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I don’t know how you get to conclusion that Strome value is high(er than it should) and Namestnikov is low(er).
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I don’t know how you get to conclusion that Strome value is high(er than it should) and Namestnikov is low(er).
why is his value high? is his shooting % a secret that only we know? you don't think other teams know that too? If you can get a late 1st obviously you do it, but imo the only way that happens is if the 'something else' is worth a late first. strome probably gets you a 3rd or 4th rounder, 2nd rounder at the deadline when teams overpay. aside from kreider I don't think our remaining vets return much in a trade.
if you can get someone to overpay great. but I feel strome is worth more to us as 3RW then in a trade...
but I don't know why i'm defending strome at all cause that wasn't my point...my point was simply that you can't have chytil, howden, anderson and nieves as the only centers behind mika. so if you deal strome who is your depth insurance? If you get something of value for him than names could be the insurance but that idea is probably even more 'yuck'...might be able to sign someone short term but if you sign a guy whos actually a #2 center that guy might play instead of giving chytil a shot which I don't like either...
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Because everything strome put on net seemed to go in...and namestnikov would miss empty nrts last season. I don't feel like either is sustainable
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I don’t think a short term “success” by one vs “underperformance” by the other would have any meaningful impact on trade valuation. In the end I think both might be valued pretty similarly based on on ice related considerations.
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Strome, Namestnikov, Fast, Vesey.
This is the order in which I’d try to keep them largely influenced by ability to play either center or wing position, ability to slide up and down the lineup, FA status and age.
Personally I’d keep at least three to start the season and one or two post-TDL based on progression from our prospects and other moves by FO.
This is the order in which I’d try to keep them largely influenced by ability to play either center or wing position, ability to slide up and down the lineup, FA status and age.
Personally I’d keep at least three to start the season and one or two post-TDL based on progression from our prospects and other moves by FO.
He just might. I think it depends on who is falling to be within striking distance.
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I'd keep all 4 and trade them as they start to fall out favour with young guys coming up.
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I said “at least”.
But seriously I think the Rangers will have bodies to not be concerned about depth at the start of the season and if we are talking about a ratio of market value to value to the Rangers then Vesey is easily the move target for this offseason. His value will not be much higher if at all at TDL.
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Assuming Kreider is traded, Zibanejad, Kakko, Butcher, Chytil, Lias, Vesey, Names, Fast, Strome, Boo, Howden and Lemieux would be 12. Possible rookies are Kravtsov and Vinni, maybe Mess and Gettinger.
Considering injuries and that rookies normally need at least some minor league time, we're a bit short.
If Kreider stays or gets traded for a first and a Lemieux-type, we're ok. If Kreider goes strictly for a pick, we need to some some Pouliot/Grabner-type reclamation.
To expect to trade Names, Vesey and Fast later in the season, we definitely need more players.
The Rangers should sign a couple of AAAA players who can come up along with Vinni once Names, Vesey and Fast get traded.
Considering injuries and that rookies normally need at least some minor league time, we're a bit short.
If Kreider stays or gets traded for a first and a Lemieux-type, we're ok. If Kreider goes strictly for a pick, we need to some some Pouliot/Grabner-type reclamation.
To expect to trade Names, Vesey and Fast later in the season, we definitely need more players.
The Rangers should sign a couple of AAAA players who can come up along with Vinni once Names, Vesey and Fast get traded.
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Brickley, Smith to add, and Kreider definitely will need to be replaced with another lineup ready top6 forward immediately.
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If they really need a NHL body where they are not worried about his development being hurt, why not just use Beleskey?
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Considering that he's been out of NHL for pretty much two full seasons, I'd say he has NHL salary but I'd hesitate to call him NHL body.
Yeah I was joking with my dad months ago about how we'd probably trade Names this offseason and he'd score 25 goals on his next team.
Honestly, I was impressed with him this year. Not many guys can be so effective without scoring. He was consistent, he's one of the few guys on our team with real speed to burn, and he clearly knows how to get himself into positions to score.
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Let nature take its course. That's my preference too. Unless something great falls into Gorton's lap, I'd just sit tight. Would not force anything.
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I've wondered this too but for some reason he is a complete afterthought. My fallback in these cases is 'I guess they know something I don't'.
I agree with that ranking.
I think what you do is figure out your value on each one and ask around. If you get a good offer for Strome (say a late first or early second) and no body will give you more than a 5th for Vesey, you move Strome. If you get a good deal for all four, trade them all. We can find bodies to play, even if it means signing a ufa or two for the 4th line.
It was reported we were working on a deal for him, but he might "stay" for another year. Whether "stay" means in the KHL or somewhere in Europe, who knows. My fear is that he stays in the KHL for another year, really establishes himself, and decides he doesn't want to come over.
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