Confirmed with Link: Rangers Hire Peter Laviolette as Head Coach, Assistants Michael Peca & Dan Muse

some agree, some disagree
need more out of everybody, obv
in general too much deference to vets
play the entire kid line as a proven unit mo mins
Kreider + Zib + whoever works = 2nd line
bread to 3rd line

agree roster changes are needed
but we likely need a step backward to go a step forward
break up the kid line. They need to be scattered throughout the lineup

Panarin Zibs Kakko
Kreider Chytil ?????
Laffy Trocheck ?????

We need middle 6 RWers. Does Othmann make the team out of camp? Who are we signing? Othmann and Engvall would be preferred but I never get what I want.
 
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Definitely not super exciting and have questions about it overall but I can also see some positives. He’s not my least preferred pick out of the rumored names, that’s for sure.

My biggest beef remains with Drury and his overall vision setting, decision making, and overall track record. But this isn’t the thread.

I 100% do believe the Rangers under GG were less than the sum of their parts. I do believe that they can play better 5 on 5 with better tactics and structure which is a huge weakness of GG. Does Lavi actually “get it”? Will be be able to get the vets to buy in? I’m skeptical but it’s possible. It wasn’t possible under GG.
I mean last year the team was better than the sum of the parts and we went to the ecf so who's actually to blame i guess, not saying it wasn't time but the players in this organization seem to not have to share much blame in how they play. Imo the only difference between this year and last was that the kids didn't catch fire and still the star players were mia. Gallant had to go but how many coaches are we gonna go through til we figure out that the star players might not be the right ones.
 
break up the kid line. They need to be scattered throughout the lineup

Panarin Zibs Kakko
Kreider Chytil ?????
Laffy Trocheck ?????

We need middle 6 RWers. Does Othmann make the team out of camp? Who are we signing? Othmann and Engvall would be preferred but I never get what I want.
Respectfully no
this tea has little enuf chemistry as it is and you want to break up the only fully functional line we have [as to all 3 Fs being cohesive}?
Sorry no
 
break up the kid line. They need to be scattered throughout the lineup

Panarin Zibs Kakko
Kreider Chytil ?????
Laffy Trocheck ?????

We need middle 6 RWers. Does Othmann make the team out of camp? Who are we signing? Othmann and Engvall would be preferred but I never get what I want.

Goodrow sent out.

Sign Vlad to a 3 year contract. If possible, sign Kane and LTIR him. Let Othmann start in 3RW. 4th line of Cuylle-???-Vesey.

I think you can bridge Lafreniere on a reasonable AAV. I am uncertain with Miller. He can be polarizing at times. Extremely polarizing. But his raw size and ability makes you want to extend him longterm on a lower AAV and hope it becomes a bargain with time. The other side of it is you can get steady defense from Mikkola for half the yearly AAV that Miller will cost and then a veteran LHD on the cheap to compete with/push Zac Jones. You trade Miller for a 1st round pick + +, recouping assets. You prefer that 1st rounder to be in this draft.
 
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Did anyone share this article yet? Looks like it’s gonna be more of the same under Lavi
 
While it’s a very uninspiring, blah hire Lav is an established coach with tons of experience. He shouldn’t have a problem with the media, pressure, etc. which is always large part the decision making in this market. And of course - he’s got a Cup, albeit almost two decades ago.

This team needed a new voice - how different that voice is and how (and if) it is received remains to be seen.

I personally see this roster as very skilled, but also unique in that it has a lot of introspective, intelligent players.

I think there’s a fine line you have to walk with that type of core (of being tuned out like Gallant) and finding the right leader/voice/taskmaster to galvanize them is a challenge.

With that said I’m not sure how you easily quantify the affect a coach has on a roster. It’s similar to a goalie in the playoffs. You don’t need a great one to win but if you do you have a better chance. Considering what was available this summer, you weren’t getting a Cooper, Blake, Arbour or Bowman.

I will say that I’m not expecting much to change in all areas including how the youth are treated.

The hope is Drury and the scouting staff have done their homework and identified what this team needs both emotionally and from a systems standpoint.

But the fact that it took so long to make this official makes me pause on the confidence level of this management group.

Personally I think Drury wants to pull more strings with the roster, imparting more analytic and game decisions and Lav had to agree to it. Gallant never was that type and it’s the reason they butted heads and he lasted only two seasons.

As usual, with any move - We’ll see how it goes. Who the hell knows anymore
 
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Did anyone share this article yet? Looks like it’s gonna be more of the same under Lavi
It has been stated before that lavy has not been good for young players as a coach but people want to point to philly and Nashville and not at the past 4 years but rather his entire tenure.

im done with my bitching about him.. Im hoping for one thing but expecting the opposite. Let’s see what happens bc he is our coach now and let’s hope for the best
 
I’m fairness, those young kids on the Caps are very meh. You’re talking about two late first round picks who are nice players at best and a third rounder.

