Confirmed with Link: Rangers claim Arthur Kaliyev from LA

[Tob]

McDonagh and Miller for 1st, 2nd, hajdk, howden, and kalieyv, cised.

 

[will1066]

Trolling?

I don't know what you're talking about.

 

[FoxysExpensiveNYDigs]

But from the opposite circle.

And when I said he'll be on the fourth line, I was being sarcastic because that's what the idiots could very well do eventually if not initially.

Two Kings of the 1T! They'll be unstoppable.

 

[80shockeywasbuns]

There's your answer to who's going down

SEE YA

 

[AKrangerfan]

I watched both the videos posted in the link of his goals. The guy has a wicked shot. I want to see him in Brod's spot next to Mika. Sit Vesey and Brod's goes back to the fourth line. We might have something here. If not it doesn't cost anything to give him a shot.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

There's your answer to who's going down

Should have never been brought up. Rangers doing Ranger things.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

No silver lining for me


Homie!


I also was born in Uzbekistan and still live on SI!

NO RELATION JOE:

 

[cwede]

What’s the point in claiming him to not be in the lineup

because he's 23 with a wicked shot, worth a try,
but hasn't played NHL yet this season, recovering from IIRC shoulder collar-bone ding in Camp

was hoping he'd could be sent to Pack for Conditioning,
but that's what his 5 AHL games were from 12/15-12/27

Also he could be an add-on to larger trade of/for a regular

FYI FROM PuckPedia:
"Dec 28 2024 - Kaliyev was activated from injured reserve ...
Dec 10 2024 - Kaliyev (collarbone) was sent down to AHL Ontario on a conditioning assignment Tuesday.
Oct 10 2024 - Per John Hoven of SiriusXM NHL Network Radio, Kaliyev (collarbone) will be out of action for 6-8 weeks, general manager Rob Blake said Thursday.
Oct 6 2024 - Kaliyev (collarbone) was put on injured reserve Sunday.

 

[will1066]

Two Kings of the 1T! They'll be unstoppable.

King Arthur? King of Staten Island?

Stop it. The league, or hockey as we know and recognize it, isn't ready for this.

 

[UnparalledPark]

Hey guys, coming in peace

Little background on Kaliyev

was hurt this year, was blackballed last year after asking for a trade. He was good-to-excellent in his role, but in typical Kings fashion was dicked around in favor of vets (Kings had to justify their poor investments on PLD and Fiala), and his confidence took a dump, and I'm sure you guys have an idea of what happens to scorers when they're moody/lacking confidence. One of his last shifts with the Kings he fired a one timer wide and promptly broke his stick in frustration. Dude just needs someone to believe and McLellan and Blake were both publicly f***ing assholes to him.

In short--enigmatic/moody/medium-maintenance. Needs to be deployed with responsible-ish players who can carry the puck because you don't want him lugging it anywhere. But better on the boards and great in cycle, one of the only Kings in recent history who can snipe even elite goalies from anywhere, and when he's feeling it he's an absolute weapon on the PP.

I had posted this on our forum the day of:

On a team full of two-way players, you can afford to use a Kaliyev on a line as such, where they were utterly dominant:

You see his numbers turn to shit when he was put with losers like PLD and when buried on the 4th line with 5 minutes per game and one shift per period

But in an effort to get their money's worth on several poor investments, they buried Kaliyev to forcefeed Fiala and PLD, and it's been all downhill since.

And funny enough, their numbers were better with Kaliyev than when force fed Fiala:

Maybe you don't want a sensitive player/personality to manage, or one you can't plug and play (especially if you're f***ing lazy like Koala), but the results were absolutely there when used correctly. Also don't forget around the same time he was in the top 10 in the league in power play productivity rate so it wasn't just 5v5 with Danault/Moore. When he was getting minutes, he was a factor. When he was buried, he wasn't. It's that simple--and sure we can make other observations about his pouting and 'drive' and whatever but the facts are the facts. Just another situation where they made a decision based on poorly-chosen vets over youth in order to justify a dogshit investment return.



I'm big on his upside as you can probably tell. At worst it's a fresh start and a free shot at a project. With some of the offensive talent you have on the PP especially, him being an option rather than THE option is going to open up some opportunities. Wishing him and you well.

Thanks. I’m sure Drury will coddle him and make him feel welcomed.

 

[bobbop]

What kind of player is he?

Shooter

 

[Lion Hound]

Shiny new toy for the New York Rangers!

