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RD Simon Edvinsson - Grand Rapids Griffins., AHL (2021, 6th, DET)

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VictorLustig said:
Interesting. When did he sign with the Red Wings?
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Well you see the Wings drafted him, so they have his NHL rights for the foreseeable future. If he is in a position to make the team out of camp next season, you're fooling yourself if you think he is going to play for Frolunda and not the Wings. An ELC contract is just a formality, one they haven't needed to do yet because he was always going to be playing in the SHL this season. It will get signed well before training camp starts next season.
 
Honestly speaking as a neutral I'm ok with this. Not sure what Kronwall's official role is but if teams are ok with it why not. They all want to go to the NHL that's the end goal.

That being said the red wings could always splash a little extra$$ to the teams and keep a good relationship.
 
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VictorLustig said:
Seider was on loan to Rögle. Huge difference. Contracts exist for a reason. YOU play the way WE (not anyone else) want you to play and WE pay YOU for it. That's the agreement.

"Additional help" can be helpful...or not so helpful. In Edvinssons case, does he really need input from more people?
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He was at Frolunda a lot last year, so this is already happening apparently without your knowledge. The Wings also have a long standing relationship with Frolunda through Hakan Andersson. So I am not really sure what upsets you so much. Giving pointers on how to be an better NHL player helps you become a better SHL player. They are driving on them for a higher level, having them put an asset and to be clear all of those guys over in Sweden last year raved about him in terms of Seider, Raymond, Berggren etc.

So the Kronwall factor is a thing, in his two post playing years the prospects have talked about at length is what a great teacher he is. He breaks down tape for them, teaches them habits and is just another resource. It's a neat concept we do it a lot with our North American prospects, I am glad to see the investment the Wings are making there and I think it was crucial during the covid era to get a guy over there, there have always been periodical trips. With the level of investments these guys represent it isn't surprising, I think you undersell how much they are around the picture after they draft them. At least the Wings have been for a very a long time, they seem to be doubling down even more with Yzerman in charge and they already had considerable investments in these areas in my opinion. Not a bad thing, the Wings used to loan Fischer to the Czech junior teams, I think it would be interesting if they started doing that with Kronwall if he was interested, seems kind of a fit thus far in terms of his post-playing career.
 
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VictorLustig said:
You are missing the entire point. Edvinsson is playing under 2 year contract with Frölunda. He's their propert entirely. Any involvement by the Red Wings at this point is problematic.

We've seen former NHL players with better careers than Kronwall get back to Swedish hockey and fail completely. I have nothing against Kronwall, experience as a player is never a bad thing but he has zero experience when it comes to player development. Developing teenagers is something Frölunda does better than any NHL team anyway.
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Kronwall has been Detroit's developmental coach for several years now and had a similar function when he was in NA right after retiring. Now that he lives in Sweden where many of the Redwing's prospects are, he has been very active in helping our prospects develop there.

Kronwall is highly respected in Sweden not only by Frolunda's staff but also by the national team management. He was even asked to advise for the Swedish national team coaching staff.

As mentioned in previous articles, he has been hands on in terms of monitoring, giving postgame feedback, improving their weaknesses, and even scheduling post game training sessions in Sweden for Detroit's Redwings prospects.

Kronvall is not the sole reason many of our prospects have improved this year in Sweden but even our prospects in interviews point out that he has played a major factor in their improvement this year. Considering that 4 of the top U21 players in the SHL statistically are Redwings prospects, this demonstrates what having a knowledgeable former All Star veteran can do for his organization in helping develop them.

The Detroit Redwings also gets Kronwall's direct feedback and recommendation on whether a player is ready to move on to the NHL and he is most likely directly responsible for getting a promising prospect like Wallinder to move to Rogle this year where he has flourished and has improved by leaps and bounds after somewhat struggling last year.
 
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Well that's his own fault for expecting a terrible player. You don't usually pick mistake prone defensemen 6th overall unless I guess you figure they can score at a PPG rate which is not Edvinsson's billing.
 
DITB said:
Well that's his own fault for expecting a terrible player. You don't usually pick mistake prone defensemen 6th overall unless I guess you figure they can score at a PPG rate which is not Edvinsson's billing.
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Where did you have him ranked at the draft?
 
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I definitely wouldn't. Kronwall has a ton of valuable experience and success at the highest level of competition. Besides, he's really more focused on developing the Wings prospects rather than the team(s) in general. There is an understanding at lower levels of hockey that when it comes to premier prospects like Raymond and Edvinsson they are just a pit stop on their journey to the NHL. So Kronwall is not random in that he is there on behalf of the team responsible for and invested in their development. It's a win-win situation. Detroit has a man on the ground who seems very good at what he's doing, and the SHL teams can benefit from the improvements that stem from Kronwall's input for the short time they have these players before they graduate.
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I'm seriously confused. I thought Staffan Kronwall was mentoring Edvinsson, not Niklas Kronwall.
 
I wanted Edvinsson at #3 so bad. McTavish is tracking well though.

Imagine Edvinsson- Drysdale for the next 10 years though... talk about perfect partners.

His skillset is insane he seriously has the potential to be the next Hedman.

I think Power will be a similar impact defensemen as Ekblad but Edvinsson will be even better. Both will be awesome franchise defensemen.

The thing with Edvinsson is not only does he have the highest potential out of anyone in his draft class but his floor is also high IMO.
 
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bsu said:
I wanted Edvinsson at #3 so bad. McTavish is tracking well though.

Imagine Edvinsson- Drysdale for the next 10 years though... talk about perfect partners.

His skillset is insane he seriously has the potential to be the next Hedman.

I think Power will be a similar impact defensemen as Ekblad but Edvinsson will be even better. Both will be awesome franchise defensemen.

The thing with Edvinsson is not only does he have the highest potential out of anyone in his draft class but his floor is also high IMO.
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I was all aboard the Edvinsson train at #3 as well, he's so impressive. Some wrinkles in his overall game to iron out but he's going to be a workhorse.
 
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TCNorthstars said:
Not really. Larkin is a 1b. We get one to push him down the chart and we are good to go.
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I agree, you need atleast 2 more real 2C's if Larkin is going to be your top line center imo. If you get someone better than Larkin even better.
 
bsu said:
I agree, you need atleast 2 more real 2C's if Larkin is going to be your top line center imo. If you get someone better than Larkin even better.
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If you can guarantee that you are getting this level of play from Larkin, you don’t need 2 more 2Cs. He’s currently playing just under a 90 point pace. You’ve got bodies who can fill the 3C spot. They need an above average 2C and they need to replace the deadweight on the blue line.

So much of the problems still start on the back end. Enter Edvinsson.
 
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