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Speculation: Rangers Head Coach Search (Laviolette being finalized? According to Vince and Friedman)

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I Eat Crow said:
This is what I've been saying all along.

Wholesale changes to the core of this roster are needed but both Drury and Gorton share the blame for giving out all of these NMC's like candy.

Who knows what was said in exit meetings, but what shocked me more was that this was news to Drury and that he only fired Gallant after the exit meetings occurred despite no plans to move on from him beforehand (allegedly). Like, dude, it's your job to know the pulse of your team and what's going on in the locker room.

It is what it is at this point. This next coach has two years to win with this group. We're stuck with them until the NMC's become NTC's and Panarin's contract runs out. Just get me Cooper in 2025 and I'll be happy.
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Gallant was clearly not the guy. When players say, he’s the issue, when the team didn’t play hard for him, that signals it’s the coach.
The clear favoritism for guys like Panarin and Kreider over the kids was pretty blatant.
Kreider did more coaching this season than gallant.
 
I Eat Crow said:
This is what I've been saying all along.

Wholesale changes to the core of this roster are needed but both Drury and Gorton share the blame for giving out all of these NMC's like candy.

Who knows what was said in exit meetings, but what shocked me more was that this was news to Drury and that he only fired Gallant after the exit meetings occurred despite no plans to move on from him beforehand (allegedly). Like, dude, it's your job to know the pulse of your team and what's going on in the locker room.

It is what it is at this point. This next coach has two years to win with this group. We're stuck with them until the NMC's become NTC's and Panarin's contract runs out. Just get me Cooper in 2025 and I'll be happy.
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You know I’m as die hard as they come but if they hire the bald headed chrome dome loser, or Lavi, I might just take a back seat in rooting for this team until the next coach is fired and Drury is arrested and prosecuted by @EdJovanovski
 
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Drury probably just saving Knobby in Hartford for his next GM gig lol. Poach him out of our system instead of just giving him the shot now. Someone mentioned it earlier it, but he did exactly what we wanted out of a coach in Hartford this year.

Cmon!
 
IDvsEGO said:
I think the biggest part of this is that gallant clearly had guys who could do no wrong.
Strome was clearly hurt last playoff in the tb series and yet he wasn’t out, and then they sat Kakko, who was one of our best forwards at controlling play that series.
Gallant loved his bottom 6 “glue” guys who can’t control shit.
I don’t have any good answer for a coach, because I don’t love lavi and hynes is a potential disaster.
At least lavi won a Stanley cup, but his run in Washington was disappointing and would be the opposite of what we want in ny with regards to playing the kids.


That would end any love for the rangers I have.
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I do think that not many coaches were going to get much out of Washington at that point...injuries and aging stars without a lot of young talent to fill the holes.

I also think it's still far less about having the exact type of players for some specific system and more about those players needing to know how to play the system they're expected to.

Again, Gallant wanted them to play a get it deep and forecheck system and at times even Panarin would try it but they never looked like a team that knew how to actually play that style and in the end it seems to be because Gallant wanted to let the players play it their way instead of coaching them on the X's and O's of what they should be doing.

and like, sure, players know how to play different things but if the overachign structure is just "get it deep and forecheck I don't care about the details of how you do it just do it" then you get the kind of incoherent mess we've seen recently
 
IDvsEGO said:
Gallant was clearly not the guy. When players say, he’s the issue, when the team didn’t play hard for him, that signals it’s the coach.
The clear favoritism for guys like Panarin and Kreider over the kids was pretty blatant.
Kreider did more coaching this season than gallant.
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Then what was all this bullshit about Gallant being a player’s coach and the team loves to play for him?
 
IDvsEGO said:
Gallant was clearly not the guy. When players say, he’s the issue, when the team didn’t play hard for him, that signals it’s the coach.
The clear favoritism for guys like Panarin and Kreider over the kids was pretty blatant.
Kreider did more coaching this season than gallant.
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I'd agree with you if this wasn't the third coach in three years for this core of players. At some point it's not the coach anymore. The inmates have been running the asylum since AV was canned.
 
