RD Brock Faber (2020, 45th, LAK, traded to MIN)

[Orca Smash]

Is there any chance he takes over the top PP? The bit i seen of him he looks fantastic.

 

[BuiumSaveUs]

Is there any chance he takes over the top PP? The bit i seen of him he looks fantastic.

Probably not anytime soon but long term yeah. They’re already playing him top pair, top pk minutes. Don’t want to overwhelm him

 

[Fantomas]

Is there any chance he takes over the top PP? The bit i seen of him he looks fantastic.

I don't think Faber is a PP1 guy, even though he's a minutes muncher. But I can see him doing everything else and playing some PP2 some day.

I could be wrong of course. Some guys have hidden gifts that aren't immediately apparent.

 

[Obvious Fabertism]

I don't think Faber is a PP1 guy, even though he's a minutes muncher. But I can see him doing everything else and playing some PP2 some day.

I could be wrong of course. Some guys have hidden gifts that aren't immediately apparent.

I suppose it depends on what you are looking for out of your PP1 D man. He has a skill set that would likely work quite well as a facilitator, good as the lone man back, passes and moves the puck quickly and accurately, good at zone entries, gets his shot off quickly, and sneaky good vision for cross ice plays. Suter ran the Wild PP for the better part of a decade with a not dissimilar skill set.

So far this season, you could argue he has been a little overly aggressive offensively, it has cost the Wild on the scoreboard a few times when he jumps up for offense and his teammates turn it over with nobody home. Now I personally believe most of those were right play for him to make and you have to have trust in your teammates, but I think he has really shifted to add the offensive element to his game, if there is a learning curve for him in this league, that is definitely it.

On the whole, absolutely love this player, so good all over the ice. I thought he had two of the best plays of the game against Philly, neither one got him a point.

He had a brilliant play in the defensive corner on a puck retrieval where he managed to outplay 3 Flyers that had forecheck positioning on him. Body position bounced the first guy while protecting the puck with his skate, fooled the other two into thinking he was going behind the net, reversed it quickly up the boards at quad height directly past them all and straight to Hartman's stick for a clean odd man rush out of the defensive zone.

Then he had the third assist on this play, which just has this little hesitation move that he's used a few times in this league to just casually feed guys in full stride into the O zone, subtle thing of beauty that shows how he exploits his opponents:

 

[BuiumSaveUs]

I don't think Faber is a PP1 guy, even though he's a minutes muncher. But I can see him doing everything else and playing some PP2 some day.

I could be wrong of course. Some guys have hidden gifts that aren't immediately apparent.

I tend to agree with you on this but there’s more offense to his game than I thought. He’s miles ahead of a guy like Brodin offensively already, imo

 

[SettlementRichie10]

Blake held on to Walker, Durzi, and Roy to really make sure he knew what he had. And he trades Faber before the kid even played a game.

Everyone outside of a small group of LA fans has no idea how bad of a GM Rob Blake has been.

 

[Kalv]

As a Ducks fan I was really happy that LA traded Faber, lol

 

[BuiumSaveUs]

https://x.com/jfreshhockey/status/1724853530735837562?s=46&t=EA5Zx4v_RgCObXBmjJezZg

 

[mphmiles]

Can’t be overstated how rare/impressive it is to play big minutes on a top pairing and excel immediately as a u21 defender.

At this point he goes top 5 in a redraft.

 

[Trash Panda]

Lots of Kings fans like acting as if the trade was beneficial for both the Kings and the Wild, but this is gonna become more and more lopsided as time goes on.

Faber AND a first for Fiala tastes like shit.

 

[BuiumSaveUs]

Can’t be overstated how rare/impressive it is to play big minutes on a top pairing and excel immediately as a u21 defender.

At this point he goes top 5 in a redraft.

Seems aggressive. Top 10-12 tho

Lots of Kings fans like acting as if the trade was beneficial for both the Kings and the Wild, but this is gonna become more and more lopsided as time goes on.

Faber AND a first for Fiala tastes like shit.

