Around the NHL — Episode XLXVII

[L'Aveuglette]

The sooner Hamonic is off this team the better.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Whatever, keep beating the drum for Hamonic if that's what gets you going. The guy is a plug and brings nothing to the table *except for that one time he shot a puck 96.7mph*

I’m not shilling for Hamonic, just pointing out how bad your bad your example was when shooting isn’t one of his worst traits, when you had so many others to choose from.
You obviously didn’t read the link, as you would of saw his shot average is in the 71st percentile.

 

[Stutzlaaaa]

Tampa always trade for good players for cheap. Hagel is a Top6 foward who actually score now . With them ahead of WC spot with 4 pts a game in hand . I can see them locking that 3rd spot till the end of season. Too much talent and experience from top to bottom in that roster.

Let's hope and pray we can keep the WC spot by having a strong return. We play a lot of games vs our division for the remaining games it could get ugly quickly even with supposedly easy match ups.

 

[Blotto71]

I’m not shilling for Hamonic, just pointing out how bad your bad your example was when shooting isn’t one of his worst traits, when you had so many others to choose from.
You obviously didn’t read the link, as you would of saw his shot average is in the 71st percentile.

Yes I read the link. I quoted it - he has a 0% shooting average.

Are we really going to quibble about why or how he's bad?

Pointless conversation.

Have a nice day.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Tampa always trade for good players for cheap. Hagel is a Top6 foward who actually score now . With them ahead of WC spot with 4 pts a game in hand . I can see them locking that 3rd spot till the end of season. Too much talent and experience from top to bottom in that roster.

Let's hope and pray we can keep the WC spot by having a strong return. We play a lot of games vs our division for the remaining games it could get ugly quickly even with supposedly easy match ups.

To be fair, when they traded two 1sts and two young forwards (Raddysh and Katchouk) for Hagel most people on HF thought they were crazy.

I defended the deal, due to Hagel being only 23 at the time, having put up 37 points in 55 games and, importantly for Tampa's cap situation, he was signed for an extra year at only 1.5M.

Can't say I expected him to grow into a PPG forward though. Really good pro-scouting by Tampa on that one.

People are justifiably upset we dropped two games against them, but Tampa is a legitimate contender again after adding Guentzel. Top 5 team in the league by goal differential and advanced stats that has been unlucky this season. They could very well win it all again.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Are we really going to quibble about why or how he's bad?

Guess we will, when you were shown shot speed isn’t one of them.

 

[Xspyrit]

To be fair, when they traded two 1sts and two young forwards (Raddysh and Katchouk) for Hagel most people on HF thought they were crazy.

I defended the deal, due to Hagel being only 23 at the time, having put up 37 points in 55 games and, importantly for Tampa's cap situation, he was signed for an extra year at only 1.5M.

Can't say I expected him to grow into a PPG forward though. Really good pro-scouting by Tampa on that one.

People are justifiably upset we dropped two games against them, but Tampa is a legitimate contender again after adding Guentzel. Top 5 team in the league by goal differential and advanced stats that has been unlucky this season. They could very well win it all again.

Julien Brisebois and Mathieu Darche represent excellence

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Julien Brisebois and Mathieu Darche represent excellence

Best in class?

To be fair, when they traded two 1sts and two young forwards (Raddysh and Katchouk) for Hagel most people on HF thought they were crazy.

I defended the deal, due to Hagel being only 23 at the time, having put up 37 points in 55 games and, importantly for Tampa's cap situation, he was signed for an extra year at only 1.5M.

Can't say I expected him to grow into a PPG forward though. Really good pro-scouting by Tampa on that one.

People are justifiably upset we dropped two games against them, but Tampa is a legitimate contender again after adding Guentzel. Top 5 team in the league by goal differential and advanced stats that has been unlucky this season. They could very well win it all again.

He did not get off to the greatest start in Tampa the year he was traded. he's been vey good since

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Tampa with 3 in the top 20, Oilers 2, Leafs 2, Wings 2, Fla 2

Brady is 21
Next Senator Norris 104
Batherson 147
Stutzle 150
Pinto 156
Giroux 200

In case anyone is wondering how they derive shooting talent.

It's based on a player's historical record of exceeding their expected goals. A player's ability to score more goals an average player given the same scoring opportunities. A player with a shooting talent above average of 20% would have a 12% chance of scoring a goal on a shot with expected goal value of 0.1

Never looked at this stat before and no idea how to weigh it but it does seem being higher on the list is better
Hard (for me) to explain Brady being higher on the list than Scheifele, Eichel, Panarin, MacKinnon , Kaprizov, Connor ?? I don't fully understand it and I am not currently motivated to try to break it down.

