Rasmus Ristolainen: The $5M, 0 percentile defenseman

[deadhead]

Flyers with Risto:
2-4-3

Flyers without Risto:
5-2-0

Coincidence?

Yes. Unless you think Risto is responsible for Hart coming back to earth!

 

[Beef Invictus]

Risto's last five games, GF/GA 4-3, xGF 52.42%, xGFrel +0.25

Is it sustainable? Who knows. That's why they play the games.

Everyone knows it's not.

 

[flyersnorth]

Yes. Unless you think Risto is responsible for Hart coming back to earth!

I was kidding, mostly.

Even so, I still think this team is better without Ristolainen. I'm sure he's a fine human being, but the circumstances around trading for him, and re-signing him are Exhibit A of what's rotten in Philadelphia.

So, much like AMac, the circumstances have made me dislike the player even though it is no fault of his own.

 

[deadhead]

Everyone knows it's not.

Yes, that's the problem, everybody "knows" instead of waiting to see the evidence.

 

[renberg]

Going into his draft year, I was hoping that Ristolainen would fall to the Flyers. Size, RHD, good scouting reports, etc. Then the Sabres got him. After watching him play there, my call was that the Flyers were lucky to have not taken him. Too often he was a clown on the ice making silly plays. Then the Flyers gave up a ransom to obtain him. I think that he has played better here than when he was in Buffalo but he still sucks.

 

[Beef Invictus]

I was kidding, mostly.

Even so, I still think this team is better without Ristolainen. I'm sure he's a fine human being, but the circumstances around trading for him, and re-signing him are Exhibit A of what's rotten in Philadelphia.

So, much like AMac, the circumstances have made me dislike the player even though it is no fault of his own.

He's such a massive black hole in multiple aspects of the game that he makes winning very hard. His TOI is way down, thankfully. He's at 16mins instead of 21. Playing him for 21 minutes is 21 minutes where you're generally getting caved in; 1/3 of the game where you're losing. That's hard to compensate for. Even at 1/4 of the game, that's 1/4 of the game where the other team has a huge advantage because he's on the ice. It's almost like being shorthanded. It's bad.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Yes, that's the problem, everybody "knows" instead of waiting to see the evidence.

You do know he isn't a mystery box, right? He's a very known commodity.

 

[Curufinwe]

95% of the league are fine humans, that's not anything to celebrate.

Risto is a guy who lied and said he really wanted to get in the playoffs where his game would supossedly shine, and then happily took the dumptruck of cash to stay with a bottom 5 team that could easily miss the playoffs for the next 5 years.

 

[flyersnorth]

He's such a massive black hole in multiple aspects of the game that he makes winning very hard. His TOI is way down, thankfully. He's at 16mins instead of 21. Playing him for 21 minutes is 21 minutes where you're generally getting caved in; 1/3 of the game where you're losing. That's hard to compensate for. Even at 1/4 of the game, that's 1/4 of the game where the other team has a huge advantage because he's on the ice. It's almost like being shorthanded. It's bad.

The worst part for me is the doubling down and 5 year contract.

 

[usahockey22flyers]

I'm sure Risto is a good dude. He plays the game hard.

I would love it if he was a good dude somewhere else.

 

[Rebels57]

Going into his draft year, I was hoping that Ristolainen would fall to the Flyers. Size, RHD, good scouting reports, etc. Then the Sabres got him. After watching him play there, my call was that the Flyers were lucky to have not taken him. Too often he was a clown on the ice making silly plays. Then the Flyers gave up a ransom to obtain him. I think that he has played better here than when he was in Buffalo but he still sucks.

In Buffalo he was just as bad defensively but provided some offense.

Here he might actually be the worst, most worthless player in the entire league and easily the worst contract.

 

[Striiker]

In Buffalo he was just as bad defensively but provided some offense.

Here he might actually be the worst, most worthless player in the entire league and easily the worst contract.

His scoring is a perfect example of how players can produce more than they should based on usage alone.

Bury a good player? No scoring.

Forcefeed an awful player tons of time with the teams best players? They’ll get points.

 

[Magua]

Yes, that's the problem, everybody "knows" instead of waiting to see the evidence.

617 games is not evidence? What are we waiting for exactly to make a determination? Should we give him until his 5th year on his minty fresh contract?

Sometimes it’s okay to not argue for the sake of it and just say: “Ristolainen is bad, the trade was bad, his contract is bad, Fletcher screwed the pooch.” We can all sing Kumbaya and save the arguments for something else because Ristolainen already has been tried and convicted with all that evidence. Jury left, lights are out, you’re still in the courtroom.

 

[Chicken N Raffls]

IDK, I think I'm with @deadhead on this one. It has only been what, 9 seasons? Let's wait and see. So much impatience on this board!

 

[Curufinwe]

Never go full Rasmus.

 

[Beef Invictus]

His scoring is a perfect example of how players can produce more than they should based on usage alone.

Bury a good player? No scoring.

Forcefeed an awful player tons of time with the teams best players? They’ll get points.

Exactly this.

 

[Starat327]

Good to see nothings changed around here. Carry on.

 

[Striiker]

Good to see nothings changed around here. Carry on.

Did you get the milk yet? Will you be back soon?

 

[Rich Nixon]

Rasmus Ristolainen is the best defenseman in the NHL.

 

[CanadianFlyer88]

I edited the title because it annoyed me.

It can be a temporary change if anyone suggests a further update.

 

[bennysflyers16]

Rasmus Ristolainen is the best defenseman in the NHL.

Will be, he's not quite there yet !!

 

[flyerslducks]

I was honestly joking when I said he should be moved to fwd, but it might help the team if he isn’t playing defense and give the spot to someone who can actually develop into a decent d in zamula/york. 3 useless, big, and physical fwd in the lineup in deslauriers, risto, and macewan could help us tank more. Definitely better than morin shifting to lw lol

 

[Starat327]

Did you get the milk yet? Will you be back soon?

Just trying to find those cookies you like. Would Hate to come back before I found them for you.

 

[Embiid]

You do know he isn't a mystery box, right? He's a very known commodity.

With emphasis on the prefix Commod(e)....

 

[Flyerfan4life]

Will be, he's not quite there yet !!

to soon to judge..

come back in bout 500 games