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Confirmed with Link: Rangers Will Buy Out Dan Girardi

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Tawnos said:
Well. You can next year. I'm guessing the Rangers will be approaching Staal the same way. I mean, the buyout on Staal is pretty punishing this year. Next year, its significantly better and his full NTC expires July 1.

And as I said earlier, buying out Girardi should make Staal more amenable to accepting a trade to keep his full salary intact.
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I wasn't aware that his NMC/NTC expired at all.

I'm sure Gorton tried to dump these two for the last year without success. The problem is that every GM out there sees exactly what we see - high salary for years, marginal play, and getting worse.

(edit) I think G will, at the very minimum, get a look in someone's camp in September. I think Staal is pretty much done as an NHL starter. NYR were/are in a tough position on both.
 
I would assume the only reasons that Staal was kept over Girardi were:

On Ice Play -- Girardi's advanced stats tell a much worse story than Staal's... His shot against numbers were downright awful, bottom 5 in the league
Injuries -- Staal has only had the concussion issue last year, whereas Girardi has everything else going wrong with his body (Ribs, hand, knee, concussion, and overall soreness in the last 2 years)
Position of Strength -- The Rangers LD position is very strong, and Staal with a) the right partner and b) the right amount of minutes, is still a usable asset--hell, it might even bolster his value... Girardi on the other hand, no matter what minutes he got, nor what partner he had, was a terrible asset on the ice.

I'm not saying Staal is good, because he's not... He's a 3rd paring guy on a contending team that declined in year 2 of his contract instead of year 4-5, on top of that he's making way too much money... But again, give him the right partner and the right amount of minutes he'll be a passable asset... Build up his value with the right guy, then move him wit salary retention. Teams will be desperate for D after the expansion draft
 
Lorb said:
Enough with this dead cap. Staal on the ice is literally dead cap and dead crap rolled into one. Staal in the press box is literally dead cap and $5,700,000 of it. Adam Clendening at $750,000 playing on his off side with $3,000,000 of dead cap from a Staal buyout would be superior to Staal playing on crutches eating up the full $5,700,000. If the time comes when Staal is completely broken down which I suspect will happen during the next season, Gorton will have to do something drastic. If it requires another buyout then so be it.
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This is extremely short-sighted, and I am glad the Rangers aren't taking this route.
 
Looking at last year's C and A's.

McDonagh is safe.

Girardi's bought out.
Staal very likely could be bought out next year. He's going to need a very good season and with his stick handling skills I'm kind of doubting it.
Nash has one year remaining on his contract--I wouldn't be surprised if he was moved before the deadline--depending on how he and the team are doing. If I were to bet he won't be a Ranger next year. He certainly isn't going to get anywhere near the contract he's getting from the Rangers now.
Stepan--all kinds of trade rumors.

So I'm thinking we're going to have quite a bit of a different leadership group in 18-19.
 
eco's bones said:
Looking at last year's C and A's.

McDonagh is safe.

Girardi's bought out.
Staal very likely could be bought out next year. He's going to need a very good season and with his stick handling skills I'm kind of doubting it.
Nash has one year remaining on his contract--I wouldn't be surprised if he was moved before the deadline--depending on how he and the team are doing. If I were to bet he won't be a Ranger next year. He certainly isn't going to get anywhere near the contract he's getting from the Rangers now.
Stepan--all kinds of trade rumors.

So I'm thinking we're going to have quite a bit of a different leadership group in 18-19.
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Zucc should have an A next season.
I could see Fast getting an A the following season especially if Staal and Stepan are gone.
 
A little late but while I'm happy with the move Girardi is like that guy in the office that's super nice and everyone likes but sucks at his job. Bittersweet.
 
Whoot Whoot said:
Still bummed about this - I hope the locker room is going to be ok losing #5 plus possibly #21
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It's a business. They've lost many teammates and they'll lose many more. I think the dynamics will ok.

Zucc, Hank, and McDonagh are still around to steer the ship.
 
Miller Time NYR said:
So why exactly is this not a done deal yet? Is their some kind of advantage to waiting until after expansion.
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Because we're not privvy to knowing when the Rangers filed paperwork and whatnot.

Just because, before the window opened, they said they were going,to buy him out doesn't mean that they filed paperwork the minuter after the buyout window opened.

All we know is that he's being bought out.

Kind if obvious, really.

And there is no advantage as to when Girard was bought out because there was no pressing need to have someone else in his protection slot.
 
Bleed Ranger Blue said:
This is extremely short-sighted, and I am glad the Rangers aren't taking this route.
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please explain why this is short sighted. Broken down Staal incapable of holding down the 3rd pairing in the playoffs for $5,700,000 a year while blocking a capable young LHD from being developed is far sighted and being mindful of the big picture?
 
Irishguy42 said:
Because we're not privvy to knowing when the Rangers filed paperwork and whatnot.

Just because, before the window opened, they said they were going,to buy him out doesn't mean that they filed paperwork the minuter after the buyout window opened.

All we know is that he's being bought out.

Kind if obvious, really.

