Post-Game Talk: Rangers at Canadiens 11-16-2013

eco's bones

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I just got home after being away on a dinner party that went long (4 AM), and this was the best possible thing to come home to! A win in Montréal!!!

McDonagh-Girardi after all the **** I've been giving them as a pairing seems to have had a dominant game for once. Great indication, if they can keep this going I would even condone re-signing Girardi.

Though I don't get the praise for Falk, the Falk-Moore pairing started almost all of their shifts in the offensive zone, yet were badly outshot. But I didn't have the opportunity to watch this one so maybe they were at least decent. I still think there is likely a big amount of confirmation bias regarding the praise for Falk in this thread.

We also seem to have outplayed the Habs pretty badly (63% Close), if we can keep this going we should be able to challenge for #1 in the East. Especially if Nash gets back into the lineup soon.

Apart from the fact that the score was close throughout the game and that the win was in some sort of jeopardy, this seems to have been pretty much the perfect game!

Keep this going!

:D:D:D:D:D

Falk was very mobile and though a left shot played the right side. He was instrumental in keeping the play alive in the Montreal zone on several occasions. Good gap control. Made the safe play when pressure was on him. He was mean in front of his own net. Didn't fumble the puck even once that I can remember and he was on his backhand a lot.
 

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Falk was very mobile and though a left shot played the right side. He was instrumental in keeping the play alive in the Montreal zone on several occasions. Good gap control. Made the safe play when pressure was on him. He was mean in front of his own net. Didn't fumble the puck even once that I can remember and he was on his backhand a lot.

I think that's a little generous...Falk was fine out there...no worse than MDZ on a typical game. Didnt bring much offensively and bobbled the pucks quite a few times...but im thinking the ice was terrible since i saw quite a few bobbles of the puck....

He was fine for a #6...i think the real problem is John Moore is such a high risk player that pairing him AND MDZ together is a catastrophe waiting to happen, whereas Falk is a low risk player making Moore look much better...

I still dont get why the 2 of them are paired together. Put MDZ on his natural side, pair Moore and Stralman with Staal and MDZ...you'd get much better balance that way.
 

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Every Ranger except for John Moore, Justin Falk, and Brian Boyle came out ahead in possession tonight. Of particular note: the McDonagh-Girardi pairing was strong (66.7% and 62% CF%, respectively) and the Kreider-Stepan-Zuccarello line (63%, 60.9%, 66.7%, respectively).
 

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Helped the oles played last night and rongos haven't played since WED.

AV > Pagliacci x100000000
 

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Was also a Saturday night.

By my calculations based on that interval, the next shutout in Montreal is August 7, 2060. Weird as that sounds, perhaps the season will indeed be started in August.
And wouldn't you know it, August 7, 2060 is also a Saturday. I can't wait :laugh:
 

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the stars where aligned for you guys tonight..3 days rest..habs back to back...chris lee has referee..:handclap: Price was dominant again (best in the league atm) great win:handclap:
 

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By my calculations based on that interval, the next shutout in Montreal is August 7, 2060. Weird as that sounds, perhaps the season will indeed be started in August.
And wouldn't you know it, August 7, 2060 is also a Saturday. I can't wait :laugh:

Nah, we're gonna win the next 7 games in Montreal.

Also, the Rangers play in Montreal again this season. It's the last day of the year. Legitimately hoping that game doesn't mean anything in the standings for us.
 

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Though I don't get the praise for Falk, the Falk-Moore pairing started almost all of their shifts in the offensive zone, yet were badly outshot. But I didn't have the opportunity to watch this one so maybe they were at least decent. I still think there is likely a big amount of confirmation bias regarding the praise for Falk in this thread.

I though Falk made some nice plays. I was surprised when I saw his 34.6 CF% on Extra Skater at the end of the game. He'll probably be in the lineup tomorrow because they won, but I'd be in favor of putting Del Zotto back in.
 

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the stars where aligned for you guys tonight..3 days rest..habs back to back...chris lee has referee..:handclap: Price was dominant again (best in the league atm) great win:handclap:

the stars were aligned.

right.

No Rick Nash

Henrik Lundqvist resting

stars were aligned all right.
 

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gg guys my 3 stars would be

1-Kreider ( didnt score but was everywhere on the ice creating chances,hitting etc.. )

2- Price ( another solid night for Carey but like always the offense cant score )

3- Talbot ( great game for the rookie,tbh had no clue who he was wen i saw the starting line up and called AV crazy for not starting Henrik against us but worked out great and Talbot was solid in net )

i know the rangers are normally horrible at the bell center but yall played great tonight,could of easily finished 3/4-0 if it wasnt for Price

Nice post, but can you explain the juvenile booing the whole game? Seriously the fans at the Bell Center act like a bunch of kids sometimes.
 

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btw, just a quick note...

did anyone see that shot that Subban had on one of their PPs? I knew he could bring it, but that shot was one of the hardest in game shots ive ever seen in my life...he let it go and it went by everyone before they even moved and nobody had the slightest clue where the puck was even though it looked like it didnt hit a single person on its way through....just a mammoth shot.
 

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I though Falk made some nice plays. I was surprised when I saw his 34.6 CF% on Extra Skater at the end of the game. He'll probably be in the lineup tomorrow because they won, but I'd be in favor of putting Del Zotto back in.

I mean I couldn't catch the game so I can't make judgements and possession stats aren't everything, but that low a percentage with that ratio of zone starts (7-1-1) does seem hard to explain away.

But I was hugely impressed by the possession stats McD-G managed to put up considering how awful they've been previously. If they can be 50+% while Staal-Strålman continue their 60+% play we are golden almost no matter what the 3rd pairing decides to do.
 

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btw, just a quick note...

did anyone see that shot that Subban had on one of their PPs? I knew he could bring it, but that shot was one of the hardest in game shots ive ever seen in my life...he let it go and it went by everyone before they even moved and nobody had the slightest clue where the puck was even though it looked like it didnt hit a single person on its way through....just a mammoth shot.

Yea that was crazy. Speed. of. light.

Made me hit the deck just sitting on my couch.
 

eco's bones

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I think that's a little generous...Falk was fine out there...no worse than MDZ on a typical game. Didnt bring much offensively and bobbled the pucks quite a few times...but im thinking the ice was terrible since i saw quite a few bobbles of the puck....

He was fine for a #6...i think the real problem is John Moore is such a high risk player that pairing him AND MDZ together is a catastrophe waiting to happen, whereas Falk is a low risk player making Moore look much better...

I still dont get why the 2 of them are paired together. Put MDZ on his natural side, pair Moore and Stralman with Staal and MDZ...you'd get much better balance that way.

Agree that DZ belongs on the left side. Falk in his one game looked like a better right side option than DZ. He's a better skater. He's definitely bigger, meaner and stronger.
 

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Nah, we're gonna win the next 7 games in Montreal.

Also, the Rangers play in Montreal again this season. It's the last day of the year. Legitimately hoping that game doesn't mean anything in the standings for us.

At least tonight that infinite loop of frustration was halted. A fresh start? That will only be verified through hindsight, so hopefully a year or two down the road we look back and can say that a win at Bell Centre is actually expected.
Nothing lasts forever, and hopefully this is the end of Bell Centre and the Habs partying it up so consistently, without fail, at the Rangers expense.
 

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