Prospect Info: Rangers Prospect Thread (Player Stats/Info in Post #1; Updated 9.1.19)

[Harbour Dog]

What is this guys name?

Will Scouch.

 

[EdJovanovski]

I don't agree with everything he says across the board but his evaluations are always well thought out and interesting (hes the only guy who blends analytics with actual scouting.)

@Amazing Kreiderman he may be a good guy to get on the Pod somewhere down the line?

He’s one of the best hockey YouTubers in my opinion, so many of them talk about these prospects in ways that make it painfully obvious they’ve never watched them in their life and just read their eliteprospects page

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

So I have a question, the last couple of years I feel like the picks we made after round 1 were the most promising that I can remember. What changed in terms of our scouting that we seem to do a better job outside of round 1? Or am I just saying that because they haven't had a chance to disappoint?

1) We actually had picks higher than the third round.

2) Elite Prospects - Nickolai Bobrov Team Staff Profile

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Reunanen is a really really good prospect. He had a fantastic season last year. Just busted right out.

I remember always reading @nyr2k2 ’s updates about him when he was in Mestis. At that point, he was a complete longshot, barely anyone gave a shit about him, and it’s crazy to see how far he’s come to this point.

Great pick in the 4th. Bobrov and Gorton could be literal gods if even half of these guys reach their ceiling.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

He’s one of the best hockey YouTubers in my opinion, so many of them talk about these prospects in ways that make it painfully obvious they’ve never watched them in their life and just read their eliteprospects page

Andy Lehoux is great as well. Highly recommend his vids.

NHL Draft Central

 

[SnowblindNYR]

1) We actually had picks higher than the third round.

2) Elite Prospects - Nickolai Bobrov Team Staff Profile

I didn't realize Bobrov joined the team so recently. He didn't find Buch and Igor then.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

So any chance Morgan Barron becomes a 2C for us? Even his biggest fan compared him to a better skating Boyle. I don't think that's a 2C. A great 3C would be homerun where he got picked but any chance he'll be more?

 

[Anzi]

So any chance Morgan Barron becomes a 2C for us? Even his biggest fan compared him to a better skating Boyle. I don't think that's a 2C. A great 3C would be homerun where he got picked but any chance he'll be more?

His PNHLe has him just barely at a 2C level so I'd say there's a chance.

 

[eco's bones]

I remember always reading @nyr2k2 ’s updates about him when he was in Mestis. At that point, he was a complete longshot, barely anyone gave a **** about him, and it’s crazy to see how far he’s come to this point.

Great pick in the 4th. Bobrov and Gorton could be literal gods if even half of these guys reach their ceiling.

He no doubt fell because of his injury issues. The Rangers picking late--picked guys who fell. That year they included Day and Reunanen. The same thing happened in the Buchnevich, Duclair draft--both those guys fell. Reunanan could have been a 1st in his draft year if things had gone as planned for him. I don't have great hopes for Day but Reunanen stuck with it--what a difference it can be when you feel good again. I think he's legit--his problem is all the Left D prospects the Rangers have right now--Miller, Rykov, Hajek, Robertson, Lindgren--that's extremely tough competition.

 

[Rongomania]

He no doubt fell because of his injury issues. The Rangers picking late--picked guys who fell. That year they included Day and Reunanen. The same thing happened in the Buchnevich, Duclair draft--both those guys fell. Reunanan could have been a 1st in his draft year if things had gone as planned for him. I don't have great hopes for Day but Reunanen stuck with it--what a difference it can be when you feel good again. I think he's legit--his problem is all the Left D prospects the Rangers have right now--Miller, Rykov, Hajek, Robertson, Lindgren--that's extremely tough competition.

Not the Rangers problem though. Love the deep competition Gorts & co. have created throughout our prospect ranks. We're going to watch all of the cream rise to the top. Surreal times ...

 

[eco's bones]

Not the Rangers problem though. Love the deep competition Gorts & co. have created throughout our prospect ranks. We're going to watch all of the cream rise to the top. Surreal times ...

A potential problem having such a glut though is not everyone getting a good shot to make it and it might be necessary to move someone on before we really know what we've got.

 

[Stasis]

A potential problem having such a glut though is not everyone getting a good shot to make it and it might be necessary to move someone on before we really know what we've got.

That's also a bit of a worry for me. There's no way we're keeping all of these defensemen, but there's also no real way we can see their potential before having to decide which to move. Some are already separating themselves but we're overloaded. Surprised they kept adding to that pool after Robsertson. I guess they just never want to be in this S-named defensemen position again. Can't blame Gorton there.

Looking forward to seeing what Hajek and Rykov can do this season. Lindgren too, but would seem to be the odd man out for now. Next year potentially adds another 3 guys who can compete for a spot and that's just left side. Got a couple of interesting guys on the right, too.

 

[eco's bones]

That's also a bit of a worry for me. There's no way we're keeping all of these defensemen, but there's also no real way we can see their potential before having to decide which to move. Some are already separating themselves but we're overloaded. Surprised they kept adding to that pool after Robsertson. I guess they just never want to be in this S-named defensemen position again. Can't blame Gorton there.

Looking forward to seeing what Hajek and Rykov can do this season. Lindgren too, but would seem to be the odd man out for now. Next year potentially adds another 3 guys who can compete for a spot and that's just left side. Got a couple of interesting guys on the right, too.

Looks to me that one of Rykov/Hajek/Reunanen is going to come out of training camp and that the other two and Lindgren will be callups. Next year Miller will be on board. Staal will just be in the way at that point. I'm thinking this is Marc's last season as a Ranger. If two guys can cement themselves in our rotation we could think about moving Skjei along then with Robertson entering the picture.

