RD Mitchell Miller - Tri-City Storm, USHL (2020, 111th, ARI, rights renounced)

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Show of hands, but whose parents here are letting them play hockey and hang out around town after they go to court for racist bullying.

I mean if I did what Miller did, I’d say BYE BYE to all friends, soft ass parents
 
I find it hilarious that now that Arizona can't get an unfair advantage interviewing prospect they get the biggest scumbag of the pool

It's probably why they drafted him. By all accounts he's incredibly talented . The type of talent you usually don't get in the 4th round. His problems are not related to the actual hockey .
 
To get out from under this type of mistake, significant efforts must be made. No face to face apology is unacceptable.

I look at someone like Michael Vick arrested for animal cruelty. He has made amends by dedicating his time, resources, and actions to make real impact.

Mitchell has done nothing of the sort. He did not deserve to be drafted and he shouldn’t have an opportunity to play unless he goes above and beyond to right his wrongs.
 
This is only an issue because Miller continues to make it an issue. If he had stopped when he was told to and gave an honest sincere apology this would have been an ugly incident he learned from and an opportunity to improve himself.

He bullied this kid for years and never stopped. He was told to stop. He was taken to court. He apologized to the media and the NHL but not the victim. He continues to torment this kid indirectly.

The performative apology by his family and representatives show that he's surrounded by people willing to enable this behavior if they think it will help his career. And unfortunately, it seems as though it will. He was drafted.

Obviously it's still his life and only he can decide how he will live going forward, but none of this is encouraging. Instead of being a man and owning up to his mistakes he continues to sidestep responsibility and do the bare minimum his career requires. He deserves every ounce of criticism and disrespect that he's getting.
 
You're just going to ignore the sentencing judge?

Fact is, either Miller has not changed, or the family is deliberately targetting and slandering him. I know which seems more likely to me, and I think it is quite literally playing devils advocate to treat the two sides as equal, especially when a judge signals him out amongst the perpetrators as being particularly unremorseful.
Either Mitchell is lying or he didn’t start his road to redemption until well after sentencing.
 
Either Mitchell is lying or he didn’t start his road to redemption until well after sentencing.
The fact that the victim family maintains that nothing has changed in him is a lot more credible than what appears to be little more than a very carefully manicured PR tour.
 
Show of hands, but whose parents here are letting them play hockey and hang out around town after they go to court for racist bullying.

I mean if I did what Miller did, I’d say BYE BYE to all friends, soft ass parents

Idk there's also parents who will high-five their kids for behaviour like this. Rarely ever do kids who behave like this come out of nowhere .
 
To get out from under this type of mistake, significant efforts must be made. No face to face apology is unacceptable.

I look at someone like Michael Vick arrested for animal cruelty. He is made amends by dedicating his time, resources, and actions to make real impact.

Mitchell has done nothing of the sort. He did not deserve to be drafted and he shouldn’t have an opportunity to play unless he goes above and beyond to right his wrongs.
Vick and Mitchell are different in that Vick was an adult and a millionaire.

It seems really bad that Mitchell didn’t apologize in person after his accomplice did and found it made a positive difference.
 
Vick and Mitchell are different in that Vick was an adult and a millionaire.

It seems really bad that Mitchell didn’t apologize in person after his accomplice did and found it made a positive difference.

The importance of taking actions to reverse the harm you’ve caused are the same to me, adult or child. I believe age is a factor to consider with punishment and consequences, but not moral reparations. That’s important no matter the age.
 
Idk there's also parents who will high-five their kids for behaviour like this. Rarely ever do kids who behave like this come out of nowhere .

Will agree 100% with that. They learn it from somewhere... probably parents
 
That’s hard for me to know. I don’t know what he has or hasn’t done.

Perhaps the other bully had better parents or fewer problems. Perhaps he apologized prior to the court mandated apology letter. I don’t know. Maybe the other kid cleaned up his act sooner, while Miller continued to be a shit head for another year. I really don’t know.

There's more information here that you might not have heard.

-- The victim, the victim's mother, as well as many other kids at their Jr. High describe a long-term pattern of abuse:

"Meyer-Crothers, also 18 and who now lives in Detroit, said Miller had taunted him for years, constantly calling him "brownie" and the "N-word," while repeatedly hitting him while growing up in the Toledo suburb. Other students at their junior high confirmed to police that Miller repeatedly used the "N-word" in referring to Meyer-Crothers."

-- "The incident happened during warmups of the game and about 40 kids can be seen watching the attack, said Ms. Meyer-Crothers. She said one of the girls who reported it to the school’s principal also said she had seen Isaiah bullied so many times that she just got sick of it."

