Confirmed with Link: Rangers Sign Brendan Smith (4 years x $4.35M)

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Anyone who is disappointed set then at way too high. The guy is a 3-4-5 defensive defenseman. The guy plays both RD and LD and moves the puck and his feet well. He's been solid and a nice addition to the team. He was never meant to solve all the issues by himself but, at least IMO, he should be someone this team tries to bring back as an improvement to the overall depth to the defense.
 
Smith and the LA Kings told me to tell you.. Don't be dopey

You do realize that even if Smith somehow sucks and granted the Kings missed the playoffs that doesn't discredit Corsi which has never claimed to 100% of the time predict good play? If a guy wins the lottery do you say to yourself "pssss, the lottery is easy to win"?
 
You do realize that even if Smith somehow sucks and granted the Kings missed the playoffs that doesn't discredit Corsi which has never claimed to 100% of the time predict good play? If a guy wins the lottery do you say to yourself "pssss, the lottery is easy to win"?
Yes, he probably does.
 
Yeah this basically answers your question. Let's just go with that lol

So you think that one data point for one player and one team discredits Corsi? And are you saying that if someone wins the lottery that means that the lottery is easy to win?
 
Anyone who is disappointed set then at way too high. The guy is a 3-4-5 defensive defenseman. The guy plays both RD and LD and moves the puck and his feet well. He's been solid and a nice addition to the team. He was never meant to solve all the issues by himself but, at least IMO, he should be someone this team tries to bring back as an improvement to the overall depth to the defense.

This is a very fair assessment
 
Who would you rather have out there, Smith, or Girardi, Staal, Holden or Klein? That's the value he brings to the team. He's better than the majority of the defensemen the NYR have on their roster. Smith can skate and pass the puck well, two attributes too many lack.

He's not a first pairing D-man on a good defensive core, but on this team, he's scratching the surface.
 
I think people are expecting Smith to be what Shattenkirk was supposed to be. That's where the disappointment comes in. Smith is better than the majority of our defensemen, but he is not as good as Shattenkirk.
 
I think people are expecting Smith to be what Shattenkirk was supposed to be. That's where the disappointment comes in. Smith is better than the majority of our defensemen, but he is not as good as Shattenkirk.

I think so too, if people just thought about Smith as a good defensive D-man instead of thinking about him as our saviour then all would be well.
 
Anyone who is disappointed set then at way too high. The guy is a 3-4-5 defensive defenseman. The guy plays both RD and LD and moves the puck and his feet well. He's been solid and a nice addition to the team. He was never meant to solve all the issues by himself but, at least IMO, he should be someone this team tries to bring back as an improvement to the overall depth to the defense.

That's fair
 
I'm not looking to have the stat argument. I was just being a bit of a wiseass and stir up the convo a little.. Because I'm good at it
 
I think people are expecting Smith to be what Shattenkirk was supposed to be. That's where the disappointment comes in. Smith is better than the majority of our defensemen, but he is not as good as Shattenkirk.

Honestly.. I was expecting to get another Klein of the first few seasons. Still think he falls short IMO.
 
Honestly.. I was expecting to get another Klein of the first few seasons. Still think he falls short IMO.

Smith is exactly that. The difference between Smith in 2017 and Klein in 2013 is that we do not have the depth on defense to give Smith the chance to show what he can do in the same role. Instead, he is playing a bigger role than he is suited for
 
He's been solid. Which is the kind of NHLer he's always been. Not elite. Not terrible. A middle of the lineup defender. A good defense corps have more than one him. Go get a couple more and I think you'll see some better results in the defensive zone.
 
He's been solid. Which is the kind of NHLer he's always been. Not elite. Not terrible. A middle of the lineup defender. A good defense corps have more than one him. Go get a couple more and I think you'll see some better results in the defensive zone.

This is it. As I stated earlier when he was compared to Klein, we had a better D-group when we traded Del Zotto for Klein. Our current group is just not deep enough for a guy like Smith to be in a comfortable role.
 
Smith has been good.I've also been surprised at how good a first pass he makes.He's made a couple nice long ones that have led to some odd man rushes.

I didnt expect that from him.
 
And yeah, i'm saying that over a longer period of time Brendan Smith is a #4 and should be used as a #4.
We are going to have to agree to disagree here. I am more in the camp that what he is is a good third pairing defenseman and should be used as such.
 
Anyone who is disappointed set then at way too high.
I am not disappointed in what he has done, as I believe that is what a good third pairing defenseman should be doing. What I am disappointed in is the price that we paid to get him.
 
I'm not disappointed, I have said since the beginning, before he was even traded here that he was a D ideally teams would rather have on their 3rd pair.

I'm disappointing that the Rangers put themselves in a less than ideal situation. They likely had higher expectations. So they made a deal based on them, and now will either have to walk away or give a contract based on their expectations while being cognizant of what they already traded for him.

It's not like he or his agent are going to look at the Rangers roster and say, if you want to stay, we better sign cheap, they have other options and they gave up nothing for you.

He has all the leverage to ask the Rangers for the high end of what he would likely get by going on the UFA market. Which why wouldn't he, the Rangers are not going to sign him to expose him, so is he really going to sign in the time period between June 21st and June 30th, when he could just wait for July 1st and see what he may get somewhere else? So he can counter whatever the Rangers offered or at least consider the other offers, If he does I'd be pretty surprised.
 
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I think he's a solid player. Anyone expecting him to be a top pairing guy had crazy expectations.

I love how he plays with an edge and sticks up for his teammates. A sorely needed quality on this team.
 
Smith has been good with the Rangers. They landed a player with some attitude. Should try to weed certain penalties out of his game, but overall it is good. He is a step in the right direction. I never made the acquisition into something of greater magnitude than it was. It was a good strengthening of what needed shoring up, with a real renovation in the offseason to come. Continuous improvement; Smith was one improvement.
 
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