RD Landon Dupont - Everett Silvertips, WHL (2027 Draft)

[Artorius Horus T]

Has snipers and playmakers abilities as an d-man
not bad

I mean, the kid looks like Connor McDavid of the d-men.

 

[Artorius Horus T]

2 goal game. At the CSSHL again, after Circle K Classic
but Edge School suffers a surprise loss to Calgary IHA

15 goals
20 assists
35 points
2.10 ppg

 

[Oak]

Who is better between Dupont and Pelosi?

Pelosi more complete player. Pelosi will back check and just has a more well rounded game. His pass/shoot ratio is a lot closer to 50%. Dupont shoots more, and is a bit more talented in the offensive department but man he can occasionally be brutal when he has to play D.

There are forwards in the central/midwest who are more talented (skilled) than Pelosi in the 09 birth year. Also there are American D who I would take over Dupont when having to choose my first D but I prefer a 2-way dman than an all offense D so take my opinion there with a grain of salt

 

[Artorius Horus T]

Pelosi more complete player. Pelosi will back check and just has a more well rounded game. His pass/shoot ratio is a lot closer to 50%. Dupont shoots more, and is a bit more talented in the offensive department but man he can occasionally be brutal when he has to play D.

There are forwards in the central/midwest who are more talented (skilled) than Pelosi in the 09 birth year. Also there are American D who I would take over Dupont when having to choose my first D but I prefer a 2-way dman than an all offense D so take my opinion there with a grain of salt

Pelosi plays versus u14 age group though, Dupont plays in the u18 age group,
do you see that as an issue?

 

[Oak]

Pelosi plays versus u14 age group though, Dupont plays in the u18 age group,
do you see that as an issue?

I haven't seen Dupont in person since the summer time when he played at World Youth, he was playing against competition one year older there and he struggled defensively on multiple occasions. Other than that I have only watched highlights of his u18 season because the kid will be a star regardless so not worth my scouting time.

You do make a point that playing u18 is more difficult but its apples to oranges when comparing these two kids. Very different situations. Dupont plays for his dad, the team is built around him, and everyone looks to put the puck on his stick. I've seen many other D get looked off by forwards when they were in scoring position but Dupont never does. Kid always gets the pass (and to his credit finishes 90% of the time.) He is also not expected to do much in the dzone and when he makes a big mistake his dad will not sit him. So it's literally the perfect situation to develop an offensive minded D.

Pelosi plays birth year but he doesn't get the same freedom. He is on pp#1 at mount and he gets lots of ice time but if you look at Mounts situation with $$$ when they play weaker teams they roll the lines so Pelosi isn't seeing as much ice time as Dupont. Also they don't put him up against other teams top lines consistently so it's not like he is forced to be a 2way guy. They want him to rack up points when he can. I've never seen him against older competition, but very few 09 players can give him a hard time. He is very talented but a lot of his points come from set plays on the power play that other teams just dont understand so take that as you will. He is top American forward (at his birth year) in the NE in my opinion.

I have to evaluate the game according to what I see and until I see Pelosi play up I dont know if he will continue his 2 way game with kids who are much bigger and stronger but the kid has a nack for adjusting his game. Even when he doesnt put up points he is not invisble. I do think Pelosi would do well on Duponts u18 team if he was given the same rope to make mistakes and not get punished.

 

[Artorius Horus T]

I haven't seen Dupont in person since the summer time when he played at World Youth, he was playing against competition one year older there and he struggled defensively on multiple occasions. Other than that I have only watched highlights of his u18 season because the kid will be a star regardless so not worth my scouting time.

You do make a point that playing u18 is more difficult but its apples to oranges when comparing these two kids. Very different situations. Dupont plays for his dad, the team is built around him, and everyone looks to put the puck on his stick. I've seen many other D get looked off by forwards when they were in scoring position but Dupont never does. Kid always gets the pass (and to his credit finishes 90% of the time.) He is also not expected to do much in the dzone and when he makes a big mistake his dad will not sit him. So it's literally the perfect situation to develop an offensive minded D.

