RD Bode Wilde (2018, 41st, NYI)

[UsernameWasTaken]

welcome to the USNDP Mr. Wilde!

Confirmed by Bobby Mac.

I was really shocked by this - a couple of months ago, I saw him as a OHL/NTDP flake who would conveniently get drafted by one of the OHL power houses and then report. When I heard he said he'd report to Guelph, I figured it was because he'd be happy to go 1OA. But I really didn't guess he'd go NTDP.

Good for him for doing that - he'll be in a great program and part of what looks like a fantastic '00 birth year for USA Hockey.

great news for US hockey

Wilde's commitment aside, '00 looks great for USA Hockey. Next year's U17 NTDP team should be impressive...I can't speak to the Euro teams - but at first glance the US crowd looks better than the Cdn players of this vintage. Also, if Wilde plays up @ the '17 IIHF U18, then that should have him locked him, no? (if there were any doubts).

 

[Juxtaposer]

I was really shocked by this - a couple of months ago, I saw him as a OHL/NTDP flake who would conveniently get drafted by one of the OHL power houses and then report. When I heard he said he'd report to Guelph, I figured it was because he'd be happy to go 1OA. But I really didn't guess he'd go NTDP.

Good for him for doing that - he'll be in a great program and part of what looks like a fantastic '00 birth year for USA Hockey.



Wilde's commitment aside, '00 looks great for USA Hockey. Next year's U17 NTDP team should be impressive...I can't speak to the Euro teams - but at first glance the US crowd looks better than the Cdn players of this vintage. Also, if Wilde plays up @ the '17 IIHF U18, then that should have him locked him, no? (if there were any doubts).

Yeah, if he plays in the U18, he'd be locked in.

Has any duel citizen ever played for the USNTDP and then chosen their other country? That would be extremely odd, wouldn't it?

 

[93LEAFS]

I was really shocked by this - a couple of months ago, I saw him as a OHL/NTDP flake who would conveniently get drafted by one of the OHL power houses and then report. When I heard he said he'd report to Guelph, I figured it was because he'd be happy to go 1OA. But I really didn't guess he'd go NTDP.

Good for him for doing that - he'll be in a great program and part of what looks like a fantastic '00 birth year for USA Hockey.



Wilde's commitment aside, '00 looks great for USA Hockey. Next year's U17 NTDP team should be impressive...I can't speak to the Euro teams - but at first glance the US crowd looks better than the Cdn players of this vintage. Also, if Wilde plays up @ the '17 IIHF U18, then that should have him locked him, no? (if there were any doubts).

Seems USNDP is getting good at keeping there own, while they have always been good with WHL and Q reasons they are doing better with the OHL guys, whose the last top guy they lost who didn't play atleast some of the year with U-17's? Logan Brown and Chychrun, both son's of Canadians with duel citizenship. Max Jones and Kirwin? Last top American talents I can think of who completely avoided USNDP in favor of the CHL are Bogosian and Ryan. If he's as good as rumored then the Werenski/Hanifin plan could be in play, if not Trouba/EJ or even Seth Jones/Cam Fowler route are not bad ones to follow.

 

[L13]

He seems/seemed super excited about his Harvard commitment on Twitter, so I was surprised to see so many people speculate about him going to the OHL. This move makes total sense to me.

 

[93LEAFS]

He seems/seemed super excited about his Harvard commitment on Twitter, so I was surprised to see so many people speculate about him going to the OHL. This move makes total sense to me.

Harvard tends to have trouble keeping high-end recruits, such as Gauthier and Bracco. But I'm not surprised at all to see him going the USNDP route, they have a great track record with d recently, I will be surprised if he attends a class at Harvard, even if he does go the NCAA route.

 

[L13]

Harvard tends to have trouble keeping high-end recruits, such as Gauthier and Bracco. But I'm not surprised at all to see him going the USNDP route, they have a great track record with d recently, I will be surprised if he attends a class at Harvard, even if he does go the NCAA route.

Yeah, it's a long way off for sure. I don't have a source for this, but I'm curious whether Harvard's admission standards also play a part in their poor retention record. Their athletic departments find it much more difficult (in fact almost impossible) to ensure admission for students who don't have a high GPA/SAT than coaches at places like BC, NoDak, etc. And then there's the fact it doesn't offer scholarships.

Let's see how he does in the USNDP first.

