ImIdaho
Choo-Choo-Choose me!
- Mar 21, 2012
- 4,722
- 0
I think a player needs to bank in some goals before they're called a "difference maker."
We're really going to do that with Nash and his 2 goals?
Post-Game Talk: Rangers @ Devils | 2/5/13 | 6 Goalie System Brah!
- Thread starter Kakko
- Start date
-
Xenforo Cloud will be upgrading us to version 2.3.5 on March 3rd at 12 AM GMT. This version has increased stability and fixes several bugs. We expect downtime for the duration of the update. The admin team will continue to work on existing issues, templates and upgrade all necessary available addons to minimize impact of this new version. Click Here for Updates
I think a player needs to bank in some goals before they're called a "difference maker."
We're really going to do that with Nash and his 2 goals?
Samuel Culper III
Mr. Woodhull...
That is exactly what I said. That people will just look at the stats, say he is producing, and excuse him. He looks bad. He's a frustrating, overrated player with a huge contract.
Kakko
Formerly Chytil
Glen Sathers Cigar
Sather 4 Ever
The lack of Fire and Jam are two of the biggest problems.
Very much agree. Girardi is the rock and glue of our defense.
LieutenantLackluster
welp
what games are you watching? He has points....but for the amount of ice-time and being our # 1 center, he's looked terrible out there. Uninterested, lackadaisical, and unmotivated play. Lazy passes, unmotivated, and a total liability in our own zone. Just because he makes 1 good pass per game and that ends up in a goal (Kreider 2nite, which was all his shot, and Nash's goal (vs TB), which was all Nash himself) does not amount to him playing well.
Glen Sathers Cigar
Sather 4 Ever
Machinehead
HFNYR MVP
He's here to produce. He's doing that. He's not here to provide Jam, throw his weight around, or make a difference on every single shift.
People forgot what a number one center looked like between the mid 90's and Brad Richards (long time right?). Oftentimes it looks alot like numbers. We have Ryan Callahan to be a pistol in the top 6. For the 1st liners I want numbers.
The Islanders are a bad team?
If the Islanders are a bad team, what does that make the Rangers who have less points?
I was at the Isles game tonight, they certainly looked like they had more fire and passion then I've seen out of the Rangers lately.
Underestimating an opponent is a surefire way to get a loss.
Holocene
Registered User
You can't be serious... Girardi has been the worst of our top 4 so far this year. He is always giving the puck away in our zone while trying to clear it, I'd hardly call that calmness. He is not better than McDonagh or Staal. He certainly makes our defense better though.
Fitzy
Very Stable Genius
- Jan 29, 2009
- 36,275
- 23,989
Do you guys know why Richards hasn't looked great so far? Because the power ply has lacked cohesion.
As Brad Richards goes, so goes the power play, and vice versa. I have said this for over a year now. If our PP improves, so will people's perception of Brad's play.
As Brad Richards goes, so goes the power play, and vice versa. I have said this for over a year now. If our PP improves, so will people's perception of Brad's play.
Machinehead
HFNYR MVP
what games are you watching? He has points....but for the amount of ice-time and being our # 1 center, he's looked terrible out there. Uninterested, lackadaisical, and unmotivated play. Lazy passes, unmotivated, and a total liability in our own zone. Just because he makes 1 good pass per game and that ends up in a goal (Kreider 2nite, which was all his shot, and Nash's goal (vs TB), which was all Nash himself) does not amount to him playing well.
You're really ready for Derek Stepan as our #1 center. Forget not playing great, I'd take Brad Richards on mustard gas over Stepan at 1C.
LieutenantLackluster
welp
SO, like, whats it gonna take for all of us to agree there is a legitimate problem with this team? And its not just the PP.
ImIdaho
Choo-Choo-Choose me!
- Mar 21, 2012
- 4,722
- 0
Samuel Culper III
Mr. Woodhull...
Not that I agree with building around Nash, but Columbus tried it while drafting Zherdev and then giving up on him, drafting Filatov and giving up on him and generally not drafting/developing players well. They didn't have Lundqvist, Staal, McDonagh, Girardi, Del Zotto, Callahan, Stepan, Hagelin, Kreider, Miller already installed around him when they decided to "build" around him. In this case, if we were to have 15M to spend rather than having Gaborik/Richards, there would at least be some frame work in place. Again, I'm not agreeing with the idea, but it would be a bit different from Columbus' situation, to be fair.
Lion Hound
Pornhub Enthusiast
Gaborik led both team with 5 shots on goal. He just couldn't get one to pop. Guy was the Rangers offense last season. 2 40 goal seasons for the Rangers. How is he so infuriating?
Richards made an incredible play on the Krieder goal. Looked like Nylander feeding Jargon off the rush.
I'm not so ready to jump on these guys. Though this game was more bad bounces than anything.
I agree.
Nash at least gives a ****. He throws his body around. Hes trying to get through the opposition with the puck.
Richards and Gaborik have no guts. No heart. No accountability. Richards is starting to decline. He gets an assist tonight because he hands the puck off to Kreider who was flying tonight and who owns Brodeur (4 goals in 7 games).
When "best players" aren't best players, teams don't win games.
i'd be down for more JAM.....lets fire Torts and bring in Laviolette? Oh wait, he's under contract. Maybe we can trade Torts to Philly for Laviolette straight up. Might just do the trick...since both teams suck arse now and could use a shake up
Machinehead
HFNYR MVP
And what exactly are we spending that 15M on? Sorry but a Crosby, Malkin, Giruox, Stamkos, or Toews isn't falling to free agency.
A Richards caliber player is about the best we're getting on the market.
The best center out there will be Ryan Getzlaf. I don't think he's any better and it would be for more money. But he's big though, so lots of Jam amirite?
Honestly there isn't much right going on now so I think we should just say everything and be done with it.
Hockey Team
Hunger Force
Fitzy
Very Stable Genius
- Jan 29, 2009
- 36,275
- 23,989
Because Gaborik doesn't "dangle" or do other crowd pleasing maneuvers. There was a time when hockey was based on results, now with this newer generation it is mostly about aesthetics, and short memories.
Samuel Culper III
Mr. Woodhull...
Getting points and creating offense are not the same thing. Richards isn't producing in the way that warrants the kind of contract or ice time he has. I'm not looking for him to throw his weight around or provide jam and nothing I've written suggest that. I'm looking for him to actually play like a top center. He's simply not. He looks like a 2C. Stepan looks like a 3C, if that, right now. No, obviously, I wouldn't want Stepan anywhere near the 1C, but Richards doesn't look like it right now either and he's not going to get any younger or better. I was disappointed in Richards last year but the team did so well that I overlooked it and attributed it to him needing time to gel with his new team. And as long as he came through when it mattered, I was content. This year, he looks worse than last.
he hasn't been as bad as you describe. He hasn't been last years Girardi yet....but he is still the glue that brings this D together.
McDonagh makes far fewer mistakes than Girardi. Plus Girardi goes on long streaks where he plays like really poorly. Staal also has those streaks, but they're not as long. McDonagh is by far our most consistent defenseman.