Pelosi plays birth year but he doesn't get the same freedom. He is on pp#1 at mount and he gets lots of ice time but if you look at Mounts situation with $$$ when they play weaker teams they roll the lines so Pelosi isn't seeing as much ice time as Dupont. Also they don't put him up against other teams top lines consistently so it's not like he is forced to be a 2way guy. They want him to rack up points when he can. I've never seen him against older competition, but very few 09 players can give him a hard time. He is very talented but a lot of his points come from set plays on the power play that other teams just dont understand so take that as you will. He is top American forward (at his birth year) in the NE in my opinion.

I have to evaluate the game according to what I see and until I see Pelosi play up I dont know if he will continue his 2 way game with kids who are much bigger and stronger but the kid has a nack for adjusting his game. Even when he doesnt put up points he is not invisble. I do think Pelosi would do well on Duponts u18 team if he was given the same rope to make mistakes and not get punished.

Actually, nobody puts the puck to his blade, he is the one who skates with the puck from d, n, to o zones, he rarely gets support, at least that's how its been in the u18's this season. highlights ive seen from Circle K Classics, pretty much the same thing there as well.

and its not like he is playing with nobodies, but he is just that dominate,
making few top prospects likes of Cruz Pavao, Owen Mastroianni, etc. look
like "nobodies". both of those two have already played in the WHL and they
are both 15, Pavao for example has scored 3 goals in 4 games in the WHL

I think in my opinion, he is better version of both Makar and Hughes,
bigger (taller), stronger and better, in all counts, abilities.

Like i wrote above, D version of Connor McDavid (not as fast skater though)

But time will tell, long way to 2027 and even longer beyond that, when ever he is ready
for pro hockey.

 

[Oak]

Actually, nobody puts the puck to his blade, he is the one who skates with the puck from d, n, to o zones, he rarely gets support, at least that's how its been in the u18's this season. highlights ive seen from Circle K Classics, pretty much the same thing there as well.

The way you're talking it's like he is going coast to coast for every single goal and the team does nothing, but that's not what I have seen. I am going by what I have seen of him in person the last 2 summers and on recent highlight videos.

The fact that you are saying he is a better version of Makar and Hughes is where I will exit this thread. I guess for a moment I forgot I was posting on Hfboards and talking to fanboys instead of people who actually scout for a living with a critical eye for details.

 

[LeProspector]

The way you're talking it's like he is going coast to coast for every single goal and the team does nothing, but that's not what I have seen. I am going by what I have seen of him in person the last 2 summers and on recent highlight videos.

The fact that you are saying he is a better version of Makar and Hughes is where I will exit this thread. I guess for a moment I forgot I was posting on Hfboards and talking to fanboys instead of people who actually scout for a living with a critical eye for details.

Don’t mind him, he takes offence when someone critiques a player he likes.

I think you bring up legit criticisms and have clearly watched him play, unlike that poster.

 

[Mathieukferland]

I guess for a moment I forgot I was posting on Hfboards and talking to fanboys instead of people who actually scout for a living with a critical eye for details.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, he’s interested in the player, there’s no need to denigrate him as a fanboy.

Also there are American D who I would take over Dupont when having to choose my first D but I prefer a 2-way dman than an all offense D so take my opinion there with a grain of salt

That being said I have a friend who scouts for a BCHL franchise and he says Dupont is the best defence prospect he’s ever seen in western Canada (has been doing the job since 2014 so has has seen Makar, Byram, Emery, Guhle, Molendyk, etc) so if you say there at many players better in the region you scout than Dupont, there must be unbelievable 09 defence prospects in central districts

 

[bigdog16]

I haven't seen Dupont in person since the summer time when he played at World Youth, he was playing against competition one year older there and he struggled defensively on multiple occasions. Other than that I have only watched highlights of his u18 season because the kid will be a star regardless so not worth my scouting time.

You do make a point that playing u18 is more difficult but its apples to oranges when comparing these two kids. Very different situations. Dupont plays for his dad, the team is built around him, and everyone looks to put the puck on his stick. I've seen many other D get looked off by forwards when they were in scoring position but Dupont never does. Kid always gets the pass (and to his credit finishes 90% of the time.) He is also not expected to do much in the dzone and when he makes a big mistake his dad will not sit him. So it's literally the perfect situation to develop an offensive minded D.

