RD Simon Edvinsson - Grand Rapids Griffins., AHL (2021, 6th, DET)

[bsu]

If you can guarantee that you are getting this level of play from Larkin, you don’t need 2 more 2Cs. He’s currently playing just under a 90 point pace. You’ve got bodies who can fill the 3C spot. They need an above average 2C and they need to replace the deadweight on the blue line.

So much of the problems still start on the back end. Enter Edvinsson.

Detroit blue line is set for years. Just find 2 small puck moving defensemen (even someone like Djoos or Vatanen type) and plug them next to Seider and Edvinsson and your whole blue line is set.

 

[Preposterone]

Detroit blue line is set for years. Just find 2 small puck moving defensemen (even someone like Djoos or Vatanen type) and plug them next to Seider and Edvinsson and your whole blue line is set.

Wings already tried Djoos, funnily enough

 

[Stephen]

He looks like an Alex Pietrangelo with better hands. Such a sophisticated game mixed with such a prototypical franchise defenseman’s frame.

 

[bsu]

Wings already tried Djoos, funnily enough

I mean in a couple years not when they are teenagers lol. Let them sizzle a little.

 

[Dotter]

Detroit blue line is set for years. Just find 2 small puck moving defensemen (even someone like Djoos or Vatanen type) and plug them next to Seider and Edvinsson and your whole blue line is set.

Wings have a few exciting dmen in the system that don't get talked about much because they are overshadowed by the studly Seider - Edvinsson duo.

They also have a few Centers to keep a watch on. I think Theodor Niederbach just scored a goal tonight WJC.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

He looks like an Alex Pietrangelo with better hands. Such a sophisticated game mixed with such a prototypical franchise defenseman’s frame.

his skating seems a lot better than Pietrangelo too. I see a 6 ft 4 Thomas Chabot. Scary upside on this kid.

 

[shaner8989]

Absolutely incredible. Just wow.

 

[Coach Reggie Dunlop]

his skating seems a lot better than Pietrangelo too. I see a 6 ft 4 Thomas Chabot. Scary upside on this kid.

He’s 6’6 now. Grew since draft day.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

He’s 6’6 now. Grew since draft day.

lol 6 ft 6 chabot ... ridiculous.

 

[newfy]

his skating seems a lot better than Pietrangelo too. I see a 6 ft 4 Thomas Chabot. Scary upside on this kid.

I dont know if I would compare his game to Chabot, but if Edvinsson has a similar impact on the game as him the wings are gonna be scary. Im not saying he'll be as good but Hedman is the comparison that makes the most sense. Good at both ends with some bite to his game.

Watching that game its actually outrageous that Edvinsson didnt get player of the game for Sweden. 3 points including a short handed goal without playing the powerplay and was a one man break out the entire game. You honestly cant get much more dominant in a game than Edvinsson was today

 

[molotce]

I dont know if I would compare his game to Chabot, but if Edvinsson has a similar impact on the game as him the wings are gonna be scary. Im not saying he'll be as good but Hedman is the comparison that makes the most sense. Good at both ends with some bite to his game.

Watching that game its actually outrageous that Edvinsson didnt get player of the game for Sweden. 3 points including a short handed goal without playing the powerplay and was a one man break out the entire game. You honestly cant get much more dominant in a game than Edvinsson was today

that was intriguing to me, why is grans playing on PP before edvinsson (Q for anyone) ?

 

[newfy]

that was intriguing to me, why is grans playing on PP before edvinsson (Q for anyone) ?

Seems like Monten is kinda an idiot if you listen to Swedish posters.

Butttt Edvinsson also played the most mins on Sweden despite not playing the powerplay. So maybe Monten figures that playing Grans on the PP isnt a huge step down from Edvinsson but it keeps Edvinsson fresher for 5 on 5 and the PK where he makes a significant difference?

 

[molotce]

Seems like Monten is kinda an idiot if you listen to Swedish posters.

Butttt Edvinsson also played the most mins on Sweden despite not playing the powerplay. So maybe Monten figures that playing Grans on the PP isnt a huge step down from Edvinsson but it keeps Edvinsson fresher for 5 on 5 and the PK where he makes a significant difference?

yeah, edvinsson has been rested last exhibition game, maybe its about managing his minutes and he may appear there later down the road, just figures he could make this PP better than grans seems to.

 

[SwedeChristoffer]

that was intriguing to me, why is grans playing on PP before edvinsson (Q for anyone) ?

It's because he doesn't play on the PP for Frölunda.

As far as I know Montén (Swedens head coach) hasn't made a comment on this specific case, and I'm not saying that he is right or wrong, but he has mentioned it earlier that, since it's such a short tournament he prefers the players to have played the specific role for their club, so that they are used to it, and doesn't have to learn while on the job.



