Larry Brooks: Rangers/Red Wings Trouba Talks Heating up, NYR would retain $2.5

[GENESISPuck94]

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Look how considerate Drury is to Trouba.

There's worse places to be than with the Detroit Red Wings. Great organization. Great uniforms. From what I hear the suburbs are nice. Big hockey state Michigan.

I wouldn't be sad if I got traded there other than they won't be ready to contend for a while. But there's a lot of winning tradition, not recent, but historically that organization is tops for a US team. Most Cups of any US team. They'll be back to winning soon enough.

 

[will1066]

There's worse places to be than with the Detroit Red Wings. Great organization. Great uniforms. From what I hear the suburbs are nice. Big hockey state Michigan.

I wouldn't be sad if I got traded there other than they won't be ready to contend for a while. But there's a lot of winning tradition, not recent, but historically that organization is tops for a US team. Most Cups of any US team. They'll be back to winning soon enough.

You should cut and paste this onto his IG or sumtin.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Also we're not dealing from a position of strength. Detroit knows that.

We might be dealing with a stronger position than you think though.

15 team no trade means that there are 16 teams he can go to. It's more than possible that there are 1 or 2 other teams on his yes list that have interest.

Theres no doubt that this has been in the works for a while and Detroit is definitely his preferred destination, but they may already have something in place after they've deliberated with other teams for the last week and are just waiting for July 1 to get things moving.

 

[GAGLine]

Reality is, we can replace trouba with a league min guy like ruhwedel on 3rd pair until TDL.

I'm not a fan of that reality. I'd rather just grab someone better now. We don't have the capital to waste on upgrading the position at the deadline.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Does kakko find himself in this deal?

No, why would he.

 

[NYR Viper]

Veleno is projected to get 2 years and $2m per. 100+ hits for three years in a row. 28 points last year and 49% FO. He’d be a good get as 4C and someone who could slide up as needed. Probably tops out as a 3C but that’s useful for what the team needs.

Not many centers available in UFA and he fits the ‘younger’ mandate.

I'm not a fan of that reality. I'd rather just grab someone better now. We don't have the capital to waste on upgrading the position at the deadline.

They could overpay a veteran UFA for this season even as long as it’s not multi-year as next offseason they may need the cap. That’s worst case

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Does kakko find himself in this deal?

I'd hope not. If he's dealt I'd hope it would be in a deal for a younger top 4 LD.

 

[rangers1314]

No, why would he.

because he’s going to be dealt at some point

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Veleno is projected to get 2 years and $2m per. 100+ hits for three years in a row. 28 points last year and 49% FO. He’d be a good get as 4C and someone who could slide up as needed. Probably tops out as a 3C but that’s useful for what the team needs.

Not many centers available in UFA and he fits the ‘younger’ mandate.



They could overpay a veteran UFA for this season even as long as it’s not multi-year as next offseason they may need the cap. That’s worst case

Veleno and a 2025 #2 for Trouba with $2.5M retained.

 

[GENESISPuck94]

You know who I hope gets a regular shift if Trouba does get traded, Jones. Jones looked good when Trouba was out hurt. I'd like to see what he can do with a regular shift for a full season.

 

[Synergy27]

Copp + 2.5 mil retained on Trouba = 8.125 mil. That's more than Trouba is making. And Copp has 3 years left to Trouba's 2. It's a non-starter.

If we're taking back either Copp or Holl (I'd prefer the latter), there should be nothing retained. If we're retaining, we should get something of actual value back (neither Copp nor Holl).

I agree FWIW. I just don’t see how this happens without something painful included.

Also, Copp fits the lineup and Goodrow’s cap can then be used for a 3D.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

because he’s going to be dealt at some point

Oh. Heard he was going to be used to move up in the draft, never happened. So don't think he's going anywhere.

 

[Harbour Dog]

I know the hope is to get some value back, but really, moving Trouba to free up 5.5M cap space for the next two years is pretty fair value all on its own.

It seems like my trust in this front office is always trending positive. Drury has done an excellent job of identifying roster issues, and being proactive about trying to solve them. No GM is perfect, but there's been a lot more good than bad lately.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I agree FWIW. I just don’t see how this happens without something painful included.

Also, Copp fits the lineup and Goodrow’s cap can then be used for a 3D.

The retention would be the pain.

They aren’t taking on Copp to move Trouba

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

If we’re taking Holl there will be no salary retained

You’re assuming the Rangers don’t value Holl

 

[tlk]

Copp fits the lineup

We couldn't afford him then and can't now.

 

[rangers1314]

Oh. Heard he was going to be used to move up in the draft, never happened. So don't think he's going anywhere.

Eh, I still think it’s outta here. He wants a change.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

Eh, I still think it’s outta here. He wants a change.

Seems a lot like Talbot/Hagelin/Georgiev.
Thought they would be moved during the first and there was lots of chatter but end up going for day 2 picks.

In a vacuum I don’t get it for the NYR who could use Kakko on the roster but seems quite likely he really wants out and has expressed that. Generally GMs try to accommodate that,

 

[rangers1314]

I’d rather keep Trouba than take back Copp for the next 3 years.

 

[DanielBrassard]

You know who I hope gets a regular shift if Trouba does get traded, Jones. Jones looked good when Trouba was out hurt. I'd like to see what he can do with a regular shift for a full season.

Jones would have been given a chance regardless of Trouba being moved or not. They only have 6 NHL defenseman right now with Trouba.

 

[turcotte8]

Eh, I still think it’s outta here. He wants a change.

I think he's gonna be a trade deadline deal, give him part of a season to break out, if not he's gone.

 

[NYR Viper]

Veleno and a 2025 #2 for Trouba with $2.5M retained.

This would be mu guess. Perhaps a 24 2nd + 25 3rd + Veleno

 

[Hire Sather]

Seems a lot like Talbot/Hagelin/Georgiev.
Thought they would be moved during the first and there was lots of chatter but end up going for day 2 picks.

In a vacuum I don’t get it for the NYR who could use Kakko on the roster but seems quite likely he really wants out and has expressed that. Generally GMs try to accommodate that,

Getting a 3rd for Kakko doesn't help the team enough for me.

Just not worth it, better off hoping he can actually do something this year.

I don't care what he wants, he'll have a chance elsewhere one day if it doesn't work here

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

I know the hope is to get some value back, but really, moving Trouba to free up 5.5M cap space for the next two years is pretty fair value all on its own.

It seems like my trust in this front office is always trending positive. Drury has done an excellent job of identifying roster issues, and being proactive about trying to solve them. No GM is perfect, but there's been a lot more good than bad lately.

Extract. Addition by subtraction.

Use the money to get an upgrade at D like Chychurn or Roy or somebody

 

[bouds]

LOL this board is funny. We went from Trouba isn't tradable to wanting a 2nd and a 1st? That would be incredible but Stevie Y isn't going to consider the 1st imo.

Insanity. Clearing up all that cap and eating only 2.5, I’ll drive the guy to the airport myself. I don’t need any other return for moving him, I’ll take a bag of pucks.