Post-Game Talk: RANGER vs lightnings

[Casper The Soy Ghost]

Yes, Krav was easily our best player tonight

You really stuck your neck out, just like Kravtson tonight (unfortunately).

May the Kravtsonian force be strong with you.

 

[Nickmo82]

Comfortably on track for an 82-0 season.

 

[Whoot Whoot]

Thought the captain played really well
So did KM (except for that breakaway mess up )

 

[WhereO Is Kakko]

Pretty good game. Like Kakko on that line, PP looked good, Trochek and Panarin look real close to figuring things out good and got some good looks, Laf looked a bit out of place at first but started settling into that line
Defense was mostly good, Jones I liked a lot

Penalties need work, lots of special teams took some time from the kids but they mostly did good

Third line needs somethjng more to it if they’re running that as the top six

Kravtsov if he’s not out long, Blais, just somethjng that makes it a bit more dangerous somehow. Vesey and Goodrowe aren’t that scary and don’t keep possession going that well

But, it’ll get sorted

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Pretty good game. Like Kakko on that line, PP looked good, Trochek and Panarin look real close to figuring things out good and got some good looks, Laf looked a bit out of place at first but started settling into that line
Defense was mostly good, Jones I liked a lot

Penalties need work, lots of special teams took some time from the kids but they mostly did good

Third line needs somethjng more to it if they’re running that as the top six

Kravtsov if he’s not out long, Blais, just somethjng that makes it a bit more dangerous somehow. Vesey and Goodrowe aren’t that scary and don’t keep possession going that well

But, it’ll get sorted

”Vesey and Goodrowe aren’t that scary and don’t keep possession going that well”

Vesey 10-0 Corsi at evens.

Pretty good game. Like Kakko on that line, PP looked good, Trochek and Panarin look real close to figuring things out good and got some good looks, Laf looked a bit out of place at first but started settling into that line
Defense was mostly good, Jones I liked a lot

Penalties need work, lots of special teams took some time from the kids but they mostly did good

Third line needs somethjng more to it if they’re running that as the top six

Kravtsov if he’s not out long, Blais, just somethjng that makes it a bit more dangerous somehow. Vesey and Goodrowe aren’t that scary and don’t keep possession going that well

But, it’ll get sorted

”Vesey and Goodrowe aren’t that scary and don’t keep possession going that well.”

Vesey 10-0 CF at evens. Lol

 

[egelband]

I wanted to see Laf give him another elbow to the jaw. I was there and though Tampa was obstructing the entire period and nothing was called. The refs called it even but after the first EVERYTHING was penalty

When Tampa does it, it’s “veteran savvy” or “gamesmanship”. When a young team or player does it, it’s “undisciplined!” Maroon’s default play along the boards is to grab hold of an opponent’s stick and the refs almost never call it. Guy goes down, you’ll find a Lightning sitting on him. Tap them and they fall over and the coach is screaming at the ref. It works. But it’s craptacular. It reminds me of the old trap days.

 

[egelband]

What are your guys' thoughts on Miller's ceiling vs. peak McDonagh? Higher?

I think they’re completely different types tbh. Miller, to me, generates and leads an attack. McDonagh was more of a complementary offensive player. Defensively McDonagh is a bit more comparable. But still Miller is faster and covers more ground. McDonagh probably hits a bit harder. And very good one on one. It’s very hard to get away from McDonagh.

I always think Miller reminds me more of a young Marc Staal more than anyone I’ve ever seen. Though Miller is faster than Staal ever was.

I never saw Larry Robinson in his prime but I wonder if that’s the prototype Miller should be aiming to be.

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

Felt like we were watching a bunch of pros who've been here before. They were efficient, smart, relentless and skilled with one of the best goalies on earth being the only thing separating them from having a 4 or 5 goal lead. That was a really encouraging game.

I loved when Miller stayed with someone entering the zone early in the game. He gets the puck away and then decides "F*** this guy". Sumo rushes him and bullies him onto his backside with a quick push.

I hated Chytil brainfarting himself into that really bad holding penalty late.

Tough pill for some of you guys to swallow but we are undefeated with Trouba as captain.

Undefeated in the regular szn since I arrived, too. (what an ego)

 

[Ola]

I voted Ryan Reeves. Finished his hits and is Top 50 in the NHL in scoring. Can’t ask for much more.

 

[haohmaru]

Man does he just have a way with words. I can’t imagine how fired up I’d be hearing captain Trouba deliver a speech in the lockerroom going into game 7 OT

If Kravtsov weren't injured he would've said something much more inspirational. In Russian.