Pelosi plays birth year but he doesn't get the same freedom. He is on pp#1 at mount and he gets lots of ice time but if you look at Mounts situation with $$$ when they play weaker teams they roll the lines so Pelosi isn't seeing as much ice time as Dupont. Also they don't put him up against other teams top lines consistently so it's not like he is forced to be a 2way guy. They want him to rack up points when he can. I've never seen him against older competition, but very few 09 players can give him a hard time. He is very talented but a lot of his points come from set plays on the power play that other teams just dont understand so take that as you will. He is top American forward (at his birth year) in the NE in my opinion.

I have to evaluate the game according to what I see and until I see Pelosi play up I dont know if he will continue his 2 way game with kids who are much bigger and stronger but the kid has a nack for adjusting his game. Even when he doesnt put up points he is not invisble. I do think Pelosi would do well on Duponts u18 team if he was given the same rope to make mistakes and not get punished.

Would be curious to hear who you have above Pelosi for 09s throughout the whole US. He is head and shoulders above everyone in my opinion.

 

[Artorius Horus T]

3 more assists, 2 points shy of 40 point mark

 

[Oak]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, he’s interested in the player, there’s no need to denigrate him as a fanboy.




That being said I have a friend who scouts for a BCHL franchise and he says Dupont is the best defence prospect he’s ever seen in western Canada (has been doing the job since 2014 so has has seen Makar, Byram, Emery, Guhle, Molendyk, etc) so if you say there at many players better in the region you scout than Dupont, there must be unbelievable 09 defence prospects in central districts

Well fanboy is cute but I thought this was a place to have legit discussions about prospects, not just to swoon over them. It's one thing to swoon but another to argue like your opinion actually matters in the scouting world.

I will never deny Duponts offensive instincts and his terrific shot, but hard to call someone the best defense prospect ever when he is so bad at actually playing defense. Will he be 1OA in the W? Probably, but all you have to do is look up his videos at World Youth last summer, against teams that are only 1 year older than him. Some of the mistakes he made would have him benched the rest of the period by a normal coach.

His games in Nashville that his team flys down for every year, and that I have watched live two summers in a row, I mean the kid can be a detriment to his team in the D zone.

Anyway love the prospect as an offensive D man and because of his age I dont want to be too critical because you never know if he comes on here and reads. He is a special player and I wish him the best.

*Regarding what I said about players I like better in my region. I mentioned that I will always prefer a 2 way D to an offense only D and that is a style preference that will never change for me. Is Dupont more skilled offensively? Yes. But the guys I like put up serious points on great and some on terrible teams while being much better defensively than Dupont.

 

[Oak]

Would be curious to hear who you have above Pelosi for 09s throughout the whole US. He is head and shoulders above everyone in my opinion.

I did not say better I said more skilled. The guys I like are higher ceiling guys if things pan out. Extremely skilled offensive forwards. Pelosi is more of a 2 way center who is skilled, just not very skilled at any specific thing. Like I have mentioned previously a lot of his points come on set plays on the PP which just confuse weaker teams. These type of points are nice but they dont really matter right now in the grand scheme of things.

He is definitely a top 09 F prospect in the east coast at the moment, possibly the top but there are some kids who do certain things better than him, just don't have the total package he does.

 

[bigdog16]

I did not say better I said more skilled. The guys I like are higher ceiling guys if things pan out. Extremely skilled offensive forwards. Pelosi is more of a 2 way center who is skilled, just not very skilled at any specific thing. Like I have mentioned previously a lot of his points come on set plays on the PP which just confuse weaker teams. These type of points are nice but they dont really matter right now in the grand scheme of things.

He is definitely a top 09 F prospect in the east coast at the moment, possibly the top but there are some kids who do certain things better than him, just don't have the total package he does.

Like who? Im pretty familiar with this age group. I am curious to hear who you have over him skill wise.

 

[Oak]

Like who? Im pretty familiar with this age group. I am curious to hear who you have over him skill wise.

We can take it to DM if you want my opinions on 2009s. I'm just not a fan of putting kids names out this early because some of them might come here to read. I like to give honest critical opinions so you don't know how it might effect them.

 

[landy92mack29]

He didn't look that bad(but not amazing) defensively at the circle k but that's the modern dman now. Guys like Makar, Hughes, Fox, etc are never going to be your shutdown guys. He's also 14, his skillset and how it will translate to the next level is what you're looking for.

 

[Oak]

He didn't look that bad(but not amazing) defensively at the circle k but that's the modern dman now. Guys like Makar, Hughes, Fox, etc are never going to be your shutdown guys. He's also 14, his skillset and how it will translate to the next level is what you're looking for.