 

[93LEAFS]

Yeah, it's a long way off for sure. I don't have a source for this, but I'm curious whether Harvard's admission standards also play a part in their poor retention record. Their athletic departments find it much more difficult (in fact almost impossible) to ensure admission for students who don't have a high GPA/SAT than coaches at places like BC, NoDak, etc. And then there's the fact it doesn't offer scholarships.

Let's see how he does in the USNDP first.

My guess is those are two big reasons (lack of full rides and grade requirements), I'm sure they have or could build world class facilities and obviously the institution is the gold standard. I don't follow NCAA hockey too closely, but the conf they play-in strength may also hurt, I know that is a big factor in other sports. On a slightly unrelated note Harvard basketball signed 3 espn top 100 recruits. Pretty sure its well known that North Dakota's admission standards are a joke, its like what Boise is to football. Most Hockey programs (even the state schools) have high standards Michigan, Wisc, Minn, BU, off the top of my head.

Edit: signed was the wrong term, all are committed, don't think you sign an NOI if your aren't getting a full scholarship.

 

[UsernameWasTaken]

Yeah, if he plays in the U18, he'd be locked in.

Has any duel citizen ever played for the USNTDP and then chosen their other country? That would be extremely odd, wouldn't it?

No one I can think of offhand.

 

[CRRhockey]

The only way that a dual could not play for the US and opt for their other country is if they do not play in the Would U18 tournament. Since the NTDP makes no guarantees about being on that roster and the current 18 team has about 7 duals on it, if they send one or more kids down, we could see these kids opting out of the US in the future.

 

[93LEAFS]

The only way that a dual could not play for the US and opt for their other country is if they do not play in the Would U18 tournament. Since the NTDP makes no guarantees about being on that roster and the current 18 team has about 7 duals on it, if they send one or more kids down, we could see these kids opting out of the US in the future.

Possibly, but didn't the Youth Olympics lock alot of kids in (Wahlstrom specifically), I'd assume most of those kids got invites.

 

[AmericanDream]

Yeah, if he plays in the U18, he'd be locked in.

Has any duel citizen ever played for the USNTDP and then chosen their other country? That would be extremely odd, wouldn't it?

not sure only name I remember was Tyler Myers playing for team USA at the Hlinka I believe then jumping ship next year to play for Canada...but nothing when it comes to USNDP...Bonney usually has a better memory he might know of one.

 

[UsernameWasTaken]

Possibly, but didn't the Youth Olympics lock alot of kids in (Wahlstrom specifically), I'd assume most of those kids got invites.

Wahlstrom's only ever been eligible to compete for the US.

 

[93LEAFS]

Wahlstrom's only ever been eligible to compete for the US.

I know, there was talk he was going to try to get Swedish eligibility through either a waiver or going over to an academy (pretty sure that is how the Nylander's got eligibility after playing most of their lives in the States, but the rule change was recent).

 

[dwanmaster*]

The only way that a dual could not play for the US and opt for their other country is if they do not play in the Would U18 tournament. Since the NTDP makes no guarantees about being on that roster and the current 18 team has about 7 duals on it, if they send one or more kids down, we could see these kids opting out of the US in the future.

If they can't make the U-18 team as an 17-18 year old I doubt they'd be on many other international rosters for the US or Canada // Sweden anyways

 

[canuck2010]

I know, there was talk he was going to try to get Swedish eligibility through either a waiver or going over to an academy (pretty sure that is how the Nylander's got eligibility after playing most of their lives in the States, but the rule change was recent).

Remember one was born in Canada lol.

 

[canuck2010]

Curious about Wilde. What is his personal history and why does he consider himself American? I believe he was born in Canada and played some minor hockey here including a summer camp sponsored by the Habs.

 

[UsernameWasTaken]

I know, there was talk he was going to try to get Swedish eligibility through either a waiver or going over to an academy (pretty sure that is how the Nylander's got eligibility after playing most of their lives in the States, but the rule change was recent).

Nylander got his eligibility because at the time he applied for a waiver he didn't fit the requirements of any country for the purposes of international competition (he was born in Canada, but didn't play hockey here; he had played in the US, but wasn't an American citizen; and although he was playing in the Swedish system hadn't yet accumulated the two seasons necessary to qualify). So they said in the circumstances he could play for Sweden.

 

[93LEAFS]

Remember one was born in Canada lol.

Yep, why do we always end up on the wrong side of NHL players kids being born in a different country. Have we gained one player yet? Granted, it would be weird if Nylander played for us.

