Prospect Info: Rangers Prospect Thread (Player Stats/Info in Post #1; Updated 9.1.19)

[Ola]

How long before we have to sign him? Is it 4 more years?

 

[Blue Blooded]

How long before we have to sign him? Is it 4 more years?

Good question, I sometimes have a hard time sleeping worrying about whether we'll lose Kjellberg's rights.

 

[Ola]

In short, got a concussion the second game of the season, missed 11 weeks. Tough period, but feels good to be back. Was hyped about training with Benny. Will fight hard to win a spot in the U20 WJCs.

 

[Thirty One]

How long before we have to sign him? Is it 4 more years?

I believe he can opt for UFA status three years from now on August 15th.

 

[Ola]

need dislike button

Not to be an alarmist or put a big negative spin on this, so don’t get this wrong, but it was a little disappointing for me. He was a big part of their U18 team and I definitely had him slotted on the U20 team. There are some guys on that roster who I thought Aaltonen definitely had a step on. I feel that it’s a bit of a snub by their coach — which always is disappointing when it happens to one of your players. JMHO.

Biggest thing for me is that their coach obviously doesn’t see him as a primary depth option, and that is where — I — see his future, kind of like and Arvidsson/Hagelin type. He has that type of wheels.

 

[Blue Blooded]

Not to be an alarmist or put a big negative spin on this, so don’t get this wrong, but it was a little disappointing for me. He was a big part of their U18 team and I definitely had him slotted on the U20 team. There are some guys on that roster who I thought Aaltonen definitely had a step on. I feel that it’s a bit of a snub by their coach — which always is disappointing when it happens to one of your players. JMHO.

Biggest thing for me is that their coach obviously doesn’t see him as a primary depth option, and that is where — I — see his future, kind of like and Arvidsson/Hagelin type. He has that type of wheels.

I get your point, but Arvidsson and Hagelin are/were top line wingers at their peak. Jason Chimera is the guy who comes to mind when I think "depth player with sick wheels".

Not going to let anyone slander my boy Carl.

 

[Joey Bones]

Summer showcase starts on the 26th!! Finally some hockey!!

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

How long before we have to sign him? Is it 4 more years?

An NCAA player's rights are retained until the player turns pro or until he finishes his senior year. In some cases, the player spends a year in minor junior hockey before going to college. Steven Fogarty is an example. They retained his rights for a total of 5 years because of this

 

[Fitzy]

RPI is almost as bad as my Saints have been. Almost.

 

[Irishguy42]

RPI is almost as bad as my Saints have been. Almost.

We'll race you to the bottom of the national standings this season, no doubt.

 

[bobbop]

So you're saying, there's a chance?

(Asking for a friend)

 

[Miamipuck]

How long before we have to sign him? Is it 4 more years?

Half a century or his first goal, whichever comes first. Probably the former.

 

[nyr2k2]

Retention of NCAA player rights is tricky and nuanced. For instance, a regular college player who goes directly to school in his D+1 year, the team that drafted him will generally have his rights until August 15 of the year his class graduates.

However, guys that do the "gap" year of USHL or Junior A after being drafted, they can state that they are done with college after three years and declare themselves free agents. There's some other nuance to this that changed in the last CBA, and whether you become a free agent on June 1 or August 15 is also dictated by a bunch of convoluted language.

Or, "gap" guys can stay enrolled for four years, and the team that drafted them will retain their rights until August 15 of the year their class graduates, essentially five years after being drafted.

There are some other scenarios I'm leaving out like being a regular D+1 enrollee but declaring you're done before January 1 of your senior year, what "graduating class" means and how it can change, etc. But the answer for Kjellberg is almost certainly that we will retain his rights until August 15 after his class graduates.

 

[Harbour Dog]

If we define WPG's PP1 as "whenever Mark Scheifele is on the ice" we can compare how well the unit performed with Trouba vs Byfuglien.

With Byfuglien: 116.63 CF/60, 8.01 xGF/60, 10.16 GF/60
With Trouba: 99.89 CF/60, 7.85 xGF/60, 7.06 GF/60

WPG's powerplay was significantly better with Byfuglien as the QB.

Now I agree that Trouba is far from a terrible option on the PP, he can definitely be part of an effective unit, but when we have two of the best PPQBs in the league in DeAngelo and Shattenkirk he shouldn't be playing over them just because he is our designated #1D. I hated when AV played McD over Yandle on the PP despite the latter being a far superior PPQB.

Not to argue against your point, but I definitely wouldn't say those numbers demonstrate that WPG's PP was significantly better with Byfuglien in place of Trouba.

It looks more like it was slightly better, and a lot luckier.

 

[darko]

I'm a big believer in starting strength training very early in your life. Like when you are 12 or 13.

 

[Leetch3]

So you're saying, there's a chance?

(Asking for a friend)

my expectations right now are set at 'at least we can be disappointed first hand with tweets in english without needing google translate'

 

[RGY]

I'm a big believer in starting strength training very early in your life. Like when you are 12 or 13.

Well Nils kinda looks like he is 12

 

[Ola]

I'm a big believer in starting strength training very early in your life. Like when you are 12 or 13.

Recent extensive research in Sweden shows that kids benefit a lot from strength training even from when they are 7-8. Moreover, the kids that are behind benefit the most. They have up to 30% growth potential. Before it was believed that kids couldn’t really build muscles but that he been rebutted.

 

[Chytilmania]

I'm a big believer in starting strength training very early in your life. Like when you are 12 or 13.

I have a client who is 13 and plays hockey and we started last year when he was 12. Put 50 lbs on and his coaches started noticing him more.

 

[Kovalev27]

Pp1

Kreider

Panarin. Buchnevich Mika

Trouba


Pp2

Chytil

DeAngelo. Kravtsov Kakko

Fox

My guess

 

[cozandeffect]

We'll race you to the bottom of the national standings this season, no doubt.

I doubt it. Owen Savory is annoyingly good. He might be good enough to keep you in the mix for a home series by himself.

 

[Irishguy42]

I doubt it. Owen Savory is annoyingly good. He might be good enough to keep you in the mix for a home series by himself.

Put some RESPECT on the name.

It's "Lord and Savior Owen Savory," thank you very much.

 

[Mikos87]

My ideal PP units would be this:

Panarin-Lias-Kakko
Kravtsov-DeAngelo

Zibanejad-Chytil-Buchnevich
Howden-Shattenkirk

For me it's the 1-3-1. Heavy focus on lefty righty passing options.

Kreider​

Panarin-Zib-Kakko

Fox

Chytil​

DeAngelo-Strome-Buch

Trouba​

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

For me it's the 1-3-1. Heavy focus on lefty righty passing options.

Kreider​

Panarin-Zib-Kakko

Fox

Chytil​

DeAngelo-Strome-Buch

Trouba​

I do not expect Kreider to be on the team though. And I am not sure Chytil has the ability to screen on the PP. He would be better on the side

 

[RangerBoy]