Stats updated: Sunday February 9, 2025 at 4:25 PM Eastern Time

 

[Blotto71]

Guess we will, when you were shown shot speed isn’t one of them.

The speed of one shot, on net.

He misses the net more than 25% of his attempts, and that was what I referenced - an 81(?)mph shot attempt that was 2 feet wide of the net.

But hey! We agree? More TH is not what is needed.

 

[bicboi64]

Doughty making Team Canada despite not playing a single game smh, can't stand that prick

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

https://post.futurimedia.com/cfgoam/playlist/4/listen-2004.html?cb=1739282895.846205

Corrado on 1200
A little David Bell talk... Is the NHL a development league? ... 4N-Canada talk

 

[Micklebot]

Doughty making Team Canada despite not playing a single game smh, can't stand that prick

He's played 6 games...

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

 

[Blotto71]

Oooof!

 

[Loach]

But, but Yorkie says we have enough scoring and need another D....he's such a meatball sometimes.

 

[Micklebot]

But, but Yorkie says we have enough scoring and need another D....he's such a meatball sometimes.

All those game were with two of our better forwards,

Besides, anything that pushes Hamonic out is going to do more than the equivalent forward pushing a 4th line out...

 

[Loach]

All those game were with two of our better forwards,

Besides, anything that pushes Hamonic out is going to do more than the equivalent forward pushing a 4th line out...

This would be true, but he loves Hamonic.

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

To be fair, when they traded two 1sts and two young forwards (Raddysh and Katchouk) for Hagel most people on HF thought they were crazy.

I defended the deal, due to Hagel being only 23 at the time, having put up 37 points in 55 games and, importantly for Tampa's cap situation, he was signed for an extra year at only 1.5M.

Can't say I expected him to grow into a PPG forward though. Really good pro-scouting by Tampa on that one.

People are justifiably upset we dropped two games against them, but Tampa is a legitimate contender again after adding Guentzel. Top 5 team in the league by goal differential and advanced stats that has been unlucky this season. They could very well win it all again.

Tampa's main issue is their forward depth and even their fans are first to admit. Even in our games I think our bottom 6 was actually better than theirs, it was their top 6 that completely terrified me when facing against ours. Then there's Vasilevskiy being unbelievably elite.

 

[Micklebot]

Tampa's main issue is their forward depth and even their fans are first to admit. Even in our games I think our bottom 6 was actually better than theirs, it was their top 6 that completely terrified me when facing against ours. Then there's Vasilevskiy being unbelievably elite.

That's pretty terrible when you consider our bottom six was missing Pinto, Cousins and Gregor, plus Greig got pushed into the top 6 so that's down 4 in our bottom 6

 

[Hale The Villain]

Tampa's main issue is their forward depth and even their fans are first to admit. Even in our games I think our bottom 6 was actually better than theirs, it was their top 6 that completely terrified me when facing against ours. Then there's Vasilevskiy being unbelievably elite.

Yeah their depth has suffered due to their cap situation. They've had to add a bunch of guys on sub-1M contracts to fill out the bottom of their roster.

I expect they'll add some depth at the deadline.

 

[thinkwild]

https://post.futurimedia.com/cfgoam/playlist/4/listen-2004.html?cb=1739282895.846205

Corrado on 1200
A little David Bell talk... Is the NHL a development league? ... 4N-Canada talk

I heard that in the background this morning, thought it was an interesting point. Sometimes i think i have said the NHL is not a development league. But on the other hand i have also credited coaches like Jacques Martin for helping develop some of our young players over the years. Not sure how i rationalize that. Its not a development league but we expect coaches to help develop players here. Fan ambiguity i guess.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

I heard that in the background this morning, thought it was an interesting point. Sometimes i think i have said the NHL is not a development league. But on the other hand i have also credited coaches like Jacques Martin for helping develop some of our young players over the years. Not sure how i rationalize that. Its not a development league but we expect coaches to help develop players here. Fan ambiguity i guess.

Perhaps if we change up the wording a bit. It's not a developmental league, but you still need coaches who can polish up and refine those diamonds we do have. Most players are at 90% or more of their full ability when they enter the league, but it's that last 10% which really defines their career or how long they'll last in the NHL.