RD Bode Wilde (2018, 41st, NYI)

[lidstromiscool]

Where would he go in the 2017 draft? Seems like a lot of D prospects in this draft would be the top pick of last years draft

 

[Leopain]

Not a lot of talk about this guy, for a top 10-20 prospect heading into the draft.

Posters have said before that he was more of an offensive minded D, yet a lot of reports view him as a 2-way D. Has his defensive play improved over the last months? Anyone seen him recently?

Because judging by some reports he could be a hell of a defenseman with size, skating and 2-way play...

 

[Whalers Fan]

His defensive play is still a weakness, IMO. He makes a lot of poor decisions and gets himself out of position. He needs a lot of work in this area.

 

[Lays]

From what I’ve seen he lacks hockey IQ. He has all the tools to be a good dman but who knows if he can put it together. Has great size and a booming shot but his offensive and defensive play are okay but nothing special. A while back I’d have him around 15 ish but as of right now he’s dropping to mid to late 20s for me

 

[Juxtaposer]

Wilde had a fantastic game today. Definitely there are defensive issues and sometimes he looks a little clumsy, but this guy is a potential star. The real definition of a boom-bust prospect. Could be a star #1D, could flame out of hockey. I honestly have no idea. But his game today was excellent.

 

[AmericanDream]

for those that remember this name - Jeff Jillson

Bode Wilde reminds me a lot of Jillson - so much potential and all the skill, but the hamster wheel between the ears just couldn't keep up like it should have.

Wilde could be a star or a flop, that is why he seems to safely ranked outside the top 15 on most lists.

 

[Whalers Fan]

Wilde had a fantastic game today. Definitely there are defensive issues and sometimes he looks a little clumsy, but this guy is a potential star. The real definition of a boom-bust prospect. Could be a star #1D, could flame out of hockey. I honestly have no idea. But his game today was excellent.

He had some defensive miscues in the game tonight, too, but was bailed out by his goaltender Drew DeRidder. The offensive talent is there, but he's a big liability on defense. Definitely a boom/bust prospect.

 

[Juxtaposer]

He had some defensive miscues in the game tonight, too, but was bailed out by his goaltender Drew DeRidder. The offensive talent is there, but he's a big liability on defense. Definitely a boom/bust prospect.

He had a couple miscues, but he more than made up for it offensively. I wouldn't call him a liability, but defense isn't his strength.

I'm trying to decide who I like the most out of Wilde, K'Andre Miller, and Mattias Samuelsson. I'm leaning towards Miller>Wilde>Samuelsson but I could see an argument for any of them. I think all of them should go between 15-25ish.

 

[seafoam]

Granted I haven't seen him much, but I think with natural maturity and progression, there is an NHL player there.

He'll need to be in a more structured system to cover for his defense lapses (if you want to call them that), but every NHL team should in my opinion have a D or two that can play like a forward in the offensive zone. The position is evolving and having talent back there to the likes of a forward goes a long way for NHL offenses these days.

He does subtle things in the offensive zone that I see translating to the NHL, like knowing how to get shots though attacking unoccupied space.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

He had a couple miscues, but he more than made up for it offensively. I wouldn't call him a liability, but defense isn't his strength.

I'm trying to decide who I like the most out of Wilde, K'Andre Miller, and Mattias Samuelsson. I'm leaning towards Miller>Wilde>Samuelsson but I could see an argument for any of them. I think all of them should go between 15-25ish.

I think his defense is a liability, but he's 6'2, 195. I think teams would be drafting him hoping he could turn into a good defensive player.

I would say that the order I have those three in is Wilde, Samuelsson, Miller for draft rankings. If its who's the best now, Samuelsson, Wilde, Miller. I would add Emberson into this discussion, as well, he goes pretty underrated. I'd probably have him fourth in draft rankings, but I'd have him at least 3rd in current play, and maybe 2nd.

