Confirmed with Link: Rangers sign Blake Wheeler [1Y/800K]

Wheeler took 800k on a team strapped for RWs where he will have the chance to be on the top 2 lines.

The cap is going up next season. He produces like last season, someone will give him 3-3.5M.
 
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Yeah Wheeler's straight line speed definitely isn't slow. When people say he has lost a step, that is true but he has lost a step from literally being one of the fastest guys in the league who used to blow past d-men at will in the early to mid 2010s to being about average in his skating. He played with a lot of fast players on the Jets and it wasn't his straightline speed holding him back. Reading this thread one would think he was Lucic on the Flames.
Yeah, prime Wheeler was definitely very much in the mode of Rick Nash when it came to skating. He was such a big hulking guy that it didn't look like he was skating very fast but he would routinely burn players every single game. Even still, watching him last season, this is a guy who sure has lost a step but he his foot speed is still more than fine and his smarts and skill can more than make up for it in the right system and with the right line mates. Wheeler even at 37, for an 800k AAV is an absolute heist.

Not to mention I feel like a broken record but a team can play a fast style without having a team full of McDavid's and Hagelin's. A team playing fast is mores predicated on playing a style defined by fast decisions made with the puck, good puck support up the ice and players getting into the right lanes and taking the right paths with and without the puck - which are all things that are system oriented.
 
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Curiously, you didn't mention that "he's chasing a Stanley Cup" (ie... came to the Rangers to win) and took far less than market value ("steal of a deal") to play for the Rangers (because that's where he wants to play).

Also said it's probably a "good move for that team (NYR)".

This team could use a few vociferous people in the room.

I'm obviously not in Laviolette's head, but the more that this ages the more I think Wheeler is on the 2nd line RW and Lafreniere is on that line on the left.

Kreider to line 3 (and part of me hates this) but retains his PK/PP time so his ATOI doesn't suffer as much playing with Trocheck and Goodrow/Vesey.

Will this Wheeler thing work out? We'll see.
It is under market for him. His market was probably 2m. It's fine. I still don't think he's a fit here and one of my initial issues was that I said he would be crammed into a top 6 role and the pp. You're saying he's going into the top 6. If you think laffy and wheeler are on line 2 with Vinny or chytil then you're saying the other like will be panarin zib and kakko which just doesn't work. If wheeler was coming here to be the 3rw then that's fine but he's not. And what 38 year old that hasn't won a cup isn't chasing a cup? How is there any stock put in that comment? It's like talking about a rookie and saying "he's really trying to make the team." Absolute shocker that a guy without a ring would like to get one bc the teams he has led haven't been able to get it done.

Also I hope people have gone and watch that presser he did at the end of the year. Guy get stripped of captaincy and then on his way out tries to pick a fight in the media w a coach that (accurately) called out his team for their effort the elimination game. Can you imagine Kreider or someone else saying the same crap as wheeler if turk had the stones to call the team out after that elimination no show by the rangers?

Honestly with the way the room is now, his rumored personality IS needed.

The captain of this team played with him and signed off on it. This is someone who knows him well and has gone into battle with him. He knows him better than any of us do. If he’s cool with it then so am I.

Guys like Messier wouldn’t be too well received today either. Not putting wheeler on that level, but it’s the truth. Even Hank was known to be a bit of an ass.

What I do know is that we have people who are part of the leadership group here who really have no business being in it (#10 front and center in this.) If the coach isn’t going to hold certain guys accountable (and I have my doubts that Lavi will) then you need the players to police that shit.

Plus wasn’t it Laine who had a problem with Wheeler? Seems like Blake was right about that one.
Weird then that he was stripped of his captaincy and then tried to talk back at a coach through the media when the team was properly called our for no showing in an elimination game. Call me negative but that not what I'm looking for in a personality to add to a room half filled with entitlement already.
 
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It is under market for him. His market was probably 2m. It's fine. I still don't think he's a fit here and one of my initial issues was that I said he would be crammed into a top 6 role and the pp. You're saying he's going into the top 6. If you think laffy and wheeler are on line 2 with Vinny or chytil then you're saying the other like will be panarin zib and kakko which just doesn't work. If wheeler was coming here to be the 3rw then that's fine but he's not. And what 38 year old that hasn't won a cup isn't chasing a cup? How is there any stock put in that comment? It's like talking about a rookie and saying "he's really trying to make the team." Absolute shocker that a guy without a ring would like to get one bc the teams he has led haven't been able to get it done.

Yeah, I mean, I partially get your perspective on this but the question remains: who is your 2nd line RW? Lafreniere on his off side? Doesn't that guy have enough pressure on him without putting him in a position to fail even more?

Wheeler was a great fit whether you liked it or not. He's cheap. He's talented. He fills a void in the Rangers lineup @ 2 RW.

The "chasing the Cup" comment is because you seem to think this is about NEXT YEAR's money. It's not. If he was chasing money, he wouldn't be here at all.
Also I hope people have gone and watch that presser he did at the end of the year. Guy get stripped of captaincy and then on his way out tries to pick a fight in the media w a coach that (accurately) called out his team for their effort the elimination game. Can you imagine Kreider or someone else saying the same crap as wheeler if turk had the stones to call the team out after that elimination no show by the rangers?