I am not enthused by this hire but I’m not going to jump off a bridge because Laviolette didn’t play those kids. I’ll wait and see what he does with our kids who are both much more established and just better than those Caps kids.
 
I'm not that bothered by this because it was the most obvious choice from the beginning. I don't know much about him. Do his teams have an "identity" that we can expect here or is it just going to be the same stuff with a new face?

His number one mandate should be to get 60 points out of both Kakko and Lafreniere. Accomplish that and all other good things will follow.
 
I’m fairness, those young kids on the Caps are very meh. You’re talking about two late first round picks who are nice players at best and a third rounder.

I am not enthused by this hire but I’m not going to jump off a bridge because Laviolette didn’t play those kids. I’ll wait and see what he does with our kids who are both much more established and just better than those Caps kids.
He had Giroux, Simmonds, Voraceck playing well. He had Richard's and Carter when they were 24-25.

Hopefully, he gets Laf, Kakko, and Chytil going and plugs Othmann and Cuylle in.

He has no excuse here, there's a handful of highly regarded young players. If he pulls a Gallant and shoves scrubs into the top 6 instead, then Drury and him deserve to be axed before the halfway point of the season.
 
Yea he was and it didn’t work out. Hiring Laviolette we might as well have kept Gallant. What has Lavi done lately? And don’t give me the cup in Carolina that was almost 20 years ago.
He went to another cup just 6 years ago. How many head coaches have won a cup and gone to 2 other cups? How many went to the cup finals with 3 different teams? Did David Quinn? Did Gallant? How many coaches have won 785 games? That is not a good enough record but you want a head coach with no record?
 
Some choice excerpts from a recent article: Why Peter Laviolette Is a Good Fit as the Rangers' Next Head Coach








Basically, Gallant tried to make us dump and chase and we aren't built that way. The author thinks Laviolette will try and get the team to be more of a rush offense but it will be an uphill battle since our defenders, other than Fox, don't really play that way and we are so bad at exiting our defensive zone.
I have hope that basically the same roster is capable of playing a different style.

Just look at the Rangers when AV came in after Torts. Basically the same roster that under Torts was an off the glass and out team became arguably the fastest team in the league and excelled at creating rush chances and counter punch chances. A D core of McDonagh, Girardi, Staal, Stralman, Klein and John Moore were able to be the puck movers for this style.

This team is capable of playing fast even if they're not made of burners all over the lineup and elite puck movers on the back end. It's all about the structure and system in place, we just have to hope Lavy can get them playing the right way and there is reason to be hopeful based on how his previous teams have played.

This whole situation actually is eerily reminiscent of Torts -> AV a decade ago, very similar situations and circumstances. Also, btw I can't believe it's already been a decade.
 
He went to another cup just 6 years ago. How many head coaches have won a cup and gone to 2 other cups? How many went to the cup finals with 3 different teams? Did David Quinn? Did Gallant? How many coaches have won 785 games? That is not a good enough record but you want a head coach with no record?
He doesn’t change anything or make this team better. What the f*** is your loyalty to Laviolette anyway?
 
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He doesn’t change anything or make this team better. What the f*** is your loyalty to Laviolette anyway?
You have already determined how he coaches the Rangers after 6 hours?

Im supporting him because he is the Rangers coach. He will have my support until he does something to lose it. Is that wrong? Should I call for him to be fired before he even gets introduced?
 
He doesn’t change anything or make this team better. What the f*** is your loyalty to Laviolette anyway?
It's kind of like how I felt about Sammy Blais after the Buch trade. It sucks, but it's not like the guy traded for himself.

Lavy didn't put this roster together, and if he ultimately fails it's probably not all on him, even if I'm almost the polar opposite of excited
 
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You have already determined how he coaches the Rangers after 6 hours?

Im supporting him because he is the Rangers coach. He will have my support until he does something to lose it. Is that wrong? Should I call for him to be fired before he even gets introduced?
You shouldn’t blindly support a bad hire. And btw you might want to take the NYR 2023 Cup Champs thing off your profile cause spoiler alert: We lost yet again it’s what this organization does.

It's kind of like how I felt about Sammy Blais after the Buch trade. It sucks, but it's not like the guy traded for himself.

Lavy didn't put this roster together, and if he ultimately fails it's probably not all on him, even if I'm almost the polar opposite of excited
No it won’t be all his fault but he doesn’t improve the team either. Expect more of the same.
 
Serious question did any of those players bloom under a different coach or were they simply not great players?
Protas is having a good playoffs, the other 2 not so much.
McMichael looked like a he should be a good prospect but he really isn't looking like much even at the AHL level right now I'm not sure you can blame Lavy for that.

Lavy may be shit at handling young players, but I don't think that article gives any real info
 

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