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Confirmed with Link: Rangers sign Benoit Pouliot (1 year, $1.3M)

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slipknottin said:
He has size, and he will hit. I don't understand what "soft" means on this board at all.

Soft to me would be a guy that completely shies away from contact taking or giving.

I don't see anyone on the rangers who doesn't hit, or is unwilling to take a hit. Richards is probably as close as they come
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How much have you seen of him? What do you think of Pyatt? His hit totals are high. Big guy. Is he physical?
 
NYR Viper said:
How much have you seen of him? What do you think of Pyatt? His hit totals are high. Big guy. Is he physical?
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Pyatt is absolutely physical. I'm not saying them aren't varying degrees of how physical a player is, what I hate is that if a guy isn't Lucic he is labeled soft.

So everyone in the league is soft according to some posters here
 
slipknottin said:
Pyatt is absolutely physical. I'm not saying them aren't varying degrees of how physical a player is, what I hate is that if a guy isn't Lucic he is labeled soft.

So everyone in the league is soft according to some posters here
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Parking cones that are in empty Walmart Parking lots are more physical then pyatt.. He doesn't hit people he pushes and sometimes will ride A guy out. He is a nice guy who played a good play off series but other then that he was the drizzling poops
 
slipknottin said:
I edited my post. But that would be my view. Is Pyatt Lucic? Heck no. Is he soft? heck no
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Like I said, it's not that Pouliot is soft, just very inconsistent with his physical game. Similar to Pyatt. When he is on, he is very good using his body and throwing hits. He is an above average skater for his size. But when he is off, he is not. That's all I said. Which is true.

Like I said, I like the signing. Big guy who skates well and has some offense.
 
NYR Viper said:
And the regular season he was one of the worst?
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One of the worst is exaggerating it. He was better than most of the scrubs in the bottom 6.

Boyle also struggled in the regular season, but like Pyatt, turned it up in the playoffs.
 
Kershaw said:
One of the worst is exaggerating it. He was better than most of the scrubs in the bottom 6.

Boyle also struggled in the regular season, but like Pyatt, turned it up in the playoffs.
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The difference between the 2 is that Boyle still added a key face off guy, great PKer and defensive presence at 5v5. Boyle is a good example of a multi dimensional bottom 6 player I like. Even if he isn't scoring, he is helping the team in other ways.
 
Kershaw said:
One of the worst is exaggerating it. He was better than most of the scrubs in the bottom 6.

Boyle also struggled in the regular season, but like Pyatt, turned it up in the playoffs.
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Pyatt had a strong start to the season but he all but completely disappeared after a few games. I think his regular season was pretty darn bad. It's not that he isn't a capable 4th liner, but if he is going to get 3rd line minutes he should be producing a bit more. The Rangers bottom 6 as a whole struggled. Depth killed them in the playoffs and to be honest they need big changes down there.
 
NYR Viper said:
The difference between the 2 is that Boyle still added a key face off guy, great PKer and defensive presence at 5v5. Boyle is a good example of a multi dimensional bottom 6 player I like. Even if he isn't scoring, he is helping the team in other ways.
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h0ckeyman said:
Pyatt had a strong start to the season but he all but completely disappeared after a few games. I think his regular season was pretty darn bad. It's not that he isn't a capable 4th liner, but if he is going to get 3rd line minutes he should be producing a bit more. The Rangers bottom 6 as a whole struggled. Depth killed them in the playoffs and to be honest they need big changes down there.
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Agree with both of you. Pyatt is a ****ing disaster out there, but he is still better than the other disastrous options on the roster.
 
Inferno said:
pyatt is too slow to play the kind of game we want to start playing.
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So is Boyle, IMO. And Boyle just lost his position. Moore is going to be taking majority of the defensive zone faceoffs.

I really dislike Boyle on the wing. I'd much rather see Pyatt on the 4th line wing. And i'm not that enamoured with the idea of Pyatt playing a regular shift at all.

I'd much rather see a kid like Miller, Kristo, or Fast play that wing.