 

[GENESISPuck94]

Here's an interesting stat.

Who lead the team in hits last night?

Lafreniere.

4 SOG which was 4th behind players you'd expect (Zib, Kreids, Trouba).

Put him in the top 6 permanently. He didn't hurt the PK, either.

Chytil was 75% on faceoffs. So was Carpenter.

 

[JHS]

Stating the obvious but that’s about as convincing an opening night win as the Rangers could have hoped for. Minus some terrible penalties by Carpenter, it’s nearly as good as could be expected. Outside of the Tampa goaltender stopping about 3 plays he had no business saving, this easily could have been 6-1.

Impressive win and puts the rest of the league on notice— the Rangers are BACK!!

 

[Chytilmania]

So many people are doing him a disservice only showing that part, that whole shift was bonkers

The wolf is back.

 

[GENESISPuck94]

Jones looked very good, against the 3-peat Conference Champs. Can't say he made a single mistake. Even the rush on the outside by (can't recall of the top of my head) he got in the way just enough for Shesterkin to stuff it with his pad. Made some real good break out passes. Sprung Kravtsov. Schneider and him together could be real good.

 

[Chytilmania]

I thought Jones looked great in his own zone. I already ate my crow on KAM in the game day thread but I will go back for seconds. He was a monster tonight. Called Zib with the first goal of the year. They gave Tampa all they could handle tonight. Great game to kick off the season.

The first thought that came to mind was Jones is lefty Fox but not as good/unproven offensively and better defensively.

 

[bleedblue94]

what theme has he acknowledged? to be clear honest question not being sarcastic. im thinking youre referring to him saying something along the lines of them waiting their turn for pp time? if so i mean, thats the way it is. before this season they just didn't show enough for it to be seriously considered that they earned more. this season i feel like gallant has made it clear hes very happy with how theyve come along and where they are and knows theyve earned more. yea sucks about kakko tonight, i agree he was buzzing and wanted to see more. but thats just the way things went btw losing krav and special teams etc...its game 1 of 82. i feel very confident over the course of the season the kids will get their opportunities and be rewarded for taking advantage of them. i just see no reason to worry about the team or how ice time will be allocated after what they showed and the fact its game 1

He flat out said the other day the kids won't get the pp time and need to wait their turns. If you're going to setup to lose them whenever the game turns into special teams for extended periods that's not good. If they can't get PP time then as I said start working them into the pk rotation

Logan Stanley would be a solid addition here depending how the Jets do. Stanley is RFA. Travis Sanheim would be another good addition UFA. Vladimir Guirikov UFA too underrated player. Nikko Mikkola another underrated UFA dman.

I think you'll see another braun type vet, if not Braun himself brought back here again.

 

[GENESISPuck94]

If there's a complaint to be made...

How pop up internet ads has now reached live telecasts of hockey games on the boards.

Those ads on the boards were so distracting and gave me googly eyes at times. Can they at least not be animated?

The only good part was when they had a glitch and left the boards blank white.

 

[Leonardo87]

There really were no complaints with this game, No one played bad, others just played better than others. Was a real nice team effort with Mika showing us why he is a legit Top 1C in the league.

 

[2014nyr]

He flat out said the other day the kids won't get the pp time and need to wait their turns. If you're going to setup to lose them whenever the game turns into special teams for extended periods that's not good. If they can't get PP time then as I said start working them into the pk rotation


I think you'll see another braun type vet, if not Braun himself brought back here again.

ok yea i saw that quote...personally given the way hes talked about the growth of the kids i believe it just means if pp1 is clipping at 30+% again yea theyre gonna go out first and take a min to 1:30 when we get a pp. i mean youd be negligent to not do that. but.....but....going back to the way hes talked about the kids growth, over the course of the season, there's gonna be nights the top unit is awful on a couple and he pulls them early and throws the kids out first next. ideally over time they prove to be equals or close to it producing when they get chances...thats the way you earn it. personally i have zero issue with that. theres a high bar being set for them, make the most of pp time offered and i promise you gallant will go with the group who gives the best chance to score any given night. but pp aside, i mean last night was just a weird game when you have 11 forwards and all that special teams work....its just 1 game as it is and then accounting for krav going down early and the special teams volume its impossible to extrapolate any individual ice time and apply it to expectations for the next 81 games. a lot happens throughout a season. the pieces are here, theyll settle into place. no reason to sound the alarms over ice time after game 1, esp a game 1 the rangers dominated like that

 

[JHS]

It isn't one game, it's a theme here. It's been a theme for years. The coach has acknowledged it as such as well even just last week. We saw during the playoffs how important it is for these kids to be contributors. A guy like kakko showing life for 7 mins in the first period and then getting SIX MINUTES COMBINED in the 2nd and 3rd periods is unacceptable and I have been about as critical of kakko as anyone on this forum for the past 6-10 months. These guys need minutes, especially when they are playing assertive hockey like you want them to give you.

