Think it may be time to pull the plug on hope that he is a prospect.Lindbum, hot off his astonishing 18-save shutout, allowed 4 goals on 13 shots and was pulled after the first period.
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The last time he did anything objectively good was 17-18 in some U18 international competitions. Otherwise, he has been injured a ton and his play has ranged from mediocre to bad.
The only reason to hold out hope is that he's still 20, and goalies have been known to randomly put it together closer to their mid-20s.
For all the jokes I make at his expense, I do actually root for the kid. Just like any other NYR prospect. Unfortunately I don't see much there (and I have actually watched several of his games to this point).
What a garbage pick. And all of us knew it at the time too.
Disagree. All of us were against a goalie being picked. There is a difference.
Just look at the awful picks ups from the trash heap....Rooney, Blackwell......how could the scouts have advised on these guys.
And the drafting? I mean forget it. How could they have traded up to draft Miller and Schnieder? Or draft someone defenseman named Lundkvist? Taking Chytil later on in the first? What a mistake.
Same scouts that stupidly suggested to trade for Lindren.
This team's scouting is just not very good at all.
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Picking a goalie was the real crime, not necessarily picking Lindbom
Same thing. Garbage to pick a goalie at that spot and obviously he is a garbage prospect. same crap
and Lindbom is a goalie (and not a good one) so yes a garbage pick anyway you look at it in the second round
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Yes but Lindbom being the highest drafted goalie that year made sense on the day, with how he progressed during the season with a really strong u18 WJC
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If the Lindbom pick is the final lesson we needed to stop taking goalies that early, then I'm glad we made it.
But I'm sure we'll keep considering goalies in the second round for some unknown reason.
Even Garand, who is a good prospect (and was a borderline okay pick in that range depending on who you ask), was immediately passed off as Canada's starter by a guy taken in the 7th round, about 120 picks later. And it wasn't a surprise.
It would just be nice to stop being one of the first teams to take a goalie every draft. It's a poor strategy.
But I'm sure we'll keep considering goalies in the second round for some unknown reason.
Even Garand, who is a good prospect (and was a borderline okay pick in that range depending on who you ask), was immediately passed off as Canada's starter by a guy taken in the 7th round, about 120 picks later. And it wasn't a surprise.
It would just be nice to stop being one of the first teams to take a goalie every draft. It's a poor strategy.
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Meh, I suspect that if you averaged all the team's rankings, Lindbom would have been outside the top3 of goalies.
Annunen, Skarek, and Dostal all immediately come to mind.
This organization I feel like has these head scratcher high round goalie picks every handful of years to keep Allaire happy. Remember Lafleur? I think that was his name.
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Annunen and Dostal were the better goalies IMO that year, but every year you see players climb the rankings late. Kravtsov and Chytil are great examples.
Had we drafted Annunen or Dostal, I still would not have been happy.
Good memory! Yep Antoine Lafleur. That draft makes me sad. Alexei could have been terrific on Broadway especially since we had decent teams when he would have hit his peak.
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My point is that NHL teams front offices are scared of losing a trade to the point it makes them trade averse altogether. Obviously the higher the profile - this risk is higher. There are rarely trades of top caliber for top caliber player developed players either, not just prospects.
I mean I figured we'd take a goalie and Skarek was my guy. He's not anything great so I can't totally kill the team for picking Lindbum. It's not the player that upsets me, but the position. Although--I don't like putting so much emphasis on international competition.
Garand was a pick much closer to where I'd like to see us take goalies, and was actually a player I liked.
Still, I'd prefer we stick to the 6th and 7th, and the UDFA market.
Garand was a pick much closer to where I'd like to see us take goalies, and was actually a player I liked.
Still, I'd prefer we stick to the 6th and 7th, and the UDFA market.
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Yes, and this is mostly because I feel you have other positions that are much harder to fill late in the draft. Forwards are a premium every year. Use your high picks on those unless there is a defenseman that really stands out. Defensemen you can usually get in the 2nd and 3rd round. Goalies shouldn't go before the 5th round IMO but I can live with a 4th rounder being used for one.
2nd round pick? Never.
Right. Just look at our fifth round the past few drafts--Berard, Vierling, Pajuniemi, Gettinger. I think there's a good chance at least one of those guys becomes an NHL regular and a reasonable chance two or more make it. If any of them were to really pan out in the "home run" sense? At least for the first three on that list, they'd be more valuable than a goalie who panned out similarly. IMO, anyway.
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And even if you cannot find a starting goalie, you trade for one. Their value on the trade market is nothing compared to other positions
If they didn’t learn the lesson after Brandon Halverson then I don’t know why they’d learn it now
That may be. But outside the top-5, I would grab a Wallstedt this year and not look back.
Don't think that it has to do with keeping Allaire happy. Would he have been my choice that year? No. But he was putting up good numbers.
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I like Wallstedt but I would never use a 1st rounder on a goalie. If we end up with a pick in the 6-10 range, pick your favourite center
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