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Speculation: Rangers Head Coach Search (Laviolette being finalized? According to Vince and Friedman)

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I'd also say that while I think Hynes is probably a crap hire I don't think he had a ton to work with in Nashville either and Trotz saying they want to become a more offensive oriented team is maybe wishful thinking at this point.
And Lavy used to be a balls out attacking offensive minded coach. Dunno how he's been coaching lately though
 
Levitate said:
I'd feel a lot better with Gorton and JD at the helm but I do think it's true they were too cautious in trying to spin up this team as a playoff contender and that's a huge reason they got fired. They could have made more of the moves to get this team moving in that direction early and not have been selling the farm or rushing things but were just way too cautious even after going out and signing Panarin and all that

Anyways, I also think saying "they fired Gallant without a plan!" is dumb to say. I dont' think many teams really go out and already have a new head coach picked out at this point. If they really wanted one of the guys who has already been hired they'd have pushed harder to get them.
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Jd and gorton also hired Quinn, and Quinn was terrible.
I don’t disagree that there aren’t any great coaching options, but gallant had to go. That was clear, he lost the room, the players didn’t wanna fight to win, and that’s not something that can be fixed.

Do I think drury is a great gm? Nope, but when you look at the deadline moves he’s made in two consecutive seasons (ignoring the Kane trade) it’s clear he can realistically evaluate the holes on the team. He doesn’t overvalue players, he’s both conservative (doesn’t overpay) and moved decisively.

I exclude Kane because I think all reports have basically said that was forced on him.
 
Bacon Artemi Bravo said:
I think this may have been the case 10 years or so ago. He's definitely grown up and matured a bit. Last nights interviews really represent that well. Couldn't sense ego from him at all. He's a passionate guy and a competetor. Of course he has confidence but I think he's changed for the better.
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It’s pretty much always been the case. I wouldn’t count on someone drastically changing personality at this point based on a very limited view into his mindset.
 
The Crypto Guy said:
You’ve seen the 2 choices that are pretty much up for the spot right?
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No one knows who is up for the spot. Conflicting reports left and right. All we know is that no less than 4 guys have interviewed, with a 5th who likely got an interview cause he is in the Org already. (Knoblauch)
 
IDvsEGO said:
Jd and gorton also hired Quinn, and Quinn was terrible.
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Less so than hiring him and moreso that they were indicating they wanted to keep him on another year regardless.
I don't totally mind they took a swing at a developmental coach but what also muddied the waters there was having guys like Panarin and Strome running the show and chafing at Quinn's micromanaging, but all that falls back on the guys who hired the coach and signed the players.
IDvsEGO said:
I don’t disagree that there aren’t any great coaching options, but gallant had to go. That was clear, he lost the room, the players didn’t wanna fight to win, and that’s not something that can be fixed.
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Yeah and if we can believe the beat reporters, Gallant being let go was at least in part because of what the players said at breakup day. I doubt players want to be micromanaged but still feels like the players were a bit miffed that they were just told to go out and play without more coaching.
IDvsEGO said:
Do I think drury is a great gm? Nope, but when you look at the deadline moves he’s made in two consecutive seasons (ignoring the Kane trade) it’s clear he can realistically evaluate the holes on the team. He doesn’t overvalue players, he’s both conservative (doesn’t overpay) and moved decisively.

I exclude Kane because I think all reports have basically said that was forced on him.
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yeah also I don't think he's done a terrible job and honestly getting a team over the hump to become a legit contender and win the cup is hard as hell. I think he's made some missteps and he's made some good moves but there's still some missing bit that needs to come together, whether it's the coach or some aspect of the lineup
 
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duhmetreE said:
Hynes sounding pretty decent in that regard.
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The thing is, I don't know about the systems but I know that the Rangers practices were fairly high intensity. Kane and Tarasenko I think both mentioned that the team prefers to play high tempo and practices were high tempo. The issue was we didn't have the horses to play that style this past season -- certainly in the playoffs. What we need is a coach and a GM with a vision. Go get the right players for the system or change the system. I think we ended up with a team makeup that lacked a vision that matched the preferred system/playing style. Hopefully this isn't a fatal flaw with the team's core.