Also, just a personal opinion, but I think the weaknesses that are still there in Edvinssons game (passing and shooting accuracy) lends itself quite poorly to playing on the PP. Edvinssons strengths in the offensive zone is that he is very mobile and unpredictable, where he is opening up a lot of space and creating holes in the defense by moving around (and his pinches). None of that is particularly useful on the PP though, making tape-to-tape passes, being there as a shooting threat while also being open as a safety net if the forwards are getting in trouble are the primary requirements as a PP "quarterback". Not saying he will never get there, but at the moment i don't think he has the accuracy to full-fill the PP quarterback-role, and I think that's one of the reasons he didn't get an extended look for Frölunda.

 

[molotce]

It's because he doesn't play on the PP for Frölunda.

As far as I know Montén (Swedens head coach) hasn't made a comment on this specific case, and I'm not saying that he is right or wrong, but he has mentioned it earlier that, since it's such a short tournament he prefers the players to have played the specific role for their club, so that they are used to it, and doesn't have to learn while on the job.



Also, just a personal opinion, but I think the weaknesses that are still there in Edvinssons game (passing and shooting accuracy) lends itself quite poorly to playing on the PP. Edvinssons strengths in the offensive zone is that he is very mobile and unpredictable, where he is opening up a lot of space and creating holes in the defense by moving around (and his pinches). None of that is particularly useful on the PP though, making tape-to-tape passes, being there as a shooting threat while also being open as a safety net if the forwards are getting in trouble are the primary requirements as a PP "quarterback". Not saying he will never get there, but at the moment i don't think he has the accuracy to full-fill the PP quarterback-role, and I think that's one of the reasons he didn't get an extended look for Frölunda.

Makes sense, i knew frolunda gave him a try there. But i think his passes arent that bad, especially since he’ll have more time space and mostly short range. i agree for the shot but i think he has good hands and mobility to just create stuff. Theres also a difference between u20 pk’ers and SHL pk’ers, i think edvinsson would be able to exploit and get away with more, my personal opinion.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

I agree, you need atleast 2 more real 2C's if Larkin is going to be your top line center imo. If you get someone better than Larkin even better.

I think if you get somebody to push Larkin to 2C, and have Veleno as 3C, you'd be just fine. Depth is the real problem in Detroit. Really good first line and not much after that. Really good defender in Seider and not much after that.

Defensive depth should be solved in the next 2 years with Edvinsson coming and hopefully one of Wallinder/Johansson/Buium panning out on LHD. Winger is already a pretty deep position for Detroit with Raymond/Bert/Vrana/Zadina/Fabbri. Center is the real problem. Suter/Veleno/Rasmussen are in over their head as a 2C, but any could be a suitable 3C.

 

[VictoriaJetsFan]

Edvinsson reminded me of Pronger today.

 

[Pavels Dog]

It's because he doesn't play on the PP for Frölunda.

As far as I know Montén (Swedens head coach) hasn't made a comment on this specific case, and I'm not saying that he is right or wrong, but he has mentioned it earlier that, since it's such a short tournament he prefers the players to have played the specific role for their club, so that they are used to it, and doesn't have to learn while on the job.



Also, just a personal opinion, but I think the weaknesses that are still there in Edvinssons game (passing and shooting accuracy) lends itself quite poorly to playing on the PP. Edvinssons strengths in the offensive zone is that he is very mobile and unpredictable, where he is opening up a lot of space and creating holes in the defense by moving around (and his pinches). None of that is particularly useful on the PP though, making tape-to-tape passes, being there as a shooting threat while also being open as a safety net if the forwards are getting in trouble are the primary requirements as a PP "quarterback". Not saying he will never get there, but at the moment i don't think he has the accuracy to full-fill the PP quarterback-role, and I think that's one of the reasons he didn't get an extended look for Frölunda.

Spot on. His biggest problem right now imo is the shot selection/accuracy.
One of the few strong arguments for him being in AHL next season is that he could play on the powerplay and work on that skill, because I think it's just about getting the reps for him.

 

[Frolov 6'3]

that was intriguing to me, why is grans playing on PP before edvinsson (Q for anyone) ?

Because Grans is very offensively gifted and defensively a lot less.

Also converted from forward to defenseman.

 

[wetcoast]

I dont know if I would compare his game to Chabot, but if Edvinsson has a similar impact on the game as him the wings are gonna be scary. Im not saying he'll be as good but Hedman is the comparison that makes the most sense. Good at both ends with some bite to his game.

Watching that game its actually outrageous that Edvinsson didnt get player of the game for Sweden. 3 points including a short handed goal without playing the powerplay and was a one man break out the entire game. You honestly cant get much more dominant in a game than Edvinsson was today

Fully agree, Edvinsson was a monster out there today just controlled everything so much poise.

 

[wetcoast]

Because Grans is very offensively gifted and defensively a lot less.

Also converted from forward to defenseman.

I have watched Grans live a couple of times in the aHL this year and he is going to be a very solid NHL Dman for a very long time as well.

