Confirmed with Link: Rangers claim Arthur Kaliyev from LA

will1066

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I can see him being on the 4th line taking over Vesey's spot.
 
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LOFIN

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I can see him being on the 4th line taking over Vesey's spot.
He’s gonna replace Brodzinski for now I would think.
We've just had a bunch of Kings fans say that he was ruined because he can't play that role and the Kings tried to force him to be a bottom-6 grinder instead of a scorer. I know it's a zero risk waiver claim, but if we are not putting him next to skilled players on a potential scoring role, what are we doing here?
 

Machinehead

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Hey guys, coming in peace

Little background on Kaliyev

was hurt this year, was blackballed last year after asking for a trade. He was good-to-excellent in his role, but in typical Kings fashion was dicked around in favor of vets (Kings had to justify their poor investments on PLD and Fiala), and his confidence took a dump, and I'm sure you guys have an idea of what happens to scorers when they're moody/lacking confidence. One of his last shifts with the Kings he fired a one timer wide and promptly broke his stick in frustration. Dude just needs someone to believe and McLellan and Blake were both publicly f***ing assholes to him.

In short--enigmatic/moody/medium-maintenance. Needs to be deployed with responsible-ish players who can carry the puck because you don't want him lugging it anywhere. But better on the boards and great in cycle, one of the only Kings in recent history who can snipe even elite goalies from anywhere, and when he's feeling it he's an absolute weapon on the PP.

I had posted this on our forum the day of:

On a team full of two-way players, you can afford to use a Kaliyev on a line as such, where they were utterly dominant:


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You see his numbers turn to shit when he was put with losers like PLD and when buried on the 4th line with 5 minutes per game and one shift per period

But in an effort to get their money's worth on several poor investments, they buried Kaliyev to forcefeed Fiala and PLD, and it's been all downhill since.

And funny enough, their numbers were better with Kaliyev than when force fed Fiala:


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Maybe you don't want a sensitive player/personality to manage, or one you can't plug and play (especially if you're f***ing lazy like Koala), but the results were absolutely there when used correctly. Also don't forget around the same time he was in the top 10 in the league in power play productivity rate so it wasn't just 5v5 with Danault/Moore. When he was getting minutes, he was a factor. When he was buried, he wasn't. It's that simple--and sure we can make other observations about his pouting and 'drive' and whatever but the facts are the facts. Just another situation where they made a decision based on poorly-chosen vets over youth in order to justify a dogshit investment return.



I'm big on his upside as you can probably tell. At worst it's a fresh start and a free shot at a project. With some of the offensive talent you have on the PP especially, him being an option rather than THE option is going to open up some opportunities. Wishing him and you well.
Good to see you here, friend! :cheers:

I like this because it's the kind of thing the Rangers never do.

He has a lot of skill and shows a bit of emotion. It's the antithesis of the classic Rangers pickup that's just a good vanilla worker bee who doesn't do anything thrilling.

The last time we picked up an enigmatic project with a bit of skill, it was Derick Brassard, one of my top three favorite Rangers of all-time, so yeah.
 

DanielBrassard

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We've just had a bunch of Kings fans say that he was ruined because he can't play that role and the Kings tried to force him to be a bottom-6 grinder instead of a scorer. I know it's a zero risk waiver claim, but if we are not putting him next to skilled players on a potential scoring role, what are we doing here?
He’s going to be playing with Mika and Smith, that’s what I meant. The rangers don’t have a bottom-6, it’s three scoring lines and the 4th.
 

markymarc1215

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I really like this move. He was a 1st round talent that slipped a bit in the draft. Great reclamation project with nothing but upside considering we got him for free. Also coming from a LA Kings team that has much more culture and leadership in the locker room than ours.
 

Fitzy

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If they play him on the 4th line to start I will actually genuinely facepalm in real life

He should be one of those guys, like Pirri or Christensen, who gets looks with skilled plyers or not at all. He very clearly isn't going to be part of a shutdown forechecking unit that focuses on suppression and high volume, low chance tactics.
 

SA16

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He’s going to be playing with Mika and Smith, that’s what I meant. The rangers don’t have a bottom-6, it’s three scoring lines and the 4th.

I think he most likely isn't going to be playing at all tomorrow given he's had no practices with the team, hasn't played an NHL game this year, Kreider could be back, and Brodzinski scored in that spot yesterday.
 
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