’s likely they are both excellent NHL players and both organizations will be happy. It’s not a zero sum game. On balance the rest of the team has more impact than any one player not named McDavid. Look at the Bruins. As good as Pasta is that team is way more than the sum of its parts. Look at Ottawa or Montreal. As good as their young players are there isn’t enough support for them and the teams are struggling. Anyone looking at a prospect and acting as if the comparison to any one other prospect is defining for a team is being short sighted.
Precisely. They're both poised to be excellent, albeit stylistically different, defensemen.
WarriorofTime
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Is he playing in the IIHF Senior Men's World Championship?
He is probably the 2nd best Slovakian Defenseman in the world after Erik Cernak.
He is probably the 2nd best Slovakian Defenseman in the world after Erik Cernak.
vlady
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What about Fehervary?
But yea, our national will welcome him with open arms, should he be allowed to come
It probably depends upon the NJ playoff run. He will play for Utica assuming they make the playoffs and I expect he becomes a black ace with NJ if they outlast Utica. Beyond that they probably leave it up to him.
One of the things I was trying to point out in my post but maybe it didn't come through was that Nemec has barely gotten any PP time this season til recently and has put up those stats. Perhaps if he got that time since the beginning of the season like Jiricek he would be tied or maybe even better stats wise.
Side note - I'm quite happy that the lurker I was looking for responded to my post immediately in the next post after mine.
He'd certainly have more points, if that's all folks care about. Our interest would be whether Nemec is an upgrader on the PP or just a filler. Jiricek is a potential big upgrader so his scoring there is a great sign.
and I hope that Nemec gets the chance to show if he's either.
