Dang, this kid looks big, mean, nasty, and talented. Wish the leafs had someone like him in the pipeline. I doubted Yzerman’s first round drafting decisions, but this pick looks fantastic
RD Moritz Seider (2019, 6th, DET)
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I read the name of this thread (his name) and remembered I have a cider in my fridge. He... made my day. So I assume he has good intangibles
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Seider's 5 points from passing Voynov for #2 all time for 18 year old AHL defenders. 10 points off Sandin.
9 game stint in Detroit might keep him from passing Sandin. Still, not bad for a guy who supposedly had no offensive upside.
9 game stint in Detroit might keep him from passing Sandin. Still, not bad for a guy who supposedly had no offensive upside.
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This is a few weeks old, but didn't see it posted here, just an interview with him and Fox Sports Detroit.
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There is a belief he will get 9 games in March like Zadina did last year. We are guessing he will be called up after the deadline at some point currently.
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More physical but thats the type of impact I think most wings fans would expect from him. A top pairing calibre d man that is a great defensive guy, can skate really well but can chip in 35 points to go with it.
Seider is actually hard to get a comparison for because off how physical he is. Byfuglien is a massive hitter/physical but is a big offensive guy (and outta the league as of right now I guess). Guys like Parayko and Slavin arent physical guys but check the other boxes. So I guess its easiest to say a more physical version of them is the best itll get
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Weber without a cannon of a shot honestly might be the best you can come up with.
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Yeah a 35 point Weber isnt a bad comparison either but those multiple 20 goal seasons from Weber are hard to get past. I actually dont think Weber is much of a hitter either. Hes a tough dman but hes more physical in the corners and in front of the net. Seider is a big hitter in the open ice and along the boards. Search Shea Weber hit on youtube and there isnt really any big hits that come up. Theyre both physical but theyre physical in different ways
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Minus the cannon shot would cover the 20 goals.
Unless Seider develops his shot, he probably gets 5-10.
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It always seemed weird to me that this guy wasn't in the consensus top 10. Checks literally every single box NHL teams want from a dman. Puck moving dmen with good skating are obviously coveted these days but how often will you find a kid who on top of that also happens to be right-handed and physically dominant?
no. I don't think that I caught Edler in his prime but I've never been impressed by his style of play.
Seider is a play driving high impact d man. At 18 he is the best player on the AHL Griffins. His counting stats will never jump off the screen but his impact on the defensive end leads to a steady net positive whenever he's on the ice. Very calm, smart, skilled, and physical.
Weber without a bomb is a good comparison.
I’ve been thinking of Mattias Ohlund since the Wings drafted Seider.
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Whatever happened to Ohlund? Seems like he was a name and then just fell off the face of the earth.
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Ohlund seems like a good comparison in terms of skill-set and overall playing style, but Seider is definitely more physical.
He signed with Tampa and then knee injuries ended his career.
Ohlund was pretty physical, no? Take a look at this thread from thee Canucks board:
I can't think of a better open-ice body checker who played D for the Canucks. What a beast.
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He messed up his eye and never recovered fully I'm pretty sure.
Ohlund was a hammer out there too. Thats a really good comparison I think. Hopefully Seider is a little bit more of a consistent offensive threat but Ohlund was a 3 time Olympian that hit 35 points a few times and was a defensive stud
That was earlier in his career in 1999. He had multiple surgeries and I understand his eye was never quite the same.
He was supposed to be much more offensive than he became. Projected to be like Hedman (or rather, Hedman was projected as a Mattias Ohlund type with realized offensive potential).
He played the rest of his career as more of an all-around d-man top pairing/top 4 dman, missing that smidgen of extra stuff that could have made him a Norris contender. You look at their career projections and the missed time/eye damage came right when Hedman started to trend into where he is now.
Ohlund and Edler are actually fairly similar. Edler is actually a pretty physical defenseman. Ohlund was just a bit bigger - closer to Weber's size, but Edler is no slouch.
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I remember his eye being messed up but ya with googles help youre right, that isnt what ended him early. I like the Ohlund comparison for Seider more though style wise than Edler. Edler actually reminded me more of Kronwall, an offensive/two way D who would throw big open ice hits but wasnt all around a physical guy like Ohlund and Seider are/were. Ohlund might be the best comparison I've heard for Seider honestly.
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I wish the AHL tracked ice time. I'd love to know how many minutes a game Seider is getting for Grand Rapids.
