Prospect Info: Rangers Prospects Thread (Stats in Post #1; Updated 8.7.18)

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Not sure if this is something the Rangers are focusing on, but the past two drafts, they've been taking players who are "young" for their first draft eligible year. Keane was one of those guys. Chytil, Lundkvist, Pajuniemi, Hughes, and Sjalin played or are playing their D+1 season as an 18 year old for what amounts to be the entire season. We heard tons about Chytil last year being only eligible because he was born 3 days before the cutoff. There are quite of few of these guys who fit the same mold.

Pajuniemi was an "overage" player because he missed being a first time draft eligible player by 1 day. Some of these other players were born in late June/early July. Is this something to be thinking about when drafting players moving forward? In comparison, someone like Nolan Patrick was basically a full year older than Chytil. He'll be 20 when the season begins.

With what we know with player development, and player development ending around 24 (in terms of skill development), are we going to see the NHL start going to way of the NBA as the youngest possible players being higher regarded, but less polished?
 
Not sure if this is something the Rangers are focusing on, but the past two drafts, they've been taking players who are "young" for their first draft eligible year. Keane was one of those guys. Chytil, Lundkvist, Pajuniemi, Hughes, and Sjalin played or are playing their D+1 season as an 18 year old for what amounts to be the entire season. We heard tons about Chytil last year being only eligible because he was born 3 days before the cutoff. There are quite of few of these guys who fit the same mold.

Pajuniemi was an "overage" player because he missed being a first time draft eligible player by 1 day. Some of these other players were born in late June/early July. Is this something to be thinking about when drafting players moving forward? In comparison, someone like Nolan Patrick was basically a full year older than Chytil. He'll be 20 when the season begins.

With what we know with player development, and player development ending around 24 (in terms of skill development), are we going to see the NHL start going to way of the NBA as the youngest possible players being higher regarded, but less polished?
IDK if the NHL as a whole will do it, but the Rangers seem to be doing it. Though they've also drafted guys like Crawley, Lakatos, Virta, and Fontaine recently.
 
Lindgren at 25 is low

I have him around the 9-10 mark but the lowest I could be convinced to dropping him to is 15
 
Just done a quick count.

There were six Finnish forwards taken before him in this draft and six more taken in the fourth round or earlier last year.

That Pajuniemi is a favourite to make the WJC roster is a testament to the value we found with that pick.
 
Just done a quick count.

There were six Finnish forwards taken before him in this draft and six more taken in the fourth round or earlier last year.

That Pajuniemi is a favourite to make the WJC roster is a testament to the value we found with that pick.
I feel like the Lindbom pick really started day 2 of the draft off on the wrong foot for a lot of people and attitudes kind of slid downhill from there, but most of the picks they made look a lot better now that everything has kind of settled down
 
Just done a quick count.

There were six Finnish forwards taken before him in this draft and six more taken in the fourth round or earlier last year.

That Pajuniemi is a favourite to make the WJC roster is a testament to the value we found with that pick.

People tend to just label him as an overager but as stated before, he's just 4 days older than Brady Tkachuk
 
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I feel like the Lindbom pick really started day 2 of the draft off on the wrong foot for a lot of people and attitudes kind of slid downhill from there, but most of the picks they made look a lot better now that everything has kind of settled down

i agree with this
Lindbom earned his selection with his performance at Workd U18s, maybe he woulda been around later, maybe not. same with trade up for K.Miller.

to me the only truly curious pick
(tho i don't pretend to be as knowledgeable on the amateur prospects as many folks here) was Kjellberg,
and no biggie, he was just a 6th,
he has height and bloodlines,
he has been progressing to better leagues,
has had some international team selections,
so i wont assume it was purely nepotism
 
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Both Keane and Lundkvist got overtime ice when the benches were shortened.

Lundkvist was playing LD - his offside. Any idea why? Any comments from Sweden coaches or someone else close to Sweden team?
 
