Player Discussion Rasmus Dahlin Part 4 - D (1st Overall, 2018, Frölunda HC, SHL)

[1point21Gigawatts]

Thank you for making my point about posters thinking the sky is falling with any non- 8yr deal.

You have no idea what the cap will be 6yrs from now.
You have no idea what our roster will look like 6 years from now.
But somehow you know our cap will be f***ed with a 5yr deal.

If a star player wants to stay, teams find a way to keep them by working the cap. If that star player wants to leave, then they leave. There is no bidding war involved to try to keep them.

Don‘t create reasons to worry about with this team. They give us plenty of real reasons to do so.

The other question i would couple with your point is, "how many 8 year deals have been signed this off season?" Everyone seems to be doing ≤4 year contract extensions or FA signings. I'd love to have Dahlin locked up, but 5 years isn't the end of the world.

 

[elchud]

If he signs for 5 years I will only buy one Dahlin jersey instead of four

 

[HogtownSabresfan]

He reported two separate things and they both can't be true, so one of his reports are false...or the situation changed, which is bad.

Very true. But what is also true is no deal is done. I do wonder if Dahlin believes in the commitment to the team when they wouldn't make a move at the deadline this year and now he sees a team 3rd last in payroll in the league.

 

[HOOats]

"He's not happy it's not done" doesn't mean he's seething in every aspect of life. He can be unhappy about the contract not being done and still very excited for the upcoming season, and happy to be a Sabre.

Warrow is the biggest moron in journalism.

There's kind of a rash of this going on, with local media types who aren't getting the nitty gritty scoops anymore lashing out. Because yes, it's impossible for Ras to be frustrated with his negotiations while still behaving normally participating in team videos and looking forward to this season.

Same thing happened with the "Diggs isn't happy here stuff." I personally know that he doesn't like living in Buffalo - it is indeed too small and boring for his liking. But all the Cover 1 and Bills Twitter guys were treating it as the most ridiculous fake news that he's not pumped on going to the McKinley Mall Applebee's twice a week.

 

[CrazyWayne]

A 5 year deal makes a ton of sense for dahlin

1. He is able to cash in a second huge contract at a good age
2. He is able to set the standard for the next round of contracts for tage/cozens and other young players

Tage and cozens signing for 7 per, kind of lowers what dahlin can demand

 

[1point21Gigawatts]

lock him up for the next 5-6 years. let him continue to grow and excel. Maybe he wins some hardware. At that point, hopefully, he will have more than earned his next paycheck.

 

[Dingo44]

5 NHL star restricted free agents who could sign early and what they're worth

There’s a lot of buzz for the upcoming class of restricted free agents. What are these five players worth on their next deal?

theathletic.com

Rasmus Dahlin, Buffalo Sabres
Of the 2024 restricted free agents, the player who seems closest to an extension is Rasmus Dahlin. The 23-year-old is coming off a three-year deal that carried a $6 million cap hit, signed by then-general manager Jason Botterill.

So now’s the time for a long-term deal.

Kevyn Adams has signed a handful of long-term deals since taking over as general manager, but none have had an outrageously high cap hit. If anything, it feels like Tage Thompson’s $7.1 million AAV has been an internal cap of sorts. But that limit probably doesn’t apply to Dahlin — his actual salary for this upcoming season is above that at $7.2 million.

Had his contract expired this year, Evolving-Hockey would have projected an eight-year deal worth a $10.5 million cap hit. While he has another year, this still seems like a fair endpoint. It would be worth 12 percent of the cap in the first year, which would be a little above the Cale Makars and Adam Foxes of the world. It may seem steep but is more a consequence of that bridge deal (which made sense at the time of the signing). But this would stay below his market value, which The Athletic’s Dom Luszczyszyn’s model projects to be around $12 million, on average, over the next seven years, after his current contract ends.

Adding a contract of that magnitude to the books in Buffalo would be significant, but it’s a worthwhile bet to make for a No. 1 defenseman whose game has stabilized after a slower start. As the Sabres continue to improve, Dahlin should have more support, which should keep his value high to match that salary as the contract ages.

 

[oldgoalie]

pay the man for 5 and let's get on with it. they don't need this distraction and a pissed off Dahlin.

 

[old kummelweck]

Well, if the deal isn't announced today, then it is probably as Peters characterized it.

