Confirmed with Link: Rangers Sign Kevin Shattenkirk: (4 years x $6.65M)

[GoAwayPanarin]

McD - Shatty
Skjei - Smith
Who - Cares

I would.

Marc Staal is still a massive minus if he takes a regular shift, even on a 3rd pair.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Okay cool, so thats your opinion on the Staal contract and the previous Girardi contract? Since teams were willing to pay it, its an okay contract?

4 year deal for a 28-year old D-man is not the same as a 6-year deal for a 30-year old defenseman

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Yandle got 7 years, same player

And this is what all of you refuse to recognize.

This is now universally recognized as a terrible contract. There were rumors they were going to ask him to waive it after ONE YEAR! ONE YEAR!

We aren't stuck with this for seven years, but this is yet another Sather-like contract for a team's window that was closed. The fans can't accept that, and the GM can't either. Its obvious how this'll end.

 

[eco's bones]

He's awful defensively. Please, save me the charts. This guy can not defend.

IMO he's better than Yandle defensively. He's not great--not awful--he's okay. Not the first guy you throw out when you're killing a penalty.

OTOH he has a better shot than Yandle's--is better overall player than Yandle--is a two year younger player than Yandle and he's got a 4 year deal instead of a 7. Those are all positives IMO.

 

[Crease]

He's awful defensively. Please, save me the charts. This guy can not defend.

He's not "awful" defensively. I just disagree.

In any event,

McD - Shatty
Skjei - Smith

is objectively an enormous improvement from last year's

McD - Girardi
Staal - Klein

 

[Doctyl]

Yandle got 7 years, same player

Much more complete player than Yandle.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

That tweet... Not sure what to make of it. "Kevin Shattenkirk made the Rangers an offer they couldn't refuse"

 

[haveandare]

And this is what all of you refuse to recognize.

This is now universally recognized as a terrible contract. There were rumors they were going to ask him to waive it after ONE YEAR! ONE YEAR!

We aren't stuck with this for seven years, but this is yet another Sather-like contract for a team's window that was closed. The fans can't accept that, and the GM can't either. Its obvious how this'll end.

Yeah, nobody gets it but you. Of course.

What exactly is your preferred route for them to take?

 

[Ghost of jas]

I would.

Marc Staal is still a massive minus if he takes a regular shift, even on a 3rd pair.

I am still so praying for a Staal-for-Bjugstad swap. Florida teams seem to like awful Dmen these days.

 

[badi]

He is in the top 3 pp specialist in Hockey
If he s only average defensively he is worth this salary

 

[Doctyl]

And this is what all of you refuse to recognize.

This is now universally recognized as a terrible contract. There were rumors they were going to ask him to waive it after ONE YEAR! ONE YEAR!

We aren't stuck with this for seven years, but this is yet another Sather-like contract for a team's window that was closed. The fans can't accept that, and the GM can't either. Its obvious how this'll end.

The window is not closed. Tanking is not the proper decision with this roster.

 

[aufheben]

Does Machinehead have some business he's finishing up before he comes here to celebrate? NTTAWWT.

Preparing all the charts.

Actually I'd like to see a nice statistical breakdown for Shattenkirk.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

That's a straw man if I've ever seen one

Doesn't mean you venture into a terrible market for a very overrated player.

We got lucky that he wanted to take a discount. I'm sure he bailed Gorton out. Gorton has shown he's incompetent, probably would've offered Shattekirk another year or two if Shattenkirk didn't budge first.

 

[New York RKY]

McD had been pretty much carrying Girardi for years.

Even if Shattenkirk becomes more of a rover 1D I'm perfectly content with McD covering up for him.

 

[TankLarkin]

McD - Shatty
Skjei - Smith
Who - Cares

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Since you don't like the charts. Explain to us how you came to the conclusion he's terrible defensively and just a PP specialist.

That was St Louis and Washington's conclusion.

And you know better?

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

He's not "awful" defensively. I just disagree.

In any event,

McD - Shatty
Skjei - Smith

is objectively an enormous improvement from last year's

McD - Girardi
Staal - Klein

That's light and day. My god, we replaced Girardi and Klein with Shattenkirk and Smith

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

There are rumors the Devils offered 7X7 and some even have them offering 7X7.5

He took a MASSIVE discount to play here.

 

[PlamsUnlimited]

That was St Louis and Washington's conclusion.

And you know better?

His ES numbers look alright ...

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

That was St Louis and Washington's conclusion.

And you know better?

It was? St Louis legit had 2 better RHD ahead of him. He was misused by Washington.

I think people need to realize that he isn't some magic pill and does have warts as a player, but hes not the gong show defensively that you're trying to paint him as.

 

[NickyFotiu]

So Stepan for Shattenkirk, Deangelo, and the 7th overall pick. Can't complain at all

Left out Ranta but that is a great way to look at how things fell in to place!

 

[Trxjw]

I still don't think he plays on the top pair. AV likes matchup pairings, and McDonagh with Shattenkirk isn't a matchup pairing.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

IMO he's better than Yandle defensively. He's not great--not awful--he's okay. Not the first guy you throw out when you're killing a penalty.

OTOH he has a better shot than Yandle's--is better overall player than Yandle--is a two year younger player than Yandle and he's got a 4 year deal instead of a 7. Those are all positives IMO.

Yandle was an okay defender. I had no problem with Yandle other than there just wasn't a long term fit with the Rangers. If we didn't have Staal, we should've re-signed him, but Sather signed Staal to a Sather-like contract.

Shattenkirk, no. He's a bad defender, his last two teams have used him as such.

 

[haveandare]

That was St Louis and Washington's conclusion.

And you know better?

So their teams are wise and their authority is credible, but our team isn't?

You realize neither of those teams have gotten as close as the Rangers since I don't even know when, correct?

 

[Hire Sather]

That was St Louis and Washington's conclusion.

And you know better?

You are posting as if we have him the Yandle contract . We didn't. There is no logical reason to be upset by this.