Not sure if this is something the Rangers are focusing on, but the past two drafts, they've been taking players who are "young" for their first draft eligible year. Keane was one of those guys. Chytil, Lundkvist, Pajuniemi, Hughes, and Sjalin played or are playing their D+1 season as an 18 year old for what amounts to be the entire season. We heard tons about Chytil last year being only eligible because he was born 3 days before the cutoff. There are quite of few of these guys who fit the same mold.

Pajuniemi was an "overage" player because he missed being a first time draft eligible player by 1 day. Some of these other players were born in late June/early July. Is this something to be thinking about when drafting players moving forward? In comparison, someone like Nolan Patrick was basically a full year older than Chytil. He'll be 20 when the season begins.

With what we know with player development, and player development ending around 24 (in terms of skill development), are we going to see the NHL start going to way of the NBA as the youngest possible players being higher regarded, but less polished?
I think it will stay around the same. They can’t go too young because it’s against the rules in place and most of the kids that age are still developing physically.
 
I feel like the Lindbom pick really started day 2 of the draft off on the wrong foot for a lot of people and attitudes kind of slid downhill from there, but most of the picks they made look a lot better now that everything has kind of settled down
At this point the picks I have issues with are Lindbom, Gross and Kjellberg

The rest are defensible/good picks

But yes them taking Lindbom at 39 took the air out of everyone’s sails
 
At this point the picks I have issues with are Lindbom, Gross and Kjellberg

The rest are defensible/good picks

But yes them taking Lindbom at 39 took the air out of everyone’s sails
That’s fair, those are probably the 3 picks I like the least too, but I’d have Gross on a tier of “meh, I guess” in terms of how much I like it
 
Trading away one of the seconds not getting another one and then picking a goalie with the one we had with all that talent on the board is what pissed people off.

That and passing on Wahlstrom and Dobson. Although there’s nothing not to like about kravstov.
 
Trading away one of the seconds not getting another one and then picking a goalie with the one we had with all that talent on the board is what pissed people off.

That and passing on Wahlstrom and Dobson. Although there’s nothing not to like about kravstov.

Then there's nothing wrong with this. Because if we had picked Wahlstrom, people would cry passed on defenseman Dobson and higher upside Kravtsov.
 
Then there's nothing wrong with this. Because if we had picked Wahlstrom, people would cry passed on defenseman Dobson and higher upside Kravtsov.

Well that and we were always going to be crying about the Isles draft. They were going to have a pick of 2 of Wahlstrom, Dobson, or Kravtsov. They were going to make out like bandits no matter what the Rangers did
 
Well that and we were always going to be crying about the Isles draft. They were going to have a pick of 2 of Wahlstrom, Dobson, or Kravtsov. They were going to make out like bandits no matter what the Rangers did
Yeah, once AZ went off the board it was set for the Isles to grab two top players. It sucks but its not within NYR's control either.
 
Then there's nothing wrong with this. Because if we had picked Wahlstrom, people would cry passed on defenseman Dobson and higher upside Kravtsov.

Maybe one or two people would of complained about Wahlstrom there; that would of been it.

I went back and read the draft GDT last week, and after Chicago's pick, every single person was excited to be getting Wahlstrom. If anything, the board has reacted with surprising maturity in accepting that Kravtsov was an excellent pick and not a reach.
 
Maybe one or two people would of complained about Wahlstrom there; that would of been it.

I went back and read the draft GDT last week, and after Chicago's pick, every single person was excited to be getting Wahlstrom. If anything, the board has reacted with surprising maturity in accepting that Kravtsov was an excellent pick and not a reach.

I think most level headed people understand that there wasn't a defacto top-rated player at that spot and that the tier included maybe 3-5 players there. One of which was Kravtsov. Perhaps people loved Wahlstrom but is he heads and shoulders better than Kravtsov? I don't think so.

I think the other thing working here is that not many people have seen enough of Kravtsov to state anything definitively.
 
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