-- The victim and the victim's mother claim that Miller had been assaulting the victim for many years, going back to when they were ~8 years old. (A lot of this was reported in the Toledo Blade back then and I've gone through all of my free articles right now, perhaps you can find the quotes). The victim's mother says the "incident" is just the thing that got Miller caught, that there was years of stuff that he's never owned up to.

Contrast all of that information with the statement from Miller that talks about "an incident that happened four years ago, when I was in 8th grade". It sure looks like Miller hasn't yet fully owned up to his past.
 
Not by the accounts given by the player, his handlers, the NHL team the NCAA team and the USHL team.

The counter arguments are his victims and internet hockey prospect writers.

The player and his camp are biased and could easily be lying. The USHL team maybe is lying too and just wanted the player because they think he’s that good at hockey. Maybe the NCAA and NHL team are doing the same.

The victims are still angry with him. And that is definitely worrying. The prospect website writer doesn’t mean much to me.

There are also reportedly some other NHL teams that weren’t impressed. I wish we had more detail on that.

The judge who sentenced him also seemed to think he wasn't remorseful. It's not exactly commonplace for a judge to say something like that, especially to a juvenile...and they deal with the worst of society on a daily basis.
 
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Why are his actions being classified as “bullying”?

Bullying is calling someone fat and making fun of them. What this awful human did should be considered abuse and torture.

Exactly.. this isn't bullying, it is abuse and it was an on going pattern of psychological and physical abuse, which would likely meet the threshold for torture..

also the lack of empathy and remorse is something you see in psychopaths.. that's probably the most disgusting and scary part of this, that there is no evidence of any regret, only the concern it impacts his prospects of employment.
 
There's more information here that you might not have heard.

-- The victim, the victim's mother, as well as many other kids at their Jr. High describe a long-term pattern of abuse:

"Meyer-Crothers, also 18 and who now lives in Detroit, said Miller had taunted him for years, constantly calling him "brownie" and the "N-word," while repeatedly hitting him while growing up in the Toledo suburb. Other students at their junior high confirmed to police that Miller repeatedly used the "N-word" in referring to Meyer-Crothers."

-- "The incident happened during warmups of the game and about 40 kids can be seen watching the attack, said Ms. Meyer-Crothers. She said one of the girls who reported it to the school’s principal also said she had seen Isaiah bullied so many times that she just got sick of it."

-- The victim and the victim's mother claim that Miller had been assaulting the victim for many years, going back to when they were ~8 years old. (A lot of this was reported in the Toledo Blade back then and I've gone through all of my free articles right now, perhaps you can find the quotes). The victim's mother says the "incident" is just the thing that got Miller caught, that there was years of stuff that he's never owned up to.

Contrast all of that information with the statement from Miller that talks about "an incident that happened four years ago, when I was in 8th grade". It sure looks like Miller hasn't yet fully owned up to his past.
Great point. Calling it an incident given that context, certainly seems like an intentional minimization of events.

Also, it seems like a really long pattern of very disturbing behavior. I wonder if Mitchell has received psychiatric treatment? Could explain why he didn’t apparat you change much even after being caught but now gets glowing reviews from Tri-City and Arizona.

It’s more likely that he’s just lying and the teams are just callous. But it could be one explanation for how things “seem” to have “changed”. But I’m just wildly speculating at this point.
 
This is some shit you’d expect to see from like a 14 year old Jeffery Dahmer or Ted Bundy. Just blood curdling shit.
 
What he do? bully a disabled kid? sorry I can't find the info

Bullied a mentally handicapped black kid by befriending him and making him to disgusting things (eat candy that was in a urinal, etc.), constantly called him the n-word among other words. Was charged for it and sent to a juvenile facility. Had to write an apology letter as mandated by the court, the family of the victim never got the letter and he has made no effort at all to ever apologize to the victim. While the other bully (there were two of them who bullied him) apparently broke down in tears apologizing.

Said f***head Mitchell sent an apology letter to every team in hopes of getting drafted, HAS YET TO APOLOGIZE TO VICTIM.
 
When you are genuinely remorseful and taking responsibility for your extremely f***ed up behavior you have to be vocal and honest about it. Keeping your head down to salvage your hockey career isn't taking responsibility. Hoping something gets forgotten isn't taking responsibility. It doesn't matter how old he was when he did it. He's an adult now and still not actively and loudly showing remorse or making amends. He's had plenty of time for hockey but apparently not enough time to apologize to the person he abused. f*** this guy.
 
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