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Savant said:
So grandstanding aside, the positive is not that Roy will shred guys. It’s that he has the credibility to shred guys. Anyone can yell. He’s a cup winner/first ballot hall of gamer. The message hits differently when it’s coming from a guy like that
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No it doesn't. A player's hockey career has nothing to say about their ability to coach or inspire. Shouting/loudness is a poor substitute for brains and talent.
 
CLW said:
No it doesn't. A player's hockey career has nothing to say about their ability to coach or inspire. Shouting/loudness is a poor substitute for brains and talent.
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That’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying the person the message comes from matters
 
duhmetreE said:
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we're really going with Lavi or Hynes.... wow

Leach better be the guy or we riot.
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Omf, like what the F is Drury doing. Roy should atleast get an interview. I'm pretty much done with Drury, who has he interviewed? Just two guys?
 
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I Eat Crow said:
I'd agree with you if this wasn't the third coach in three years for this core of players. At some point it's not the coach anymore. The inmates have been running the asylum since AV was canned.
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How's that old coaching saying go, "it's not the X's and O's, it's the Jimmy's and Joe's".
 
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When Drury was hired I kinda got excited in that we were getting a young, up-and-coming executive that other teams coveted.

An intelligent hockey guy who would be more progressive in his approach, both on and off the ice and at the draft table.

You look at some of the moves and signings he's made. Some duds and mis-steps including the Blais deal and Kane to name a couple. His coaching hire lasts two seasons after back to back playoff appearances.

No name yet, but if its a move for Laviolette or Hynes there is nothing progressive or out of the ordinary from Drury that separates himself from the run of the mill GM
 
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HockeyBasedNYC said:
When Drury was hired I kinda got excited in that we were getting a young, up-and-coming executive that other teams coveted.

An intelligent hockey guy who would be more progressive in his approach, both on and off the ice and at the draft table.

You look at some of the moves and signings he's made. Some duds and mis-steps including the Blais deal and Kane to name a couple. His coaching hire lasts two seasons after back to back playoff appearances.

No name yet, but if its a move for Laviolette or Hynes there is nothing progressive or out of the ordinary from Drury that separates himself from the run of the mill GM
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He's just a puppet for Sather anyway. Everything he's done has been like watching a replay of Sather's years as GM here.
 
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Glen Sathers Cigar said:
The timing on both of Drury's coaching hires have been rough despite it being the right move to fire both of the coaches. The summer Quinn was fired the coaching pool was dogshit and now this summer, same thing.

The summer in between though there were like 3-4 guys available who would instantly be the best available right now. Montgomery, Cassidy and Deboer were all available and for sure better candidates. Trotz was also recently fired. Even Torts would be higher up for me than Laviolette or Hynes.

Don't get it twisted though, firing Gallant was the right move. He was unwilling or unable to adjust, it was clear his 'system' wasn't working and reportedly from the exit interviews he had lost the room.
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If this is true & I am certainly NOT saying it isn't.

Isn't Knoblauch your man?
 
HockeyBasedNYC said:
When Drury was hired I kinda got excited in that we were getting a young, up-and-coming executive that other teams coveted.

An intelligent hockey guy who would be more progressive in his approach, both on and off the ice and at the draft table.

You look at some of the moves and signings he's made. Some duds and mis-steps including the Blais deal and Kane to name a couple. His coaching hire lasts two seasons after back to back playoff appearances.

No name yet, but if its a move for Laviolette or Hynes there is nothing progressive or out of the ordinary from Drury that separates himself from the run of the mill GM
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At least u had hope for him. I have despised him since we signed him as a player. He had train wreck written all over him as GM.

I never got why he wasnt fired along with JD and Gorts. I mean he was the AGM so if dolan/slats had problems with team construction to begin with, well Drury was part of that problem.

I hated the gorts and JD firing then, but hated Drury remaining and promotion 10x more.

This man has failed more on every level from player to management while being part of the organization. Its truly incredible how he still has a job.
 
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Call me crazy (or worse) but if he hadn’t been coach of the Rangers several years back, I swear Vingexult would seem to be a pretty fair match for the personnel that we have. Plus Trouba would probably ask to be traded which may or may not be a good thing.
 
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