Weird then that he was stripped of his captaincy and then tried to talk back at a coach through the media when the team was properly called our for no showing in an elimination game. Call me negative but that not what I'm looking for in a personality to add to a room half filled with entitlement already.

Yeah, I mean you can look at it entirely negatively if you want to. You can also look at it that he puts his heart on his sleeve and gives his perspective.

Wheeler is a lot of things but "entitled" isn't one I'd lay at his feet. More like unafraid to tell it how it is. If you're going to criticize him for "talking back" at the coach then maybe you should evaluate whether said coach should've burned his bridges with the media in the first place.

I mean, let's look at what he said:

“I thought Bones had an opportunity to address us as a team. He could’ve been honest with us, handled it behind closed doors… I didn’t like how he handled himself after the game.”

"I gave it everything I had, and I hope that's good enough," Wheeler said, per TSN's Jon Lu. "There wasn't a day I took off. I guess that's the best you can do."

What's wrong with that? Nothing.
 
Yeah, I mean, I partially get your perspective on this but the question remains: who is your 2nd line RW? Lafreniere on his off side? Doesn't that guy have enough pressure on him without putting him in a position to fail even more?

Wheeler was a great fit whether you liked it or not. He's cheap. He's talented. He fills a void in the Rangers lineup @ 2 RW.

The "chasing the Cup" comment is because you seem to think this is about NEXT YEAR's money. It's not. If he was chasing money, he wouldn't be here at all.


Yeah, I mean you can look at it entirely negatively if you want to. You can also look at it that he puts his heart on his sleeve and gives his perspective.

Wheeler is a lot of things but "entitled" isn't one I'd lay at his feet. More like unafraid to tell it how it is. If you're going to criticize him for "talking back" at the coach then maybe you should evaluate whether said coach should've burned his bridges with the media in the first place.

I mean, let's look at what he said:

“I thought Bones had an opportunity to address us as a team. He could’ve been honest with us, handled it behind closed doors… I didn’t like how he handled himself after the game.”

"I gave it everything I had, and I hope that's good enough," Wheeler said, per TSN's Jon Lu. "There wasn't a day I took off. I guess that's the best you can do."

What's wrong with that? Nothing.
Laffy is going into season 4 as a 1oa pick. If he can't be in a top 6 role then get him out of here. If you need him on the low then figure it out w Kreider and panarin and one switching sides now. If you are looking at wheeler to be a top 6 then there will be burnout happening in February.

And I can see your perspective to the press conference thing but I have followed the jets for years, they have been one of my fav western teams to follow bc I just loved the nostalgia and they seemed like a team just waiting to make their run which never happened. In a vacuum the presser isn't a big deal, with the totality of the last few years in peg overall it came off beyond arrogant and like someone who thought they still had the clout to crap on a coach on his way out the door. If wheeler thought he left it all out there in that series then that is even a bigger concern. And for all of this he still doesn't address the issues I'm this forward group top 9 beyond being a rw. Aging former superstars don't usually alter to fit the team need. I hope it works though

Didn't say that. If he's all about the money, he wouldn't have cared where he went. He went to a team that he fits on for A LOT less than market value. That was the point.
He went to a playoff team with an obvious hole at rw that he knew he would get a top 6 rw job rather than potentially being pushed down a lineup where he is now better suited at this point in his career. Players want to play and ice time matters, but he's not at a point of his career that he can manage those minutes like he use to.
 
Wheeler is the forward version of Dan Boyle.
bingo, and halfway through the season we will hear that the issue all season was his stick was 1/2" too long. That was beyond comical when they tried to promote that about boyle's struggles
 
Maybe Chytil and Laf can just ignore Panarin like he ignores them and do their thing. Maybe this both pushes the young players to get better AND pisses Bread off enough that he either stops playing so dumb or asks out.

I’m looking for silver linings here people.
 


I was one of the bigger Cuylle fans in his draft year but I didn't envision him cracking the team in this manner.

I can't remember the last time a non-first round pick of ours really seized an opportunity like this and REALLY forced his way into the line-up. Just has not happened on the offensive side here very often. A guy who actually won a true competition while having waivers exemption.
 
I was one of the bigger Cuylle fans in his draft year but I didn't envision him cracking the team in this manner.

I can't remember the last time a non-first round pick of ours really seized an opportunity like this and REALLY forced his way into the line-up. Just has not happened on the offensive side here very often. A guy who actually won a true competition while having waivers exemption.
People here are going to underrate this kid until they wake up one day a year or two from now and Will is their favorite player.
 
I was one of the bigger Cuylle fans in his draft year but I didn't envision him cracking the team in this manner.

I can't remember the last time a non-first round pick of ours really seized an opportunity like this and REALLY forced his way into the line-up. Just has not happened on the offensive side here very often. A guy who actually won a true competition while having waivers exemption.
He has things we need. He is young. He is big. He is coachable. He has a year of AHL experience. He is not a pushover. He probably will never score 50 goals but he has been a 20 plus goal scorer at every level so far. With any luck he will be one in the NHL also. When all is said and done it was a really nice pickup for Lias.
 
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