I love going back into draft guides when new players come aboard to see what scouts said prior to their draft year. Kayilev was much discussed and in his 2019 draft opinions were all over the map. Blackbook that year had a lot of doubts. They were down on him and ranked him 34th. Blackbook was all over Alex Turcotte that year and had him 4th OA. Redline was quite the opposite. Woodlief loved Kaliyev! He had him 6th overall. For the record, this draft in particular seems to be a tough one to rank. Most of top 10 have underproduced. Hughes, Seider the exceptions.

Here's what Woodlief had to Kaliyev.


REDLINE:
6) Arthur Kaliyev - Hamilton RW

Gamebreaker! He's a pure goal scorer who's right there with Kakko and Caufield as the best finishers in the draft. Consistently dangerous from the moment he steps on the ice. At times looks like he's not involved, but he's always reading the play, ready to strike like a Cobra. Complete package of size, skill, and skating ability. His speed and big frame allow him to beat defenders wide playing the off-wing, then pull the puck into the middle and get off his deadly snap shot. Is always prepared for a pass. Will never be a Selke Trophy winner, but does a decent job of coverage in his own end and will block a shot when game is on the line. See's the ice beautifully and distributes the puck quickly, showing lots of creativity in his playmaking. Will go to tough areas for pucks. Has an uncanny ability of finding rebounds to bury. Tucks goals into minuscule windows. Elite talent, but we'd like to see more fire.

Projection: 1st Line Scoring Winger With Star Potential.
Style Compares To: Kyle Connor

 

[will1066]

Shiny new toy for the New York Rangers!

I love going back into draft guides when new players come aboard to see what scouts said prior to their draft year. Kayilev was much discussed and in his 2019 draft opinions were all over the map. Blackbook that year had a lot of doubts. They were down on him and ranked him 34th. Blackbook was all over Alex Turcotte that year and had him 4th OA. Redline was quite the opposite. Woodlief loved Kaliyev! He had him 6th overall. For the record, this draft in particular seems to be a tough one to rank. Most of top 10 have underproduced. Hughes, Seider the exceptions.

Here's what Woodlief had to Kaliyev.


REDLINE:
6) Arthur Kaliyev - Hamilton RW

Gamebreaker! He's a pure goal scorer who's right there with Kakko and Caufield as the best finishers in the draft. Consistently dangerous from the moment he steps on the ice. At times looks like he's not involved, but he's always reading the play, ready to strike like a Cobra. Complete package of size, skill, and skating ability. His speed and big frame allow him to beat defenders wide playing the off-wing, then pull the puck into the middle and get off his deadly snap shot. Is always prepared for a pass. Will never be a Selke Trophy winner, but does a decent job of coverage in his own end and will block a shot when game is on the line. See's the ice beautifully and distributes the puck quickly, showing lots of creativity in his playmaking. Will go to tough areas for pucks. Has an uncanny ability of finding rebounds to bury. Tucks goas into minuscule windows. Elite talent, but wed like to see more fire.

Projection: 1st Line Scoring Winger With Star Potential.
Style Compares To: Kyle Connor

Yeah, no offense, got to "Kakko" and stopped reading because right there it lost credibility.

 

[TheDirtyH]

Kalievs best case looks a lot like toffoli to me, which is a really useful player. I don't watch a ton of kings so my insights limited, but I don't have super high hopes here. attitude wise seems kind of similar make up to our room already which I don't love.

But we're able to get an early waiver claim for a reason: he's good enough to see what he can do.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

Really liked Kaliyev in his draft year. He's had a weird career to this point, scored at half a point per game a couple years ago but has had his ice time gradually shortened ever since.

Maybe coming back to NY (grew up in Staten Island) will help him and all he needed was a change of scenery. Or he continues on his trajectory and flames out.

Not too complete of a player but with a shot as deadly as his, if he can learn to be just passable in the rest of his game then he should be able to have a Frank Vatrano type of career. I know he's not a similar player per se, with Vatrano's motor being a legitimate strength, I mean I can see Kaliyev in the same light as middle six scorer who can be a weapon on the PP. If not, then he's Brandon Pirri and just a AAAA guy. Either way, zero risk here so I like it.

 

[Lion Hound]

Yeah, no offense, got to "Kakko" and stopped reading because right there it lost credibility.

Yep, that was a tough one. But, the truth his the entire scouting community either got Kakko wrong, or the Rangers... well you know that story.

