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Prospect Info: Rangers Prospects Thread (Updated: 11.25.21)

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Berard on NESN v UMass right now Friars getting dominated have 2 shots on goal after 12 minutes so if he makes it to the show with us he won't be unaccustomed.
 
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Grubbe had an ENG, 6 shots, and was 16/22 on the dot.

Rempe has an assist so far.

Lamb scored a goal.
 
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gravey9 said:
Serious question: How many of Othmann's goals this year have been from flying the zone early and getting a partial/breakaway?

More serious question: How is the rest of his game looking?

The highlights are not enough to have an opinion, but a little concerned that the goals he's scoring aren't translatable.
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Othmann has been Flint's best player for long stretches. You can tell the year of pro hockey gives him a huge advantage playing in the OHL.
 
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nyr2k2 said:
Garand had a 22-save shutout.
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I'm tempering my excitement for him for the time being, but it really is starting to look like we've added another excellent goaltending prospect to the system. He's shown some great puck tracking and athletic ability too in the bits I've seen of Kamloops. I think he's got good odds to be Canada's U20 starter this year since I think Levi will have aged out.
 
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Mac n Gs said:
I'm tempering my excitement for him for the time being, but it really is starting to look like we've added another excellent goaltending prospect to the system. He's shown some great puck tracking and athletic ability too in the bits I've seen of Kamloops. I think he's got good odds to be Canada's U20 starter this year since I think Levi will have aged out.
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He has definitely been good. He's helped by the fact that Kamloops is a juggernaut scoring almost six goals per game. Their GF/GA is 62/23 after 11 games. Crazy. They're an early favorite for the Memorial Cup, though Winnipeg, also in the WHL, is somehow even just a bit better to date.
 
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Harbour Dog said:
A 3% chance of becoming an NHLer is some wacky stuff lol

That's what happens when you put blind faith in a statistical model.
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duhmetreE said:
Using analytics in juniors or anything besides the top leagues seems like a recipe for failure. There are so many variables.

Didn't all scouting services have Othmann 15-25?
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My biggest gripe with this tweet is that this guy is:

1. Using season totals to judge a player
2. Uses a model aimed at juniors for the Swiss League, a rare destination for NA draft eligibles

It's a weird career trajectory to use for these metrics.

Then there's the way his season unfolded Started out with 15 points in 17 games, before going cold with 0 in 13, but his team was 0-4-9 including an 8 game losing streak in those 13 games Once the team recovered, Othmann's production picked up again with 3 points in his final 8

  • 3.18 G/GP during the 11-4-2 streak where he had 15 points
  • 2.76 G/GP during the 4-9-0 streak where he had 0 points
  • 4 G/GP during the 5-1-2 streak where he had 3 points

When you have people relying on models based on season totals and do not take 10-15 minutes to look into how a player actually played, you get flawed narratives. In addition to that: I don't expect a 17-year old draft eligible kid to carry a pro team when they hit a cold streak.

Othmann has been impressive in the OHL and the experience he gained, he's benefiting from. He needs to build on this. Unfortunately, he won't be AHL eligible until 2023-24, so it's another OHL season for him nuless he cracks the team.
 
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Mac n Gs said:
I'm tempering my excitement for (Garand) for the time being, but it really is starting to look like we've added another excellent goaltending prospect to the system. He's shown some great puck tracking and athletic ability too in the bits I've seen of Kamloops. I think he's got good odds to be Canada's U20 starter this year since I think Levi will have aged out.
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and surprisingly some prospect pundits like Boyko even more ...
Boyko is off to crappy start this season,
Talyn Boyko Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com
FYI TriCity is 2d worst team in league
WHL Network
 
To use a model, you need sufficient data. The number og talentet draft eligble players playing 2. Tier in Switzerland in their draft year is close to none pre Othmann. Whatever the model says its a bad speculation with no data.
 
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apoptygma said:
To use a model, you need sufficient data. The number og talentet draft eligble players playing 2. Tier in Switzerland in their draft year is close to none pre Othmann. Whatever the model says its a bad speculation with no data.
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Bingo. You worded it better than I did.
 
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