Confirmed with Link: [COL, CAR, CHI] Rantanen-Hall to CAR, Necas-Drury-25 2nd-26 4th to COL, Chi 25 3rd to Chi (Ret 50% on Mikko)

[JoeSakic13]

My favorite part of this is that Carolina is currently lined up to play a Hughes-less New Jersey in the 1st round.

So if Colorado (or whoever faces them) is able to take down Dallas in round 1, there’s a solid chance that Carolina has more short-term success since the trade deadline.

 

[LOFIN]

Agree with this however I would argue , as I said before, that CMac didn't even want to convince him it was the last offer. They only wanted him to THINK the final offer was a strategy. They knew he would still refuse and come back with a counter-offer. The 11.75M offer was just to look like they wanted to re-sign him. I am convinced they didn't even want to sign him over 11M. There is a reason why they stopped at 11.75M. That number showed the world they wanted to re-sign him and was the perfect number to bait him in thinking it wasn't really their last offer. Then Boom! They use their refusal as an opportunity to do what they wanted to do in the first place: trade him to use the cap space to re-balance the roster. That is why Mikko was so surprised. He thought he still had until the TDL to negotiate. Necas' breakout was key to that new direction though.

That's my theory and I am sticking to it.

What I find really interesting is to wonder, how Mikko and his agent had reacted if they had known that Necas is on the table from the Canes. Because had they known that, I think they take it far more seriously that a trade is about to go down.

 

[AllAboutAvs]

What I find really interesting is to wonder, how Mikko and his agent had reacted if they had known that Necas is on the table from the Canes. Because had they known that, I think they take it far more seriously that a trade is about to go down.

Absolutely agree with that. That's why nothing came out IMO.

 

[hawk30]

Why would Cmac telling Rantanen "this is the final offer" be any more convincing than letting Carolina talk to him?

That would just as easily be viewed as a negotiating tactic. Think about it.

 

[SB]

Agree with this however I would argue , as I said before, that CMac didn't even want to convince him it was the last offer. They only wanted him to THINK the final offer was a strategy. They knew he would still refuse and come back with a counter-offer. The 11.75M offer was just to look like they wanted to re-sign him. I am convinced they didn't even want to sign him over 11M. There is a reason why they stopped at 11.75M. That number showed the world they wanted to re-sign him and was the perfect number to bait him in thinking it wasn't really their last offer. Then Boom! They use their refusal as an opportunity to do what they wanted to do in the first place: trade him to use the cap space to re-balance the roster. That is why Mikko was so surprised. He thought he still had until the TDL to negotiate. Necas' breakout was key to that new direction though.

That's my theory and I am sticking to it.

I agree with you.

 

[Avs_19]

 

[The Merchant]

 

[Vaslof]

Why would Cmac telling Rantanen "this is the final offer" be any more convincing than letting Carolina talk to him?

That would just as easily be viewed as a negotiating tactic. Think about it.

Indeed. That's why it's WIFOM and thus a dumb game to play.

 

[PAZ]

Honestly that's impressive Carolina was able to get that package if Rants was only willing to sign with 4 teams, and I imagine 3 of them didn't have space or assets for Rants.

 

[flyfysher]

Here’s the question no one has asked or answered. Had the Avs re-signed Mikko then does anyone truly believe he would have upped his play, effort and intensity? For $12M+ AAV the answer should be yes. He’s certainly capable of that as we have previously seen. But I don’t have any faith that he will and I’d be okay with circumstances eventually proving me wrong.

A second question. Do you think the team would be better with or without Mikko on it post-TDL?

 

[Vaslof]

Edmonton is the last one then.

 

[Pokecheque]

Damn, Rod the Bod ain't holding back.

 

[NorthernAvsFan]

I think everything worked out for the best.

It was going to be very difficult to build a team around Mikko’s $12M, with MacKinnon and soon Makar making big money.

And even for this season, there’s little to no drop-off with Necas. Let alone the extra cap/assets they’ve been able to use to bring in other players.

Necas probably won’t get quite the same amount of points as Mikko. But his speed and transition game helps in intimidating the opposition.

 

[John Mandalorian]

CMac has a reputation of being a straight shooter, no nonsense GM so the fact that the agent didnt suggest to Mikko to take the final offer is on him. Hopefully we dont have to play this game with Necas/his agent.

Would you expect that agents have learned to take MacFarland seriously and not play around?

 

[Alienblood]

I doubt Tampa was ever in on Rantanen. Swap them out for Toronto, that's what I believe could be close.

He was willing to go to Toronto and Edmonton as reported

 

[Vaslof]

Damn, Rod the Bod ain't holding back.

Mikko f***ed him over big time. At least if the reports are true. They were allowed to talk to him and he showed interest. Then when they trade for him, he immediately says he's not going to sign.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

 

[CobraAcesS]

Agree with this however I would argue , as I said before, that CMac didn't even want to convince him it was the last offer. They only wanted him to THINK the final offer was a strategy. They knew he would still refuse and come back with a counter-offer. The 11.75M offer was just to look like they wanted to re-sign him. I am convinced they didn't even want to sign him over 11M. There is a reason why they stopped at 11.75M. That number showed the world they wanted to re-sign him and was the perfect number to bait him in thinking it wasn't really their last offer. Then Boom! They use their refusal as an opportunity to do what they wanted to do in the first place: trade him to use the cap space to re-balance the roster. That is why Mikko was so surprised. He thought he still had until the TDL to negotiate. Necas' breakout was key to that new direction though.

That's my theory and I am sticking to it.

Yep, completely on this bandwagon. They knew he was going for Drai's contract, and wanted zero to do with it.

I just remember thinking all season. This isn't going to work built this way, nor is it fun to watch. We weren't the only ones apparently.

 

[CobraAcesS]

Mikko f***ed him over big time. At least if the reports are true. They were allowed to talk to him and he showed interest. Then when they trade for him, he immediately says he's not going to sign.

It wasn't immediately by any stretch, so I think in the end Mikko really said no to Rod as his coach.

 

[LOFIN]

It wasn't immediately by any stretch, so I think in the end Mikko really said no to Rod as his coach.

Or rather, his GF said f*** Raleigh

 

[CobraAcesS]

Or rather, his GF said f*** Raleigh

Lol, you think his GF really overarchingly dictated where he ended up for the next 8 years? More than a coach who expected him to actually backcheck? They have power, but usually they need a ring to weild it at that level.

 

[LOFIN]

Lol, you think his GF really overarchingly dictated where he ended up for the next 8 years? More than a coach who expected him to actually backcheck? They have power, but usually they need a ring to weild it at that level.

Rantanen said on the TSN interview that he had to think about the off ice situation for his fiancee as well.

 

[CobraAcesS]

Rantanen said on the TSN interview that he had to think about the off ice situation for his fiancee as well.

I fkn know exactly what he said. Listened to it multiple times.

 

[Vaslof]

It wasn't immediately by any stretch, so I think in the end Mikko really said no to Rod as his coach.

I don't think Rod is lying about that.

 

[CobraAcesS]

I don't think Rod is lying about that.

I'm just saying he didn't get off the plane and say no. I think he got a taste of how playing hockey there was going to be, and said no.

I mean Necas didn't seem to enjoy it either lol.

The point you all are missing, that I am making is that high octane offensive players do not like Rod. If Mikko promptly goes back to PPG, you have to start to wonder.