Samuelsson is so solid defensively. Gives up nearly nothing, and there's some offense there. I don't think there's a defenseman in this draft who defends better than him, besides Dahlin. After that, its mostly potential with Wilde and Miller. I think Wilde has a better shot and is more skilled, although Miller has some skill, as well. I also think he might be further along in his development than Miller.

 

[Juxtaposer]

I think his defense is a liability, but he's 6'2, 195. I think teams would be drafting him hoping he could turn into a good defensive player.

I would say that the order I have those three in is Wilde, Samuelsson, Miller for draft rankings. If its who's the best now, Samuelsson, Wilde, Miller. I would add Emberson into this discussion, as well, he goes pretty underrated. I'd probably have him fourth in draft rankings, but I'd have him at least 3rd in current play, and maybe 2nd.

Samuelsson is so solid defensively. Gives up nearly nothing, and there's some offense there. I don't think there's a defenseman in this draft who defends better than him, besides Dahlin. After that, its mostly potential with Wilde and Miller. I think Wilde has a better shot and is more skilled, although Miller has some skill, as well. I also think he might be further along in his development than Miller.

Samuelsson is the best right now, arguably, but I’m not so sure what his upside is. I’m not convinced he has legit top-pairing potential. I think the other two do, even if they’re more risky. I personally prefer guys with upside rather than “safe” guys.

 

[Mrb1p]

Wilde is not a defensive liability nor does he have "low iq" . He's a full on risk-taker, he's going to get burned at times, he's going to make mistakes. I love this guy, he's always so active, so involved and he's the center of the play on most nights.

He's a low IQ player and a defensive liability if youre willing to say Burns, Subban, Karlsson and co are too.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Samuelsson is the best right now, arguably, but I’m not so sure what his upside is. I’m not convinced he has legit top-pairing potential. I think the other two do, even if they’re more risky. I personally prefer guys with upside rather than “safe” guys.

Samuelsson reminds me of Mattias Ekholm who's a top pairing D. He's not going to dangle a whole team, but I could see him scoring like 30 points per season at his peak.

 

[LickTheEnvelope]

Wilde is not a defensive liability nor does he have "low iq" . He's a full on risk-taker, he's going to get burned at times, he's going to make mistakes. I love this guy, he's always so active, so involved and he's the center of the play on most nights.

He's a low IQ player and a defensive liability if youre willing to say Burns, Subban, Karlsson and co are too.

So Wilde is like a poor man's Jovanovski?

 

[Goldenhands]

I would pick Miller over M.Samuelsson and Wilde without any hesitation, that kid is the best all around defenseman of the 3 by a good margin and has some untapped offensive potential, I see Miller as a very solid 2nd pairing defenseman who does everything well, it will be interesting to see how his offensive game evolve since he is a former foward that was converted in defenseman about 3 years ago, its crazy to think how solid and composed he already is when you think about it.. Wilde is more purely skilled offensively but makes some real dumb plays every games, I think his IQ is definitely in question here and I think he isnt dominant enough offensively to make up for his dumb moments.. I see a kid with high bust potential, thats why I have Miller over him on my list.. Mathias Samuelsson has a little bit more offense to his game than Miller right now, but Miller is much more composed and better defensively.. In Matthias I see a guy who might not be good enough offensively to be an offensive player at the next level and a guy who might not be good enough defensively to be relied on..

Miller
Wilde
Samuelsson

 

[Whalers Fan]

I would pick Miller over M.Samuelsson and Wilde without any hesitation, that kid is the best all around defenseman of the 3 by a good margin and has some untapped offensive potential, I see Miller as a very solid 2nd pairing defenseman who does everything well, it will be interesting to see how his offensive game evolve since he is a former foward that was converted in defenseman about 3 years ago, its crazy to think how solid and composed he already is when you think about it.. Wilde is more purely skilled offensively but makes some real dumb plays every games, I think his IQ is definitely in question here and I think he isnt dominant enough offensively to make up for his dumb moments.. I see a kid with high bust potential, thats why I have Miller over him on my list.. Mathias Samuelsson has a little bit more offense to his game than Miller right now, but Miller is much more composed and better defensively.. In Matthias I see a guy who might not be good enough offensively to be an offensive player at the next level and a guy who might not be good enough defensively to be relied on..