 

[debaser66]

delete

 

[debaser66]

5 NHL star restricted free agents who could sign early and what they're worth

There’s a lot of buzz for the upcoming class of restricted free agents. What are these five players worth on their next deal?

theathletic.com

I am not paid for this but a quick checkup in capfriendly would serve well for a site that charges money for its content.
That deal was signed by Adams not Boterill.

 

[thewookie1]

Joy, more contract issues; fans will get jobbed more than likely with either it’s length or AAV and I further fear both screwing us

 

[yahhockey]

It probably won't happen this way but if he wants five years then he should receive less money than what is offered for eight years. Five isn't as good as eight from a team perspective so the player/agent should know the yearly amount will be less so that it's less enticing for the player. He should still want five years at less per year money because of the potential opportunity of the next contract. That gives the Sabres five years (this season and the first four of his new five year extension) to do magical things before the drama ensues because he can't leave the team as a UFA. Assuming he continues to be the player he currently is and probably even better than he has been then the team needs to extend him before the deadline or trade him. Preferably that would play out before training camp because it will be a distraction if it drags into February or March.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

It probably won't happen this way but if he wants five years then he should receive less money than what is offered for eight years. Five isn't as good as eight from a team perspective so the player/agent should know the yearly amount will be less so that it's less enticing for the player. He should still want five years at less per year money because of the potential opportunity of the next contract. That gives the Sabres five years (this season and the first four of his new five year extension) to do magical things before the drama ensues because he can't leave the team as a UFA. Assuming he continues to be the player he currently is and probably even better than he has been then the team needs to extend him before the deadline or trade him. Preferably that would play out before training camp because it will be a distraction if it drags into February or March.

That was always how it worked before Matthews and Marner basically changed how some stars handle their contracts. Dahlin can ask for whatever AAV and term he wants and will get it if he plays hardball enough and is willing to hold out.

 

[joshjull]

It probably won't happen this way but if he wants five years then he should receive less money than what is offered for eight years. Five isn't as good as eight from a team perspective so the player/agent should know the yearly amount will be less so that it's less enticing for the player. He should still want five years at less per year money because of the potential opportunity of the next contract. That gives the Sabres five years (this season and the first four of his new five year extension) to do magical things before the drama ensues because he can't leave the team as a UFA. Assuming he continues to be the player he currently is and probably even better than he has been then the team needs to extend him before the deadline or trade him. Preferably that would play out before training camp because it will be a distraction if it drags into February or March.

There is nothing to be gained on Dahlin‘s end by voluntarily taking less per year on his upcoming deal (Regardless of length).

 

[thewookie1]

That was always how it worked before Matthews and Marner basically changed how some stars handle their contracts. Dahlin can ask for whatever AAV and term he wants and will get it if he plays hardball enough and is willing to hold out.

Those 2 deserve to be tarred and feathered for that

 

[Fezzy126]

"He's not happy it's not done" doesn't mean he's seething in every aspect of life. He can be unhappy about the contract not being done and still very excited for the upcoming season, and happy to be a Sabre.

Warrow is the biggest moron in journalism.

It also doesn't have to mean he's unhappy with the Sabres, which is what everyone is just assuming.

It's equally possible that his unhappiness is directed at his agent.

 

[Push Dr Tracksuit]

Those 2 deserve to be tarred and feathered for that

There’s a bad take.

 

[thewookie1]

There’s a bad take.

Well not literally if that’s what you think I’m saying

 

[Jim Bob]

 

[Jim Bob]

 

[debaser66]

Dahlins also in the TSN TOP 25 players, everybody knows now how good he is.
I don't know if he will even be signing before the season is over, why should he.
should he stay healthy he will certainly be top3 in norris voting or even end up winning it this year, now that everyone knows he exists.

 

[WeDislikeEich]

I mean, yeah sure he could wait until next year. But it’s way too soon to be saying “not looking like an extension this year”. Afaik He’s only been able to sign an extension for just over a month now (July 1st). Training camp didn’t even start yet. How many players with 1 year to UFA have signed extensions yet (like Matthews, Nylander, Guentzel, etc)? How many prominent RFA’s next year have signed extensions so far this summer? Doesn’t seem like very many yet in either group.

Looking at when we have seen other young Sabres players sign their contract extensions:

Thompson signed Aug. 30th
Samuelsson signed in October.
Cozens didn’t sign his until February

I’d say it’s far too soon to say.

Just saying… ^

All of the overreaction when he wasn’t signed right away… smh.

 

[Fjordy]

Peters

 

[Chainshot]