No, that's the modern offense only dman. There are plenty of 2 way D who can play both sides of the ice. They just dont get hyped as much because sometimes they are forced to stay back so their point totals get hurt.

I agree with everything else you said about Dupont and I'd like to exit this thread already because Dupont will be a star regardless of my critiques or opinions. I joined bc of the comparison to a local forward that I watch.

Also Makar is not the same as Hughes and Fox. Makar does way more work in his own end. Makar is a unicorn and the only true generational defenseman in my opinion. Anyway good luck to all and good luck to Dupont as he makes his way through this crazy hockey journey.

 

[MrCreamm]

No, that's the modern offense only dman. There are plenty of 2 way D who can play both sides of the ice. They just dont get hyped as much because sometimes they are forced to stay back so their point totals get hurt.

I agree with everything else you said about Dupont and I'd like to exit this thread already because Dupont will be a star regardless of my critiques or opinions. I joined bc of the comparison to a local forward that I watch.

Also Makar is not the same as Hughes and Fox. Makar does way more work in his own end. Makar is a unicorn and the only true generational defenseman in my opinion. Anyway good luck to all and good luck to Dupont as he makes his way through this crazy hockey journey.

Agree on Makar, I think you can take Makar if you wanna shut down any player in the league, he's the only player I would trust back defending McDavid 1v1 and be confident most of the time he can stop him. Makar cemented himself as the greatest 2-way D-man currently in the league, when I watched him play vs McDavid and Draisaitl in the 2022 playoffs. In my mind Hughes, Fox, and whoever else you wanna put in that upper echelon they are the best franchise tier guys.

Makar in my opinion is generational, or is at the very least, the only dman in the league you can make the argument for. And what I think makes that argument plausible is that the impact of how he plays the game will forever change the game, his edges are maybe the best in the league, and the way he controls play is like a center. The only other player I can think that has had as big as an influence as a dman is EK65 but even then Makar's edges, skating, and ridiculous shot seem to be on another level, and I watched prime Karlsson. It'll be interesting to see the defenseman that come up within the next 5-10 years or however long it takes for a players style to influence the youth.

Just like McDavid, Crosby, Ovechkin, and even Matthews release changed the game in their stylistic approach and new way of attacking, I think Makar is similar to being such a great innovator.

Anyway, I hope Landon Dupont can end up being the next dman who changes the game forever, but that's not a sure thing. I mean Dahlin, as good as he is, he was probably the next dman after EK to be projected to change the game during 2018 hype, but then Makar came along.

 

[FWF]

Just a play I clipped from work a few days ago. Didn't score, but it's these plays that demonstrate how seamless his game is... just magnificent.

I can keep doing this if people are interested. My job consists around making sure stuff like this gets seen/used for future projects anyways.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

He didn't look that bad(but not amazing) defensively at the circle k but that's the modern dman now. Guys like Makar, Hughes, Fox, etc are never going to be your shutdown guys. He's also 14, his skillset and how it will translate to the next level is what you're looking for.

I get your point, but Fox has always been one of the best defensive defenseman in the NHL.

 

[Artorius Horus T]

40 point mark done, still 2.00 ppg

 

[Artorius Horus T]

2 goals and a 10 min penalty. 4-2 W

 

[YYC Dad]

My son played against him (son is a 2009 goalie - called up a few times via Crash Gym). LD, a 09, was, on ice with 2008's Alberta Cup kids (best in Alberta), and a few 07s, and 09s. He was/is incredible. Yes, he likely will be the #1 WHL draft this year. He's -2yrs, and as good or better. But what do I know. I'm a nobody, that was seriously impressed. Look at the CSSHL games. If I were a WHL scout, the main trouble is who is 3,4,5?

I have a old kids coach, who played pro for a year or two in England. He said McD is the only skater he has seen, who skates like him.

 

[Artorius Horus T]

3 more assists

46 points in 23 games, 2.00 ppg

 

[Artorius Horus T]

2 more points

Last season (U15 Prep) : 15+32=47 (1.75 ppg)
This season (U18 Prep : 17+31=48 (2.00 ppg)

Edge top 3 in points

DuPont 48
Pavao 27 (4 games in the WHL this season at 15, 3 goals)
Cooper 26 (2 games in the AJHL at 15)