That is the roll of the dice.Faber had a Seider type season with much better help on defense. Seider had the toughest competition I've heard. I am guilty of not looking at advanced stats and such, so I'll trust what others have stated. 200 hits, 200 blocks and had Ghost running the PP so his point totals obviously reflect he has other responsibilities. I'd take Mo 10 out of 10 times. Minnesota fans says if Faber stays exactly how he is (he's 21 so he will get better), the contract is a steal... Mo is only going to improve. Big , physical, mobile 50+ points for the next decade. Yes please.
I really don't know what you're talking about, I would easily describe Seider that way.The big qualities that I favor (in this case specifically favor in Faber) that people don't tend to use when describing Mo are "smart", "even headed", and "responsible".
Well, I guess we differ in that. I see him occasionally get steamed, get caught up ice, chase in the corners, blind pass under pressure, hang on to the puck too long, opt for hits over pucks, and try to make difficult plays over safe ones.I really don't know what you're talking about, I would easily describe Seider that way.
Bet his contract is 8 X8.25Think Seider value table goes like this:
1-year, 5.3M
2-year, 5.5M
3-year, 5.9M
4-year, 6.2M
5-year, 7.0M
6-year, 7.6M
7-year, 8.1M
8-year, 8.5M
That would be a stealBet his contract is 8 X8.25
The actual f....I don't think that is a bad contract. Maybe I am in the minority, but I would swap Faber for Seider straight up in a heartbeat. Very smart player and solid on both ends with no "ifs" or "buts" to explain his play.
That is the roll of the dice.
Blocks truly are great, but I don't see hits translating to much of anything these days, nor do I see an overall benefit in having a #1 D applying themselves that way. He can't be a Pronger in the modern game. A lot of the other stats need to be qualified or excused deployment, and there were plenty of times where the eye test was ugly. The big qualities that I favor (in this case specifically favor in Faber) that people don't tend to use when describing Mo are "smart", "even headed", and "responsible". The latter can be trained and improved, but the former two are tough ones. Of course I hope for the best, support the team and would love to be proven wrong but betting the farm on Mo gives me some dyspepsia.
Well, I guess we differ in that. I see him occasionally get steamed, get caught up ice, chase in the corners, blind pass under pressure, hang on to the puck too long, opt for hits over pucks, and try to make difficult plays over safe ones.
[obviously this only a list of complaints - I do see positives as well. I also don't rule out that there may be something about his play that bugs me and find fault in an equal and opposite way that others seem to find only praise. maybe I just want to pour cold water on everyone who treats him as some sacred cow]
That would be a steal
You should stop smoking whatever you are smoking, Seider is not signing 8x6.75Think Seider value table goes like this:
1-year, 5.3M
2-year, 5.5M
3-year, 5.9M
4-year, 6.2M
5-year, 7.0M
6-year, 7.6M
7-year, 8.1M
8-year, 8.5M
You should stop smoking whatever you are smoking, Seider is not signing 8x6.75
I'm assuming you interpreted that as meaning those are the amounts he would be paid in each year on an 8yr deal. @Henkka is saying on a 1yr deal he would have an AAV of 5.3M, on a 2yr deal it would be 5.5M, 3yr deal at 5.9M, all the way to an 8yr deal valued at an AAV of 8.5M.You should stop smoking whatever you are smoking, Seider is not signing 8x6.75
I'm assuming you interpreted that as meaning those are the amounts he would be paid in each year on an 8yr deal. @Henkka is saying on a 1yr deal he would have an AAV of 5.3M, on a 2yr deal it would be 5.5M, 3yr deal at 5.9M, all the way to an 8yr deal valued at an AAV of 8.5M.
Those numbers seem fairly realistic to me, maybe a tad low. Seider gets paid more than Faber on an 8yr deal IMO. At least 9M, maybe 9.5M.
Yeah, Faber is not a comparable. He has played 1 year, Seider has 3 year's of experience.
If we get a second buyout window, Husso would be the shortest penalty on our cap. Chia I don't think is in danger because he stopped thinking he was a puck mover and was fine on the second pairing. If Holl is bought out I would hope we could wait till next year. Copp would be way too long of a penalty year's wise so hopefully they don't have to make a decision for either of them till next year if at all possible.Oh ffs...Seider and Raymond are expected to take up just under $17m if signed to long term deals. We just happen to have around $17m in cap space. I would take a wild guess that Yzerman knows pretty well how much they are going to cost and it didn't cost us a thing in free agency to not sign thethingies.