 

[SantosHalper]

Detroit blue line is set for years. Just find 2 small puck moving defensemen (even someone like Djoos or Vatanen type) and plug them next to Seider and Edvinsson and your whole blue line is set.

Small D-Men ain't part of the Yzerplan. Anything under 6'0'' are nothing but spare parts.

Every defenseman acquired by Yzerman in Tampa & Detroit.
Oleg Sosunov 205 cm / 6'9"
Andrej Sustr 201 cm / 6'7"
Keith Aulie 198 cm / 6'6"
Braydon Coburn 196 cm / 6'5"
Eric Brewer 193 cm / 6'4"
Cal Foote 193 cm / 6'4"
Niklaus Perbix 193 cm / 6'4"
Pavel Kubina 193 cm / 6'4"
Mike Commodore 193 cm / 6'4"
Brendan Mikkelson 191 cm / 6'3"
Sami Salo 191 cm / 6'3"
Jake Dotchin 191 cm / 6'3"
Dylan Blujus 191 cm / 6'3"
Brian Lee 190 cm / 6'3"
Mikhail Sergachyov 190 cm / 6'3"
Dmitri Korobov 189 cm / 6'2"
Randy Jones 188 cm / 6'2"
Mathieu Roy 188 cm / 6'2"
J.P. Cote 188 cm / 6'2"
Slater Koekkoek 188 cm / 6'2"
Brock Baukeboom 188 cm / 6'2"
Geoff Schemitsch 188 cm / 6'2"
Dominik Masin 188 cm / 6'2"
John Macleod 188 cm / 6'2"
Matt Spencer 188 cm / 6'2"
Dmitri Semykin 188 cm / 6'2"
Alex Green 188 cm / 6'2"
Libor Hajek 187 cm / 6'2"
Bruno Gervais 185 cm / 6'1"
Matt Gilroy 185 cm / 6'1"
Michael Kostka 185 cm / 6'1"
Jason Garrison 185 cm / 6'1"
Dan Girardi 185 cm / 6'1"
Ryan McDonagh 185 cm / 6'1"
Teigan Zahn 185 cm / 6'1"
Ben Thomas 185 cm / 6'1"
Radim Salda 185 cm / 6'1"
Brett Clarke 183 cm / 6'0"
Mike Vernace 183 cm / 6'0"
Evan Oberg 183 cm / 6'0"
Matt Carle 183 cm / 6'0"
Radko Gudas 183 cm / 6'0"
Nikita Nesterov 181 cm / 5'11" (119 regular season games, 26 playoff games before getting traded)
Anton Strålman 180 cm / 5'11"(5 years in Tampa despite being "undersized", but still a giant compered to Sam Girard)
Adam Janosik 180 cm / 5'11" (3rd round pick, never signed)
Tony DeAngelo 180 cm / 5'11" (1st round pick, traded 2 years later)
Ryan Zuhlsdorf 180 cm / 5'11" (5th round pick, never signed)
Matt Taormina 178 cm / 5'10" (AHL depth)
Marc-Andre Bergeron 175 cm / 5'9" (78 regular season games, 14 playoff games in 2,5 years before getting traded)

1/2

2/2
Kyle Wood 200 cm / 6'7"
Simon Edvinsson 198 cm / 6'6"
Antti Tuomisto 195 cm / 6'5"
Moritz Seider 193 cm / 6'4"
William Wallinder 193 cm / 6'4"
Marc Staal 193 cm / 6'4"
Patrik Nemeth 192 cm / 6'4"
Shai Buium 191 cm / 6'3"
Jon Merrill 191 cm / 6'3"
Dan Renouf 191 cm / 6'3"
Wyatt Newpower 191 cm / 6'3"
Oliwer Kaski 190 cm / 6'3"
Gustav Berglund 189 cm / 6'2"
Alex Cotton 188 cm / 6'2"
Luke Witkowski 188 cm / 6'2"
Donovan Sebrango 185 cm / 6'1"
Cooper Moore 185 cm / 6'1"
Cody Goloubef 185 cm / 6'1"
Oscar Plandowski 183 cm / 6'0"
Eemil Viro 183 cm / 6'0"
Kyle Aucoin 183 cm / 6'0"
Albert Johansson 183 cm / 6'0"
Nick Leddy 183 cm / 6'0"
Jordan Oesterle 183 cm / 6'0"
Christian Djoos 181 cm / 5'11" (warm body)
Alex Biega 178 cm / 5'10" (extra D)
Troy Stecher 178 cm / 5'10" (bottom pair d-man during the 1st season, extra D during 2nd season)

It's quite clear, no way Yzerman trades for Girard unless it's a 3-way deal or Sakic gives Girard for free. No room for small d-men in Yzerplan.

 

[raymond23]

Freak athlete

 

[julkki]

Freak athlete

Damn, that's impressive. He is going to be a monster..

 

[wingerdinger]

All he needs to work on is his consistency. As a wings fan we are incredible blessed to have him and Sieder.