 

[Machinehead]

Kalievs best case looks a lot like toffoli to me, which is a really useful player. I don't watch a ton of kings so my insights limited, but I don't have super high hopes here. attitude wise seems kind of similar make up to our room already which I don't love.

But we're able to get an early waiver claim for a reason: he's good enough to see what he can do.

I wouldn't agree with that.

There is a lot of smoke with this guy as far as potential attitude issues, so maybe that is a factor, but personalities are different.

I don't see his as being similar to what we have. He was reportedly not happy about his usage and has been known to show a bit of frustration. He'll also shoot from absolutely anywhere. Those are two things we don't have.

 

[Machinehead]

Really liked Kaliyev in his draft year. He's had a weird career to this point, scored at half a point per game a couple years ago but has had his ice time gradually shortened ever since.

Maybe coming back to NY (grew up in Staten Island) will help him and all he needed was a change of scenery. Or he continues on his trajectory and flames out.

Not too complete of a player but with a shot as deadly as his, if he can learn to be just passable in the rest of his game then he should be able to have a Frank Vatrano type of career. I know he's not a similar player per se, with Vatrano's motor being a legitimate strength, I mean I can see Kaliyev in the same light as middle six scorer who can be a weapon on the PP. If not, then he's Brandon Pirri and just a AAAA guy. Either way, zero risk here so I like it.

The thing with Vatrano is that his underlying numbers are consistently awful. He's one of those guys that's motoring everywhere because he can't keep up.

Like I said, maybe the attitude issues are a factor. I haven't seen the guy up close, so we'll see.

That said, sometimes when I hear "motor issues," I think "oh great, he doesn't have to try that hard to f***ing exist."

 

[TheDirtyH]

I wouldn't agree with that.

There is a lot of smoke with this guy as far as potential attitude issues, so maybe that is a factor, but personalities are different.

I don't see his as being similar to what we have. He was reportedly not happy about his usage and has been known to show a bit of frustration. He'll also shoot from absolutely anywhere. Those are two things we don't have.

Yeah, I mean I'm far from an expert. Just from my POV I've seen a player who's not well trusted by coaches, slow, doesn't kill penalties, has proven most effective on the PP, and does especially well with guys who are fleet of foot and do a lot of dirty work.

He does shoot a lot, but it's not exactly like he gets inside to do so or has great success with it.

I like how thick he is and his ability on the wall is underrated from my viewings, but he's a passenger to this point, and I think that his attitude in how he plays looks a lot like our roster. JMO, could be very wrong.

 

[will1066]

Did he grow up a Rangers fan? Maybe that's an intangible and a motivator. Getting to play at the World's Most Expensive Arena to fulfill a childhood dream.

 

[Machinehead]

Yeah, I mean I'm far from an expert. Just from my POV I've seen a player who's not well trusted by coaches, slow, doesn't kill penalties, has proven most effective on the PP, and does especially well with guys who are fleet of foot and do a lot of dirty work.

He does shoot a lot, but it's not exactly like he gets inside to do so or has great success with it.

I like how thick he is and his ability on the wall is underrated from my viewings, but he's a passenger to this point, and I think that his attitude in how he plays looks a lot like our roster. JMO, could be very wrong.

I mean, every coach he's had with the Rangers would trust Zibanejad with their lives.

 

[The Undertaker]

Rangers will put him on whatever wing he is least comfortable on with the players least suited to maximize his skills. 0 PP time and by some miracle if he scores a few games in a row, Lav will promptly demote him and cut his minutes.

 

[eco's bones]

I was thinking the Rangers might take a chance on him.

It's not something that will hurt to try but I'm skeptical that he's going to be a good fit. The Rangers are already a bit slow of foot with too many of our forwards not helping out the D enough. He might fit right in with that. But it's wait and see and a chance to be pleasantly surprised and we're not really going anywhere this season anyway.

 

[Kodiak]

I don’t mind taking a flyer on a young player with some potential. I just hope that this move doesn’t push Berard out of the top 9.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

Its a good pickup, low risk.

But I feel like the same things that pissed him off in LA (Vets getting more time, not enough PP usage, ice time, etc.) will be no different in NY. In some cases, maybe even worse.

I mean Lavy is still trotting out Mika in the final minutes of the game when home growns in Chytil and Cuylle are having great games with hot sticks and they arent even considered because its not what "we work on in practice"