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RD Bode Wilde (2018, 41st, NYI)

Whalers Fan said:
Or he dropped simply because he's bad defensively. Wilde has lots of offensive talent, but unless he gets a lot smarter regarding how he plays, he will be responsible for a lot more goals entering his own net than his opponent's net at the highest levels. Some of the mistakes he made were inexcusable for a player at his level.
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You aren't wrong, but teams often don't care about that with drafting. Potential usually goes at the top of the draft. Wilde was one of the few exceptions to that.
 
Whalers Fan said:
Or he dropped simply because he's bad defensively. Wilde has lots of offensive talent, but unless he gets a lot smarter regarding how he plays, he will be responsible for a lot more goals entering his own net than his opponent's net at the highest levels. Some of the mistakes he made were inexcusable for a player at his level.
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feels weird to say this, but the islanders have a pretty good coach, so hopefully he can help Bode out if he makes it to the NHL. It is up to Bode to improve and get there first tho
 
LeapOnOver said:
I've never seen a negative scouting report. The defense lapses are a concern and you can't teach smarts. I hope he ends up a good one, but, for expectation purposes I've got this kid labeled as a long shot hoping he proves otherwise.
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I've seen one, albeit from an HFboards poster @Magua in his scouting report who had him not ranked:

BODE WILDE (RD) - NR USA U18 (USHL) 41 points / 61 games 6’2.5”, 198 lbs The long and short of it: Wilde doesn’t make decisions or play at the speed I want out of a potential NHL defenseman. I don’t know what he is thinking half the time. Routinely over handles pucks, making unnecessary turnovers, gaffes off puck, issues with timing/spacing, and struggling to make quick reads in all zones. He has some redeeming puck skill he’ll flash in between turnovers, along with a good shot, good size, and physicality; so there’s that. His skating stride is short, his footwork rather ugly, so forecheckers get on him and he can’t skate by them or elude them, even though he’s not afraid to try and try……..and try. He has a clear lack of burst or quickness, leading to turnovers when he too frequently misjudges his ability as a skater or puck handler. More importantly, he doesn’t have the mental acuity to make up for it. If he gets half the rink to generate momentum, like he did on the big ice at the u18s, he can get some good build-up speed through the NZ, even if it doesn’t look pretty and takes far too many steps.

Wilde wouldn’t be on my list to draft as the 1st round pick he’s oft touted as; he likely wouldn’t be on my list period. His mental issues are bothersome enough to me, I’d prefer to let some other team take him. I’ve watched him as much as any prospect this draft, and I deeply question his NHL potential. And if he can simplify his game and use his size and do less with the puck to become an NHL depth defenseman, I’d be skeptical of what you’re using a high pick on. And all year I’ve witnessed a player who too often plays outside his means, with little adjustment. I found his u18 tournament performance marginally better than his USHL performance, despite a lack of points oddly, but I’d chalk that up more to the big ice, which allowed him to get more of that build up speed and not be forced to think as fast with pucks. And it still was far from an exceptional tournament.
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Rest of his ratings available here:

https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/maguas-2018-nhl-draft-guide.2504609/
 
Thrasymachus said:
feels weird to say this, but the islanders have a pretty good coach, so hopefully he can help Bode out if he makes it to the NHL. It is up to Bode to improve and get there first tho
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Wilde wasn't done any favors last season in the coaching department, as I'm not certain that NTDP first year coach Seth Appert could even spell the word "defense". Anything will be an improvement, but it remains to be seen if better coaching can overcome Wilde's very low defensive hockey IQ.
 
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CodeE said:
I've seen one, albeit from an HFboards poster @Magua in his scouting report who had him not ranked:



Rest of his ratings available here:

https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/maguas-2018-nhl-draft-guide.2504609/
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Yeah, I guess I meant I've never seen a bad one from the normal respected outlets. The one you linked is not just negative, it sounds like he lit him on fire and threw him under a bus. I'd honestly be concerned about bumping into him in a dark alley after writing something like that lol.

Sounds like he watched him a lot though and he might not be wrong.
 
Thrasymachus said:
feels weird to say this, but the islanders have a pretty good coach, so hopefully he can help Bode out if he makes it to the NHL. It is up to Bode to improve and get there first tho
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Yeah, I have scouted Bode a lot, he's one of my favorites from 2018, I can tell you that he looked great under good coaching and that no one on the USDP squad looked good defensively. Theres also the fact Wilde is actually able to defend when tasked for it. How is your AHL coaching these days ?
 
Mrb1p said:
Yeah, I have scouted Bode a lot, he's one of my favorites from 2018, I can tell you that he looked great under good coaching and that no one on the USDP squad looked good defensively. Theres also the fact Wilde is actually able to defend when tasked for it. How is your AHL coaching these days ?
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Brent Thompson has been our AHL coach for a long time. He seems passionate about player development but I question his ability - personally I would like to see the islanders move on, but it is a contentious issue. Some think he is great, others such as myself are a little tired of him. I wouldn't say he is a bad coach per se. Who knows, the sound tigers should be a good team for once so lets see how he does with a winning, playoff roster (fingers crossed)
 
Thrasymachus said:
Brent Thompson has been our AHL coach for a long time. He seems passionate about player development but I question his ability - personally I would like to see the islanders move on, but it is a contentious issue. Some think he is great, others such as myself are a little tired of him. I wouldn't say he is a bad coach per se. Who knows, the sound tigers should be a good team for once so lets see how he does with a winning, playoff roster (fingers crossed)
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You guys seem to have a pretty good convert rate on AHL players though, wouldn't you agree ?

Lee, Strome, Cizikas, De haan, Pulock and Aho seem to have developped good/great for some and they all spent time in the AHL ? Do you have some inside info on the usage he gives to younger players ? Sylvain Lefebvre, in laval/St john/Hamilton, was absolutely dreadful at this and would sit players because of "bad" defensive plays and he would promote the grinder types all the time... So happy hes gone.
 
Kyosama said:
Everything I see says he got 2 points?
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My mistake for some reason I thought 3. He still leads the league in D scoring.

I should add on a serious note, part of me worries he will kill it in the offensive zone but not work on his defense(which needs alot of work) in the OHL
 
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boredmale said:
My mistake for some reason I thought 3. He still leads the league in D scoring.

I should add on a serious note, part of me worries he will kill it in the offensive zone but not work on his defense(which needs alot of work) in the OHL
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So he won't be Bobby Orr? Shame
 
Pavel Buchnevich said:
So many here are trying to revise history. Wilde was one of the best players in his draft year last season. He has one of the highest ceilings in the past draft. He has a higher than usual amount of bust potential because of his profile, but so do a number of players.

I don't know why so many try to paint this guy in a negative light. He dropped because NHL teams are dumb, he had a bad tournament at the "biggest tournament" that NHL teams watch for draft-eligible players and he switched at the last second from college hockey to junior hockey for next season.
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“He dropped because NHL teams are dumb”
Wow
Teams can and do regularly make mistakes during the draft but this statement is just ridiculous. Might be time to check that ego, bro.
 
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I thought he would go Top 20 in his draft. Nice to see a guy who "fell" put up a good start in a harder league. Seems like upside to me...
 
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