On to the actual topic at hand, to people who follow the American youth level hockey where does he rank in regards to more recent youth at that level such as Chychrun, Day, Werenski, Hanifin, Jones, EJ, Jack Johnson and Trouba, and what's his upside?

 

[wings5]

I was really shocked by this - a couple of months ago, I saw him as a OHL/NTDP flake who would conveniently get drafted by one of the OHL power houses and then report. When I heard he said he'd report to Guelph, I figured it was because he'd be happy to go 1OA. But I really didn't guess he'd go NTDP.

Good for him for doing that - he'll be in a great program and part of what looks like a fantastic '00 birth year for USA Hockey.



Wilde's commitment aside, '00 looks great for USA Hockey. Next year's U17 NTDP team should be impressive...I can't speak to the Euro teams - but at first glance the US crowd looks better than the Cdn players of this vintage. Also, if Wilde plays up @ the '17 IIHF U18, then that should have him locked him, no? (if there were any doubts).

The birth year is good forsure but in Canada there are ton of players playing under the radar, in lesser leagues or who havn't hit that growth spurt who usually end up coming out of nowhere to become top prospects ( Weber, Pearson, Johanson, Jankowski ). So good chance some unknown player moves into the top tier within the next few years they're still young. If a kid has passion and tiredless work ethic they can develop alot and since hockey is the number 1 sport alot of nobody kids can practise like crazy and become elite. Hardwork beats talent if talent doesn't work hard.

Anyways the US has a great 00 age group and should be an exciting battle between the two countries. Interested in seeing what this group of players can do in the USHL.

 

[Juxtaposer]

Yep, why do we always end up on the wrong side of NHL players kids being born in a different country. Have we gained one player yet? Granted, it would be weird if Nylander played for us.

On to the actual topic at hand, to people who follow the American youth level hockey where does he rank in regards to more recent youth at that level such as Chychrun, Day, Werenski, Hanifin, Jones, EJ, Jack Johnson and Trouba, and what's his upside?

I haven't seen him play (I wad extremely bummed he didn't play at the YOG), but from what I've heard he's a Hanifin/Jones/Chychrun type of talent. Big, great skater, great on both sides of the puck.

You guys got Chychrun based solely on the fact that the USHL wouldn't let him play as a 15 year old, so right now I wouldn't complain.

Anyway, a future D-corps of Jones, Hanifin, Trouba, and Wilde sounds excellent.

 

[AD1066]

I haven't seen him play (I wad extremely bummed he didn't play at the YOG), but from what I've heard he's a Hanifin/Jones/Chychrun type of talent. Big, great skater, great on both sides of the puck.

You guys got Chychrun based solely on the fact that the USHL wouldn't let him play as a 15 year old, so right now I wouldn't complain.

Anyway, a future D-corps of Jones, Hanifin, Trouba, and Wilde sounds excellent.

Gostisbehere too, only 22 years old.

 

[93LEAFS]

I haven't seen him play (I wad extremely bummed he didn't play at the YOG), but from what I've heard he's a Hanifin/Jones/Chychrun type of talent. Big, great skater, great on both sides of the puck.

You guys got Chychrun based solely on the fact that the USHL wouldn't let him play as a 15 year old, so right now I wouldn't complain.

Anyway, a future D-corps of Jones, Hanifin, Trouba, and Wilde sounds excellent.

You got a 700 goal scorer, it'll take a lot of Chychrun's to make up for that

And we haven't got him yet.

 

[habsrule4eva3089]

Is this kid going to challenge Svechnikov for first overall?

 

[93LEAFS]

Is this kid going to challenge Svechnikov for first overall?

Maybe, rare for a guy to go first out of USNDP (only one is Johnson). Maybe he accelerates like Hanifin or Werenski, if he is that good. But I'd say Veleno is probably Svechnikov's main challenger.

 

[Juxtaposer]

Maybe, rare for a guy to go first out of USNDP (only one is Johnson). Maybe he accelerates like Hanifin or Werenski, if he is that good. But I'd say Veleno is probably Svechnikov's main challenger.

Don't forget Jake Wise.

And I'm not sure any of us have seen enough of the players to actually make a real list right now. Personally, I just have a list of guys who are all in the mix: Svechnikov, Ryan Merkley, Jared McIsaac, Joe Veleno, Jake Wise, Bode Wilde, Oliver Wahlstrom, TJ Walsh, Benoît-Olivier Groulx, David Levin, etc. and then some other Euros I don't know enough about to put in this tier or not.