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Prospect Info: Rangers Prospects Thread (Stats in Post #1; Updated 10.17.18) *Part II*

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Amazing Kreiderman said:
What I find fascinating is that it's used to explain why Mittelstadt is a top-5 prospect in the world but we never hear the same argument for Andersson who had 7 goals in 7 games and was the leader, but in name and with his performance, of the Swedish team that was 2 minutes away from winning the tournament.
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Dangles, man, dangles.
 
I think the debate should be whether we should have taken Rasmussen rather than Andersson, now that is an intriguing prospect with huge size.
 
Ola said:
So are you saying that Mittlestad wouldn’t have produced well in a WJC that was — just as a hypothesis — say 40 games long?

I know that you followed that tournament and you got to agree with me that he played a type of hockey that was very productive and definitely not only ‘flashy’. Right? He simply owned the ice when he was on it.

And I would describe the correlation between scoring at certain levels as shaky at best. High scoring team/low scoring team. Defensive/offensive coach. Role on the team. Stats — can — be affected tremendously by outside factors. Right? And it’s always affected to a large degree.

In addition you can sub-sort scoring into a bunch of fields. Where does it come from. Some areas can be there in the NHL too, others won’t be. And so forth and so forth.

I definitely think Mittlestad will be able to take a — much — higher factor of his scoring to the NHL than the average kid in college. In fact, I would bet my right arm, house and mom on that.

Against that back ground, ie that stats is affected to a large extent by outside factors and that different type of assists and goals in juniors transfer differently well to the NHL — it gets darn cloudy if you look too much at stats.
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It's possible he would produce well in a 40 game WJC, but we don't know for a fact. It's a small sample tournament that has had plenty of weird results over the years (Max Friberg, Sebastian Collberg to name two Swedish guys). He was definitely good at the WJC but there was also a lot of "flash", moves that ended up in the back of the net that don't usually do that for him.

So, what correlates better then scoring then? If the correlation in scoring between Leagues is "shaky at best" then what's better at predicting future success? There's definitely other factors, but to say it's "shaky at best" is just... i dno man... it's not good…

Disagree with your last sentence too. Stats are more clear then the memory of scouts. The best way is to use both obviously.
 
Was Virta playing C or W for Slovan? I know he was mainly a C in Liiga last year, but I still see him as a W if he makes it in North America.
 
Mac n Gs said:
Was Virta playing C or W for Slovan? I know he was mainly a C in Liiga last year, but I still see him as a W if he makes it in North America.
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Joey Bones said:
Could honestly see him more as an Arvidsson type. Tiny with a motor and can score some nice goals.
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I think Virta has that potential, yes. Maybe not a 30-goal scorer in the NHL but he has the skill and potential to be a middle-6 winger in the NHL with his 2-way game. I think his move to Slovan is great for his progression
 
Amazing Kreiderman said:
I think Virta has that potential, yes. Maybe not a 30-goal scorer in the NHL but he has the skill and potential to be a middle-6 winger in the NHL with his 2-way game. I think his move to Slovan is great for his progression
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Obviously the comparison I made is stylistically, but yes I agree otherwise.
 
Amazing Kreiderman said:
That's how we roll in Europe :laugh:
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How does that work, would you say? I always grate at the discussions about defense where only defensemen are discussed. I think this five-man unit idea highlights the point that all five skaters have equal (territorially, at least) defensive responsibility.
 
egelband said:
How does that work, would you say? I always grate at the discussions about defense where only defensemen are discussed. I think this five-man unit idea highlights the point that all five skaters have equal (territorially, at least) defensive responsibility.
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Well, D-pairings don't necessarily go out on the ice with the same F-lines all the time. It depends. But having 4 pairings to me makes more sense. Especially considering ice-time. When you look at hockey in NA, defensemen are sometimes playing 25 minutes a night.
 
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Amazing Kreiderman said:
Well, D-pairings don't necessarily go out on the ice with the same F-lines all the time. It depends. But having 4 pairings to me makes more sense. Especially considering ice-time. When you look at hockey in NA, defensemen are sometimes playing 25 minutes a night.
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Gotcha. Thanks for that.
 
egelband said:
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do they play five- man units? If so, i think that’s brilliant. Makes so much sense.
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It does until you consider that your top pairing dmen only playing 18-19 minutes a game isn't a great idea.
 
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