Miller
Wilde
Samuelsson

I see some serious technical flaws in Miller's game that are concerning. He struggles to cover his opponent when skating backwards, looking like exactly what he is -- a former forward trying to learn a new position. Whether he can develop this skill well enough for the NHL remains to be seen.

When Wilde and Miller get paired together -- which is way too often for my liking -- things fall apart defensively way too often. This U18 team gives up more breakaways and odd-man rushes than I can ever remember seeing from a talented major junior team.

I tend to agree with the ranking of @Pavel Buchnevich -- Wilde, Samuelsson, Miller -- with Wilde getting the nod because he has the best chance of being a #1 pairing NHL defenseman due to his offensive talent. Samuelsson, though, is the safest pick IMO. Although he probably will never be a #1 pairing D, I think he will be a solid defenseman in the NHL. Miller is the biggest gamble as he still tries to learn a new position.

 

[TakeTheBody]

The US Team is okay. But man, i miss the Whalers. Off topic, apologies......

 

[Whalers Fan]

The US Team is okay. But man, i miss the Whalers. Off topic, apologies......

As a former season ticket holder, I miss them, too. I am just grateful that Pete Karmanos sold the arena to USA Hockey instead of a developer who would have bulldozed the building to make room for another commercial development that this area doesn't need.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

I would pick Miller over M.Samuelsson and Wilde without any hesitation, that kid is the best all around defenseman of the 3 by a good margin and has some untapped offensive potential, I see Miller as a very solid 2nd pairing defenseman who does everything well, it will be interesting to see how his offensive game evolve since he is a former foward that was converted in defenseman about 3 years ago, its crazy to think how solid and composed he already is when you think about it.. Wilde is more purely skilled offensively but makes some real dumb plays every games, I think his IQ is definitely in question here and I think he isnt dominant enough offensively to make up for his dumb moments.. I see a kid with high bust potential, thats why I have Miller over him on my list.. Mathias Samuelsson has a little bit more offense to his game than Miller right now, but Miller is much more composed and better defensively.. In Matthias I see a guy who might not be good enough offensively to be an offensive player at the next level and a guy who might not be good enough defensively to be relied on..

Miller
Wilde
Samuelsson

I'm baffled how you've decided Miller is the best of the three defensively. I think he's the worst of the three defensively right now.

 

[NotProkofievian]

Another vote for ordering them Wilde, M. Samuelsson, Miller.

 

[Lays]

Gives a Risto vibe for me if he hits his full potential. A good offensive dman with size and physicality which makes everyone think he’s good defensively

 

[sharknado]

His defensive play is still a weakness, IMO. He makes a lot of poor decisions and gets himself out of position. He needs a lot of work in this area.

I agree. I have seen him ever since his mother sent him to the states at about 13. From then till a few months ago, I didn't see much improvement in his decision making and reading the play. After 5 years, I was hoping to see him improve in these 2 areas but sadly he hasn't. Hopefully he can improve on those 2 areas.

 

[Goldenhands]

I'm baffled how you've decided Miller is the best of the three defensively. I think he's the worst of the three defensively right now.

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Apparently Im not the only one who liked Miller that much.. Having Samuelsson over Miller at this point is laughable IMO, the first thing I look at when evaluating a defenseman is how he handles himself in tight or under pressure and Samuelsson gets beat too many times.. Against Russia he got schooled twice by Svechnikov, was directly responsable of the 2nd and 3rd goal and had some other painful moments..

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

This player is a 6'2 200 RH shot defenseman.

 

[truthbluth]

This player is a 6'2 200 RH shot defenseman.

Ceci and Del Zotto used to do that kind of thing. Can he play d?