And there is no advantage as to when Girard was bought out because there was no pressing need to have someone else in his protection slot.
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I understand there no rush, and I could care less when it gets done but I find it a bit odd they said their going to do it and have yet too, other players have already been bought out. What I'm getting at is any way it was announced early in hopes a team that maybe would be interested in signing him cheap to mentour young players maybe wants the contract now to kill two birds with one stone, also to note Girardi knows he's being bought out that works two ways for one he can choose where he goes but he could waive whatever clause he has to go to that team to get all his money if they were to not buy him out.
 
Miller Time NYR said:
I understand there no rush, and I could care less when it gets done but I find it a bit odd they said their going to do it and have yet too, other players have already been bought out. What I'm getting at is any way it was announced early in hopes a team that maybe would be interested in signing him cheap to mentour young players maybe wants the contract now to kill two birds with one stone, also to note Girardi knows he's being bought out that works two ways for one he can choose where he goes but he could waive whatever clause he has to go to that team to get all his money if they were to not buy him out.
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I wonder who the protection slot that would have been used on Dan Girardi went on...it couldn't have been Brady Skjei who doesn't need to be protected...so who?
 
aemoreira1981 said:
I wonder who the protection slot that would have been used on Dan Girardi went on...it couldn't have been Brady Skjei who doesn't need to be protected...so who?
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It went to Nick Holden. FWIW Holden had a pretty good season until the last month or so and was awful in the playoffs paired with the even awfuller Staal. Holden's cap hit is a much more reasonable for the expectations cap hit than Girardi's. Those are at least reasons for the Rangers doing that. Another reason--they may have tried to sign Smith before the exp. draft and felt they might need that slot in case they did.
 
I have no problem protecting Holden. He isn't the problem on this team. On the 3rd pair he is a solid, experienced guy to help out Bereglazov
 
eco's bones said:
It went to Nick Holden. FWIW Holden had a pretty good season until the last month or so and was awful in the playoffs paired with the even awfuller Staal. Holden's cap hit is a much more reasonable for the expectations cap hit than Girardi's. Those are at least reasons for the Rangers doing that. Another reason--they may have tried to sign Smith before the exp. draft and felt they might need that slot in case they did.
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Smith is going to get 4x4.5 isn't he

Holden is a fine 3rd pair guy for another year . Ease the Russian kid in as the 7th

Mcd, Shatty , Skjei , smith , Staal, Holden , berzeglov
 
Vitto79 said:
Smith is going to get 4x4.5 isn't he

Holden is a fine 3rd pair guy for another year . Ease the Russian kid in as the 7th

Mcd, Shatty , Skjei , smith , Staal, Holden , berzeglov
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Not sure the Rangers will be able to fit both Smith and Shattenkirk cap wise. Not unless they make a deal of some kind that takes more salary off the books. Stepan? Nash? I wouldn't trade Stepan cheap just to make room for Shattenkirk. Derek is a good player and I'd want real value back for him.
 
eco's bones said:
Not sure the Rangers will be able to fit both Smith and Shattenkirk cap wise. Not unless they make a deal of some kind that takes more salary off the books. Stepan? Nash? I wouldn't trade Stepan cheap just to make room for Shattenkirk. Derek is a good player and I'd want real value back for him.
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Without Stepan traded, we have around 16m in cap space, assuming Klein retires
 
Amazing Kreiderman said:
I have no problem protecting Holden. He isn't the problem on this team. On the 3rd pair he is a solid, experienced guy to help out Bereglazov
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The issue isn't that he's a fine 3rd pair... it's that Staal is the other part of it.

They were disastrous together... and I have no desire to move either one up the ladder and that means one of 'em sits in the press box or more terrible baby-poo 3rd pair mins for all.
 
Amazing Kreiderman said:
Without Stepan traded, we have around 16m in cap space, assuming Klein retires
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I'm a little bit not knowing whether or not if Klein retires outright we still carry his cap hit which still has a year to go and IMO if he's going on to play in Europe he's not really retired and I think the NHL looks at it that way too. It may be in how it happens. For instance as a failure to report to training camp (or some other breach of the terms of his contract on 'his' not the Rangers part) giving the Rangers the right to terminate his contract and get out from under his cap hit.
 
eco's bones said:
I'm a little bit not knowing whether or not if Klein retires outright we still carry his cap hit which still has a year to go and IMO if he's going on to play in Europe he's not really retired and I think the NHL looks at it that way too. It may be in how it happens. For instance as a failure to report to training camp (or some other breach of the terms of his contract on 'his' not the Rangers part) giving the Rangers the right to terminate his contract and get out from under his cap hit.
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If Klein retires, his cap hit is gone. Period. If he goes to play in Europe without retiring, he's in breach of his contract and it can be terminated, which means his cap hit is gone.
 
eco's bones said:
I'm a little bit not knowing whether or not if Klein retires outright we still carry his cap hit which still has a year to go and IMO if he's going on to play in Europe he's not really retired and I think the NHL looks at it that way too. It may be in how it happens. For instance as a failure to report to training camp (or some other breach of the terms of his contract on 'his' not the Rangers part) giving the Rangers the right to terminate his contract and get out from under his cap hit.
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There is no cap restructure in case of a Klein retirement
 
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