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egelband
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Agreed. That said, and I know it's probably a bad idea overall for a few reasons, but part of me would like to see the guys use smaller lighter shoulder pads in training camp (or even, in general).
will1066
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That hit was great. Textbook safe, so close to the boards and square into the chest.
As @BobMarleyNYR says, it was a favor. Gotta get used to the contact. The sooner the better. In fact I bet he and the coaches asked for more contact.
I'm still standing with Kreider 5yrs 6.2 per.
I've been chided for being overly optimistic, but our 3 emerging elcs, preliminary I admit, but still only info we have to go on so far, have looked good/good enough.
We should look at trading Skjei and Deangelo as soon as we have an offer that is high mark for fair market value.
That covers CK salary if nothing else emerges.
I've been chided for being overly optimistic, but our 3 emerging elcs, preliminary I admit, but still only info we have to go on so far, have looked good/good enough.
We should look at trading Skjei and Deangelo as soon as we have an offer that is high mark for fair market value.
That covers CK salary if nothing else emerges.
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That ‘covers’ his salary until you have to replace them
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Young guys are supposed to be made of rubber. If Kakko et al get injured from gameday-style contact the Rangers have bigger issues than a handful of missed games.
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If they can find a way to clear that much cap space to keep Kreider and if he will sign it--okay, great. However I'm not trading my best left side defender at least until I know I have a better one ready to replace him......and maybe that's Miller but he ain't here yet and when he does get here it may take him a year or two to get to the level he needs to be at to start thinking about moving on from Skjei.
I do find it a bit strange that you're for hanging on to an older Kreider and for getting rid of two younger defensemen. Usually you want to dump the veteran.
Machinehead
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Namestnikov is the hair in this soup right now. 4 mil on a throw away forward that is blocking at least someone Andersson or maybe even Kravtsov from being able to start with This team. Can’t wait for him to be gone
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The hit wasn't too bad. Better now so he's used to it. People need to remember that there's different kind of "physicality" in hockey. It doesn't just mean dishing out hits and having the hammer like in EA NHL Games. Jagr was a very physical player because his game was all about puck protection and board work. Not saying Kaako will be on that level (if he's anywhere close hey that's awesome) but like Chytil a lot of his game is puck protection, cycling, winning one on ones as opposed to pure finesse off the rush. Jumbo Joe took a little time to get used to it as did Lecavelier. Both guys had long careers (in Joe's case he's still going).
As for Mr. Trouba, he's always had an edge to his game but what's happened so far in his young career is he's had what I call "Ryan Callahan syndrome" where if you play too physical all the time it's going to lead to you missing 5-15 games a year, which is my "issue" with Trouba. He's THE MAN on this defensive corps so he's needed on the ice. He's going to have to dial it down by 25%.
As for Mr. Trouba, he's always had an edge to his game but what's happened so far in his young career is he's had what I call "Ryan Callahan syndrome" where if you play too physical all the time it's going to lead to you missing 5-15 games a year, which is my "issue" with Trouba. He's THE MAN on this defensive corps so he's needed on the ice. He's going to have to dial it down by 25%.
Machinehead
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This is why you don't give away money because "we're rebuilding."
A year and a half later and we need that money now.
Machinehead
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Howden is prone to the same thing.
He's on 11 all the time and I need him on 8.5. He'd be better defensively if he didn't sprint at the puck as much as he does.
SA16
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Strome is a bigger problem than Namestnikov especially because we could have just bought him out for almost nothing.
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Also especially because he sucks more and because the team will have stupid reasons to bring him back (he's a veteran who does things and stuff).
But this goes back to the point that we never should have brought back Spooner to begin with. Every metric in the world predicted him crashing into a wall.
SA16
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Well they are already starting with that saying how versatile he is. Can play center or wing. Up and down the lineup. Etc.
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Ok, I like guys who can play center and wing but if you suck at both...
Up and down the lineup implies and inherent limitation. Good players just play up in the lineup.
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Yea "up and down the lineup" is the one of the dumbest cliches people say about players. If you can play on the top line you can also play on a lower line as by definition top line players are better than lower line players. If you can play a bottom line you cannot move up without making the above lines worse as there is a reason for it whether it's poor hands, vision or whatever.
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Amazing they could get that so wrong. He was just a zero from the first minute.
Not just them. Brendl was high on everyone’s draft boards. When the Rangers took him, the expectation was that they had just drafted a first line scoring winger, by everyone I can recall.... though I was rather young at the time.
And he showed up and he was just terrible. How could so many scouts miss that?
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I don't think anyone wants Kreider to leave. If it was at all possible to keep him, let's do it. But after last year with Zuc and Hayes (they had much better chances of resigning) the writing is on the wall. I hate these long term contracts they gave this summer that tied our hands. But what's done is done. And Kreids looks like the odd man out.
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He is gonna produce for years I believe. He has always been a strong and healthy specimen. But, most likely he will have a good year playing with Kakko or whoever, and his value will rocket, taking us out of the bidding. When JD said, Kreids having a strong year, will be good for everybody, he meant it. Good for Kreids future contract, good for value in return, good for our cap space and good for whoever trades for him.
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Agreed hated when we got him and his 4 million is impossible to get rid of it seems. JG tried.
Seems like a nice guy and plays hard just not worth even close to what he’s making
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