Can we all give up the " kids must play" nonsense. This is not a "development team" anymore. They made the conference finals last year. This team deserves its shot at the cup now while the window is open. This argument of "play the kids so they develop" does not even hold up on any level. The kids ARE DEVELOPING even with their current allocation of time. No one could argue differently. In addition the idea that they have to play in every situation so they can learn from being in that situation is just fundamentally not how players develop. They learn from being around knowledge of more experienced players and sharing in the common experience of being on the team and seeing how others handle situations. It's not like putting the young guys in the situations they are not suited for allows them to develop any quicker. It actually erodes at their confidence!

Some posters on here are still posting like it's the "David Quinn" era( error) and fail to adjust their stance and recognize this team is way better off than anyone could have thought and the kids are contributing and learning from being around a very successful team!

 

[JHS]

I know that they're young but this has to be the best and deepest D corps since I've been watching (00-01). I know Leetch and Zubov were uber studs but were the #5 and #6 defensemen as good with that 94 team? I know that 2014 we had a very solid bottom 1-6, but we didn't have anyone close to Fox, even McDonagh.

Yes Doug Lidster and Jay Wells were absolute great depth d men on the 94 team but the massive difference there was neither Lidster nor Wells were young players and neither was grown by the Rangers. I agree that this current D depth is really strong and rivals any team since 94.

 

[will1066]

Joe - I see only 19 players on the bench, Sam.
Sam - Uh oh.
Joe - Lemme... 1, 2, 10, 14... yep, 19.
Sam - Who is missing?
Joe - I think it's Kravtsov. He hasn't come out from the dressing room.
Sam - Let's hope it's not too serious for the chosen none, Joe.

 

[rangersfansince08]

The first thought that came to mind was Jones is lefty Fox but not as good/unproven offensively and better defensively.

Not better defensively. He is a poor man's Fox in every way imo which is great to have on your third pair

 

[Levitate]

Kakko and Laf got a bit of PK time and will hopefully get more if the coach decides to trust them more
Refs deciding to call a penalty fest after letting everything go in the first didn’t help

Also, McDonaugh was a better skater than Miller and defended better for sure (so far anyways)
His mobility and edge work was better than Millers and straight away speed was probably comparable. He was one of the best skating defenseman in the NHL and didn’t get a lot of recognition for it.
Not sure how good he still is today, haven’t watched him closely and he wasn’t playing the same kind of role in Tampa

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Going to Tampa’s thread and seeing them whine about the flat cap after they’ve pulled such bullshit with the cap the last few years they’ve won is just rich lol

 

[bleedblue94]

Can we all give up the " kids must play" nonsense. This is not a "development team" anymore. They made the conference finals last year. This team deserves its shot at the cup now while the window is open. This argument of "play the kids so they develop" does not even hold up on any level. The kids ARE DEVELOPING even with their current allocation of time. No one could argue differently. In addition the idea that they have to play in every situation so they can learn from being in that situation is just fundamentally not how players develop. They learn from being around knowledge of more experienced players and sharing in the common experience of being on the team and seeing how others handle situations. It's not like putting the young guys in the situations they are not suited for allows them to develop any quicker. It actually erodes at their confidence!

Some posters on here are still posting like it's the "David Quinn" era( error) and fail to adjust their stance and recognize this team is way better off than anyone could have thought and the kids are contributing and learning from being around a very successful team!

if you want win at the end you need everyone able to contribute in multiple roles. it is shortsighted to just focus on the reg season and winning those games only. if you think it is okay for a guy like kakko to play 6 total minutes over the 2nd and 3rd period after he was one of our best players over 7 minutes in the first period then we just wont agree at all. I have been one of kakko's biggest critics recently but he looked engaged and confident, then they basically staple him to the bench. that does nothing to help bring him along. i am not saying they need to be playing 20 a night, but the staff can do better then they have at allocating minutes. we saw in the playoffs what a big affect these younger guys can have when they are going.