I don’t agree with that. Fiala is a special player and a treat to watch. He matched up with their contention window a bit better as well. I think it was a good deal for both sides. It’s not like LA is hurting in their right side.

 

[mphmiles]

Seems aggressive. Top 10-12 tho

Nah, a good top pairing, minutes eating, 2 way defenseman is borderline top 5 in almost any draft. To be that at 21 is a guarantee.

 

[BuiumSaveUs]

Nah, a good top pairing, minutes eating, 2 way defenseman is borderline top 5 in almost any draft. To be that at 21 is a guarantee.

Yeah I’d take Stutzle, Byfield, Sanderson, Jarvis over him. Drysdale, Quinn, Rossi, Perfetti, Lundell would be interesting conversations.

 

[57special]

It would be bizarre if he ran a NHL PP, let alone a #1 PP, as he rarely played on the PP in college.

He has been very good for a rookie, and I do see some similarities to MacAvoy, but he's not there yet. He does make mistakes, like you'd expect from a rookie, but chances are he will be a really solid top 3 D at a minimum. It is nice to see that his skating is more than good enough, as is his physicality. it does help that his partner is one of of, if not the best, defensive Dmen in the league.

Fiala was an excellent 1st line player in Minnesota, even though they did their level best to bury by playing him with the likes of Victor Rask, and Tyson Jost. He has the ability to break a game open, which is a rare quality.

I'd say both teams made out well in the trade. LAK's window is now, especially if their young players like Byfield, Clarke, Kaliyev develop as hoped, and PLD settles in. Fiala fits that window perfectly, and his deal will start to look vg in a couple of years time when the cap goes up significantly.

MN's window is not for a couple of years at least till they get out of cap hell. Faber, and Ohgren/Yurov, fit that window better.

 

[Obvious Fabertism]

Yeah I’d take Stutzle, Byfield, Sanderson, Jarvis over him. Drysdale, Quinn, Rossi, Perfetti, Lundell would be interesting conversations.

Hmm, seeing that list, I’ll admit to being a likely homer, but he would be in my top 5 as well. At least in terms of most interesting prospects. And with that I have a new name and avatar.

 

[BuiumSaveUs]

Hmm, seeing that list, I’ll admit to being a likely homer, but he would be in my top 5 as well. At least in terms of most interesting prospects. And with that I have a new name and avatar.

You can only keep him or Rossi who are you choosing?

 

[Obvious Fabertism]

You can only keep him or Rossi who are you choosing?

Faber. And thus an epic rivalry was born.

 

[57special]

You can only keep him or Rossi who are you choosing?

I'm abstaining.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Needs to improve a lot on the PK, but so does the whole f***ing team.

I like Faber a lot, but I'd probably still undue the trade. If we took somebody else at #19, the conversation might change a bit.

 

[FrodoBeggins]

Нужно значительно улучшить ПК, как и вся чертова команда.

Мне очень нравится Фабер, но я, вероятно, все равно не оправдал бы эту сделку. Если бы мы взяли кого-нибудь другого в №19, разговор мог бы немного измениться.

And who should we take instead of Oghren? Who is so much better that you can say so confidently? Instead of Haight, one could take Poitras or Hutson. But with the Swede I have no such confidence.

 

[Frolov 6'3]

当以谁代奥格伦? 孰愈于汝,汝可自信如此。 人可择柏翠丝哈特森,非海特也。 然于瑞典人,吾无信焉。

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Declan Mcdonnell comes to mind.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

And who should we take instead of Oghren? Who is so much better that you can say so confidently? Instead of Haight, one could take Poitras or Hutson. But with the Swede I have no such confidence.

I'm not confidently saying that anybody is better. I think that anybody taken at that spot is probably going to end up as a "complimentary" player. Just that there are others that I would prefer: Kulich (position) and Snuggerud (skillset).

 

[BuiumSaveUs]

Needs to improve a lot on the PK, but so does the whole f***ing team.

I like Faber a lot, but I'd probably still undue the trade. If we took somebody else at #19, the conversation might change a bit.

*Cough* Snuggerud *Cough*

 

[FrodoBeggins]

*Cough* Snuggerud *Cough*

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

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