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RD Bode Wilde (2018, 41st, NYI)

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FlyguyOX said:
I problem is he was allowed to get away with his crap in the CHL. Shifts way too long, cheating, etc
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Some CHL programs dont set up players well with the structure they have
You see quite a few teams with 1 unit PP and they stay out the entire 2 minutes period, and are just gassed.
I can see players struggling and not adapting with line changes coming out of the CHL.
 
It's not a great look but the hand-cuffs that are the NHL's agreement with the CHL make it hard to determine how bad it is. Development isn't always a linear path, hopefully he returns with another gear in pro hockey next season
 
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FlyguyOX said:
Sent down to Saginaw. Yikes.
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why yikes? He just turned 20 two weeks ago and he missed all of training camp and the first half of the season with a high ankle injury. The soundtigers don’t look like they’re going to make the playoffs. Why not let him go back to Saginaw so he can play out the rest of the year and hopefully go on a playoff run. I’m pretty sure if he didn’t miss training camp and have that injury things would be different for him.
 
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How many of you watched any of his AHL games?

I only saw a few, but his usage was bizarre. No PP time for a team with a terrible PP, barely played, as well. It looked like they didn’t want to use him. I didn’t think he was bad though. He looked better than some of the other defensemen on their team. He wasn’t great defensively, but was playing a lot more structurally sound.

At the same time, the Islanders don’t have a good recent track record with developing good players, so I wouldn’t be sure they’ll maximize his potential.
 
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Pavel Buchnevich said:
At the same time, the Islanders don’t have a good recent track record with developing good players, so I wouldn’t be sure they’ll maximize his potential.
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That's with the forwards, not the defense. Pulock, Pelech, Toews, Mayfield are all Islanders that spent a year or two at the Bridge and (when healthy) make up our top 4. If Dobson could've played in the AHL this year there's no doubt the AHL All-star Sebastian Aho would've been up with the team.

Forward development down there definitely echoes your point.
 
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Wilde's 1st game back in Saginaw he scores a beautiful one timer on the PP. The young man has the talent, size and speed. With no training camp and injured does not bode well for a successful start for his pro career. He will develop and get some confidence back in Saggy. He will only be 21 next season, so it's not like he is 24 and not developing.
 
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Has Trotz completely neutered Bode of his play making skill? 3 shots in 7 games so far in the AHL.
19 shots in 20 games last season
 
FlyguyOX said:
Has Trotz completely neutered Bode of his play making skill? 3 shots in 7 games so far in the AHL.
19 shots in 20 games last season
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Trotz is an NHL coach. In fact, he's both 3rd in win and games coached all time in the National Hockey League. Has Bode regressed? That could be a good question.
 
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FlyguyOX said:
Has Trotz completely neutered Bode of his play making skill? 3 shots in 7 games so far in the AHL.
19 shots in 20 games last season
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Wow, that is low. Don't think it's Trotz as much as it is for two other reasons. 1) He's down on the depth chart there, 3rd pairing I believe and 2) Bridgeport is horrible, I don't think they spend more than a couple of seconds in the offensive zone every game.
 
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FlyguyOX said:
Has Trotz completely neutered Bode of his play making skill? 3 shots in 7 games so far in the AHL.
19 shots in 20 games last season
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I’ve seen a few games. Played a very defensive role. Didn’t get many offensive opportunities. What I saw last season made me question how he’s being developed, and this year he looked better, but I still didn’t understand his usage.
 
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Pavel Buchnevich said:
I’ve seen a few games. Played a very defensive role. Didn’t get many offensive opportunities. What I saw last season made me question how he’s being developed, and this year he looked better, but I still didn’t understand his usage.
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The AHL is a development league. His offence has not limited his ability to play at higher levels, his weakness has been his defensive play so.....that's what he works on. I don't see the issue with heavy defensive deployment.
 
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Pavel Buchnevich said:
I’ve seen a few games. Played a very defensive role. Didn’t get many offensive opportunities. What I saw last season made me question how he’s being developed, and this year he looked better, but I still didn’t understand his usage.
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It probably is Trotz. Trotz wants all players to play a 300 foot game, even if a rink is only 200 feet.

Bridgeport really has only been able to develop d-men the last five years so I guess I'll put my trust in Brent Thompson, which makes me feel icky and needing a shower.
 
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Riseonfire said:
The AHL is a development league. His offence has not limited his ability to play at higher levels, his weakness has been his defensive play so.....that's what he works on. I don't see the issue with heavy defensive deployment.
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Maybe. It seems like 3 points in 26 games is a little problematic though. You want to reign in his game, but you don’t want to eliminate his offense. He has big potential because he’s an unbelievable athlete with an elite shot and very good puck skills. What is he without that?
 
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Pavel Buchnevich said:
Maybe. It seems like 3 points in 26 games is a little problematic though. You want to reign in his game, but you don’t want to eliminate his offense. He has big potential because he’s an unbelievable athlete with an elite shot and very good puck skills. What is he without that?
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The important thing I think is that he has the traits that you mentioned and those won't go away. They look to be transferable to the NHL level enough where he just needs to be brought along and get reps in a defensive role.