 

[Ola]

A potential problem having such a glut though is not everyone getting a good shot to make it and it might be necessary to move someone on before we really know what we've got.

Yeah, and I also think we must make sure that we have open NHL channels to the NHL team. Kids cannot be expected to force their way through roadblocks in form of established vets to get ice time in the NHL, a lot of the growing also comes once you are in the NHL.

 

[Miamipuck]

So any chance Morgan Barron becomes a 2C for us? Even his biggest fan compared him to a better skating Boyle. I don't think that's a 2C. A great 3C would be homerun where he got picked but any chance he'll be more?

Not a chance in hell.

I haven't watched a single game of his games in college, so I feel I am eminently qualified to answer your good question.

 

[cozandeffect]

So any chance Morgan Barron becomes a 2C for us? Even his biggest fan compared him to a better skating Boyle. I don't think that's a 2C. A great 3C would be homerun where he got picked but any chance he'll be more?

While I think that's the most likely outcome I do think he has a chance of being a 2nd liner. Idk about C or W but he definitely has a chance.

 

[redwhiteandblue]

He no doubt fell because of his injury issues. The Rangers picking late--picked guys who fell. That year they included Day and Reunanen. The same thing happened in the Buchnevich, Duclair draft--both those guys fell. Reunanan could have been a 1st in his draft year if things had gone as planned for him. I don't have great hopes for Day but Reunanen stuck with it--what a difference it can be when you feel good again. I think he's legit--his problem is all the Left D prospects the Rangers have right now--Miller, Rykov, Hajek, Robertson, Lindgren--that's extremely tough competition.

A potential problem having such a glut though is not everyone getting a good shot to make it and it might be necessary to move someone on before we really know what we've got.

I always wonder in a situation what helps steer the ship through times like these. I would assume if they are all looking like coming along around the same time, perhaps keeping a guy like Tarmo and trading a guy like say, Lindgren or Rykov may be of more value. One is a homegrown boom of a boom or bust pick, others were assets you’d be flipping for better value.

I feel like a team may lean towards keeping their own homegrown picks there if the difference is marginal and things are happening almost simultaneously.

 

[UnSandvich]

Of the three, Lindgren is easily my choice to trade, and I'd probably keep Rykov if it was only one of the three

 

[Luger]

Why are we trading players before they show their worth? Do we want to risk a McDonaugh in reverse trade? If Gomez for McDonaugh doesn't happen, the Habs likely make the 2014 SCF, possibly win the Cup that or another season.

If we have too many second pair defensemen and not enough first pair, we can package them later. And what are we trading them for? 1LHD? 1RHD? 1C? 2LW? We don't even know what we will need.

 

[eco's bones]

I always wonder in a situation what helps steer the ship through times like these. I would assume if they are all looking like coming along around the same time, perhaps keeping a guy like Tarmo and trading a guy like say, Lindgren or Rykov may be of more value. One is a homegrown boom of a boom or bust pick, others were assets you’d be flipping for better value.

I feel like a team may lean towards keeping their own homegrown picks there if the difference is marginal and things are happening almost simultaneously.

If I were to guess Lindgren will move and maybe this year--he has a physical quality about him though that some of the others don't. I think Miller is the major keeper on the left side--he is a physical freak. If two of Rykov, Hajek and Reunanen hit it that could make Skjei expendable and Skjei's a really good player. And then we'll still have Robertson and others coming along. Rangers could have one of the best D's in the league in 3 or 4 years.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

If I were to guess Lindgren will move and maybe this year--he has a physical quality about him though that some of the others don't. I think Miller is the major keeper on the left side--he is a physical freak. If two of Rykov, Hajek and Reunanen hit it that could make Skjei expendable and Skjei's a really good player. And then we'll still have Robertson and others coming along. Rangers could have one of the best D's in the league in 3 or 4 years.

I just hope we end up keeping the best ones and not trade people we regret trading.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

I just hope we end up keeping the best ones and not trade people we regret trading.

Money to keep them will factor into who gets kept too

 

[eco's bones]

I just hope we end up keeping the best ones and not trade people we regret trading.

There's that but the other thing is what you get back for them. If the return is good it makes it easier to live with trading a player who excels somewhere else. The preseason is going to be interesting watching how the Rangers split the games up among the D. 6 games almost don't seem enough. Just looking at the left side--Skjei and Staal are at least going to play 2 games each and then you have 14 slots to split up between Smith (if he's still around and fighting for a job), Rykov, Hajek, Reunanen, Lindgren and Robertson. On the right side there's Trouba, Shattenkirk, Fox, DeAngelo and maybe Keane.

 

[Edge]

So any chance Morgan Barron becomes a 2C for us? Even his biggest fan compared him to a better skating Boyle. I don't think that's a 2C. A great 3C would be homerun where he got picked but any chance he'll be more?

I like what Barron has done, but I still don't feel like I'm looking at a second line player, or a center at the NHL level.

I see a kid who checks off as good to very good across the board, and who is definitely providing excellent value for where he was drafted. Do I see a dynamic offensive player who slots into a top six role in the best league in the world? Eh, not really feeling that.

I can see Barron being a kid who the board focuses on, and having a few evangelists who really like him, but also a player for whom we potentially raise the expectations a little too high.

 

[True Blue]

Of the three, Lindgren is easily my choice to trade, and I'd probably keep Rykov if it was only one of the three

He is my choice to keep as his game compliments what our current defensemen lack.