If i had my way, Pyatt would either be 13th forward or traded. And Boyle would be traded.
 
puckrush said:
So is Boyle, IMO. And Boyle just lost his position. Moore is going to be taking majority of the defensive zone faceoffs.

I really dislike Boyle on the wing. I'd much rather see Pyatt on the 4th line wing. And i'm not that enamoured with the idea of Pyatt playing a regular shift at all.

I'd much rather see a kid like Miller, Kristo, or Fast play that wing.

If i had my way, Pyatt would either be 13th forward or traded. And Boyle would be traded.
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I think it is not at all a long shot that both of those guys you mentioned are moved...
 
Good signing. Adds a bit of depth on the left wing. Could be good for 30-35 points over an 82 game stretch.

Best part is that it's a 1 year deal so it doesn't hurt us down the track for our FAs.
 
Losing Boyle would be another step in the wrong direction, a heart and soul player something the Rangers have still yet to replace from two seasons ago.
 
Was opposed to this when Tawnos first brought it up, but I've warmed up to it. Apparently he worked his butt off for Tampa in their bottom-6/on the second line. I'll take a 6'4, 30/40pt player who busts his ass any day. I think he's an upgrade on Pyatt.
 
SA16 said:
For reference in regards to offensive ability:

Last 3 years average for Pouliot are 16-19-35 and ~12mins/game (sh% range from 10-15)
Last 3 years average for Clarkson are 22-12-34 and ~15.5 mins/game (sh% range from 6-13)

So they are comparable offensively - Pouliots production is actually better. So I guess Clarksons defense/hitting/PK'ing are worth 4M+ more then?

Toronto probably is expecting more than 35 pts from Clarkson but tbh expecting more than that is pretty unreasonable. That's what he is. I suppose play him with Kessel and sure he'll get more points but thats just based on playing more with more skilled guys rather than skill (as in anyone can play there and improve their numbers)
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I don't know how we got such different results for regular season stats, but it should look like this. Atleast average time on ice and shot% are the same.

David Clarkson
2010-11 12g 6a 18p ATOI 13:37 s% 6.3
2011-12 30g 16a 46p ATOI 16:22 s% 13.2
2013 15g 9a 24p ATOI 17:36 s% 8.3
3-year average 19g 10a 29p ATOI 15:52 s% 9.3

Benoit Pouliot
2010-11 13g 17a 30p ATOI 11:32 S% 10.1
2011-12 16g 16g 32p ATOI 12:31 s% 15.0
2013 8g 12a 20p ATOI 13:14 s% 13.3
3-year average 12g 15a 27p ATOI 12:26 s% 12.8

But the point still stands, per these stats they're not that far apart and definitely not 4 millions apart...

Happy to have him on a deal like that.

source: http://www.hockey-reference.com/
 
timor said:
I don't know how we got such different results for regular season stats, but it should look like this. Atleast average time on ice and shot% are the same.

David Clarkson
2010-11 12g 6a 18p ATOI 13:37 s% 6.3
2011-12 30g 16a 46p ATOI 16:22 s% 13.2
2013 15g 9a 24p ATOI 17:36 s% 8.3
3-year average 19g 10a 29p ATOI 15:52 s% 9.3

Benoit Pouliot
2010-11 13g 17a 30p ATOI 11:32 S% 10.1
2011-12 16g 16g 32p ATOI 12:31 s% 15.0
2013 8g 12a 20p ATOI 13:14 s% 13.3
3-year average 12g 15a 27p ATOI 12:26 s% 12.8

But the point still stands, per these stats they're not that far apart and definitely not 4 millions apart...

Happy to have him on a deal like that.

source: http://www.hockey-reference.com/
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Maybe he stretched out 2013's numbers to 82 games and adjusted point totals accordingly? It would account for the extraneous data.
 
Kritikal said:
Maybe he stretched out 2013's numbers to 82 games and adjusted point totals accordingly? It would account for the extraneous data.
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Actually yes, that explains it. Didn't really think of that for some reason. That makes the numbers match taking into account Pouliot only played 34 games.
 
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