I think players like him really do have to gradually develop bit by bit because of the utter raw-ness of his game. He may not be a guy that makes even an offensive impact until he's 24/25 but with the right development of his overall game I'm sure his offensive potential in will eventually be realized to level we expect.

I do agree though, he shouldn't be completely surpressed because even his offensive game does need to develop and if they're gonna make a guy with his offensive talent into a shutdown guy, that's a waste of riches.
 
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Our Lady Peace said:
The important thing I think is that he has the traits that you mentioned and those won't go away. They look to be transferable to the NHL level enough where he just needs to be brought along and get reps in a defensive role.

I think players like him really do have to gradually develop bit by bit because of the utter raw-ness of his game. He may not be a guy that makes even an offensive impact until he's 24/25 but with the right development of his overall game I'm sure his offensive potential in will eventually be realized to level we expect.

I do agree though, he shouldn't be completely surpressed because even his offensive game does need to develop and if they're gonna make a guy with his offensive talent into a shutdown guy, that's a waste of riches.
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Offensively, he hasn’t made much of his time in the A in terms of points on the board. However you can see the skill come out once and awhile when he decides to rush the puck into the offensive zone either on the PP or even strength. You can tell he wants to be that rushing defenseman.

The problem is that I’m sure he’s been told to focus on his defense and he seems to be thinking too much out there. He’s made a few poor pinches and wrong reads that have resulted in scoring chances and goals against so his confidence doesn’t seem too high right now.

Once he gets his reads right and learns the defensive side then he can hopefully use his offensive skill without getting burnt. Until then he’s got some work to do.
 
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Pavel Buchnevich said:
Maybe. It seems like 3 points in 26 games is a little problematic though. You want to reign in his game, but you don’t want to eliminate his offense. He has big potential because he’s an unbelievable athlete with an elite shot and very good puck skills. What is he without that?
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Offense is like art. Defense is more like Science. Wilde didn't stop being artistic, he's just studying right now. It COULD very well be that he busts lol but I'll show trust until this org shows it can't develop defenders.

I don't think any Islander fan or Management member is upset Pulock isn't scoring 25 goals a year. If you can't play in your own zone, you won't play for the Islanders.
 
Obviously I'd love to see Wilde turn it around, but it is nice to finally not have to count on a top prospect to pan out in order for us to have success. Pelech, Dobson, Pulock, Mayfield. That's the core right now, IMO. Bolduc has looked great which IMO is more important for us going forward considering the uncertainty on the left side after Pelech - with Leddy as a likely cap-cut candidate.

My guess is the theory brought up earlier is accurate - they want him to focus solely on his defensive game. Perhaps once he starts to find his footing in that area they will let him open up more offensively. Ever since Trotz arrived our young D have taken huge strides forward in their development, so I'll trust the process.
 
I do not think many people are surprised Wilde is struggling as a pro. His decision making in draft year looked suspect to many, including myself. In hindsight I think it should be clear that it was a bad idea for him to go easier route (junior), where he could just get away with leaning on his outstanding physical gifts.

That said, I am not a fan of writing anyone off, so let's hope he will put in the work and get to the big leagues. He has time, the Isles future does not depend on him. I think Dobson is going to be a beast, and Bolduc is coming along nicely.
 
Wilde probably becomes another Ville pokka for us at this rate. Shame but that might be his case. Doubt he makes the NHL unless he keeps growing his defensive game, and offensive output
 
I have viewed 3 BP games this season. Wilde is still very raw, there is no doubt he has the tools to a NHL D man. It is obvious he still needs development before he is NHL ready. He can become a #5 lead of the 3rd pairing. I don't think he will pass Dobson and Pulock as the 1-2 of their pairings on the Isles. He seems to be working on his defensive game. Understanding the intricacies of the pro game. He hasn't shown as much offence as one would expect, but this could be he is focused on his D. Hopefully he will find the right balance at some pt in this AHL season.
 
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The Winter Soldier said:
I have viewed 3 BP games this season. Wilde is still very raw, there is no doubt he has the tools to a NHL D man. It is obvious he still needs development before he is NHL ready. He can become a #5 lead of the 3rd pairing. I don't think he will pass Dobson and Pulock as the 1-2 of their pairings on the Isles. He seems to be working on his defensive game. Understanding the intricacies of the pro game. He hasn't shown as much offence as one would expect, but this could be he is focused on his D. Hopefully he will find the right balance at some pt in this AHL season.
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I'll probably wait a few more years on wilde anyways before dropping the hammer on him. I don't think the isles are in a rush for him to make the lineup either, especially because of how the team's current core is (although the expansion draft may make things tricky)
 
Loaned to Allsvenskan team Vasterviks. Wilde is unvaccinated which is likely the main reason for this move
 
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