Right now, what we need is a GM who expresses a vision and is willing to lose his job fighting for said vision. GMCD has shown an incredibly weak spine in that regard. He certainly likes to blame others, but his constantly shifting vision is on the verge of completely destroying the rebuild entirely. This coaching hire seems to lack a vision. Seems very much so about picking the best option from all available options. But what's the vision?? What are we building? Find a coach that fits the vision. You can hire a coach with the worst record in the league if you can convince me he's the guy who fits the vision/plan. I see no evidence of a singular vision.
 
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If it's Quenville, we must wait another 2-3 weeks at most. SCF game 7 ends on June 19; presumably, the meeting between Q and Bettman will occur that week. If Vegas can sweep Florida by Saturday, we can find out next week.
 
Levitate said:
Less so than hiring him and moreso that they were indicating they wanted to keep him on another year regardless.
I don't totally mind they took a swing at a developmental coach but what also muddied the waters there was having guys like Panarin and Strome running the show and chafing at Quinn's micromanaging, but all that falls back on the guys who hired the coach and signed the players.

Yeah and if we can believe the beat reporters, Gallant being let go was at least in part because of what the players said at breakup day. I doubt players want to be micromanaged but still feels like the players were a bit miffed that they were just told to go out and play without more coaching.
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I think the biggest part of this is that gallant clearly had guys who could do no wrong.
Strome was clearly hurt last playoff in the tb series and yet he wasn’t out, and then they sat Kakko, who was one of our best forwards at controlling play that series.
Gallant loved his bottom 6 “glue” guys who can’t control shit.
I don’t have any good answer for a coach, because I don’t love lavi and hynes is a potential disaster.
At least lavi won a Stanley cup, but his run in Washington was disappointing and would be the opposite of what we want in ny with regards to playing the kids.

Kaneiac said:
If it's Quenville, we must wait another 2-3 weeks at most. SCF game 7 ends on June 19; presumably, the meeting between Q and Bettman will occur that week. If Vegas can sweep Florida by Saturday, we can find out next week.
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That would end any love for the rangers I have.
 
They honestly should have kept Gallant at this rate. The guy had back to back 100 point seasons. Will his replacement? I would rather a bottle of Heinz ketchup over Hynes. And Lavi is uninspiring.
 
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Paulie Walnutz said:
They honestly should have kept Gallant at this rate. The guy had back to back 100 point seasons. Will his replacement? I would rather a bottle of Heinz ketchup over Hynes. And Lavi is uninspiring.
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This is what I've been saying all along.

Wholesale changes to the core of this roster are needed but both Drury and Gorton share the blame for giving out all of these NMC's like candy.

Who knows what was said in exit meetings, but what shocked me more was that this was news to Drury and that he only fired Gallant after the exit meetings occurred despite no plans to move on from him beforehand (allegedly). Like, dude, it's your job to know the pulse of your team and what's going on in the locker room.

It is what it is at this point. This next coach has two years to win with this group. We're stuck with them until the NMC's become NTC's and Panarin's contract runs out. Just get me Cooper in 2025 and I'll be happy.
 
The timing on both of Drury's coaching hires have been rough despite it being the right move to fire both of the coaches. The summer Quinn was fired the coaching pool was dogshit and now this summer, same thing.

The summer in between though there were like 3-4 guys available who would instantly be the best available right now. Montgomery, Cassidy and Deboer were all available and for sure better candidates. Trotz was also recently fired. Even Torts would be higher up for me than Laviolette or Hynes.

Don't get it twisted though, firing Gallant was the right move. He was unwilling or unable to adjust, it was clear his 'system' wasn't working and reportedly from the exit interviews he had lost the room.
 
Paulie Walnutz said:
They honestly should have kept Gallant at this rate. The guy had back to back 100 point seasons. Will his replacement? I would rather a bottle of Heinz ketchup over Hynes. And Lavi is uninspiring.
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The players wanted Gallant out, retaining him was not an option.
 
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