OT: Raise the Jolly Roger: New season of plundering begins

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MrBrightside

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The Marlins aren't very good, but wins are wins and it's been fun to watch. Through two games things are really playing out largely as many of us thought the season - very promising offense, solid to potentially excellent bullpen, and very questionable starting pitching. As DJ noted, the schedule is pretty soft out of the gates so taking advantage is important.

Looking forward to Jones today - he's such an important variable to this team all of a sudden.
 

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Loving the start to the season so far. Whats the best way to catch up with daioy leaguenhighlights? Is there a general round-up?
 

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Loving the start to the season so far. Whats the best way to catch up with daioy leaguenhighlights? Is there a general round-up?
If you get the mlb app, and have the Pirates as your favorite team, there is host of options of various Pirates notifications. From scoring updates, finals scores, general news, etc.
 

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Loving the start to the season so far. Whats the best way to catch up with daioy leaguenhighlights? Is there a general round-up?

MLB posts highlight videos of each game on YouTube
This is pretty much the best way. 10 min recaps

You lose a lot of the game within a game stuff and mini events, but it'll give you a good idea of what went down

There's probably 10,000 podcasts done by people as in the know as us and just reading boxscores lol if you really want to dig into full league roundups or something
 

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Reminder for anyone interested that Skenes is pitching for Indy at 2pm EST. It will be on MiLB tv, which I think still comes free with MLB tv, but not sure if there are other options for anyone local to Pittsburgh who doesn't have it for obvious reasons. I've never seen minor league stuff on streaming sites.


Edit: actually seems like it is the free game of the day on MiLB tv, so I think you should be able to watch even without a subscription
 
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Reminder for anyone interested that Skenes is pitching for Indy at 2pm EST. It will be on MiLB tv, which I think still comes free with MLB tv, but not sure if there are other options for anyone local to Pittsburgh who doesn't have it for obvious reasons. I've never seen minor league stuff on streaming sites.


Edit: actually seems like it is the free game of the day on MiLB tv, so I think you should be able to watch even without a subscription
Yep: https://www.mlb.com/news/watch-minor-league-baseball-games-for-free?t=mlb-pipeline-coverage

Skenes looking sharp early. Strikes out the first two batters and gets the third to hit a weak pop up.
 
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DJ Spinoza

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Not entirely sure how many pitches and innings of Skenes should be wasted in AAA.

As few as possible. I genuinely think he should be teed up for 4 innings today. Treat the first month like it's basically spring training to save as many as possible in the tank for later.

It's just 2 innings, but this is some serious MLB The Show type stuff. He's dialing up a pitch and putting it wherever he wants.

I think it might be a little easy to forget that the brief glimpses we saw of Skenes last year were really just exhibition type stuff. He had already pitched the whole season, postseason, then layoff with the draft etc etc. Skenes from now on is fresh Skenes with a winter of preparation. This dude doesn't need a lot of time in the minors.
 

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Me watching Skenes on my computer, *nodding my head to the imaginary Pirates fans sitting all around me, with the knowing 'yeah, we got a good one', smile*.

EDIT: I love how economical his windup and delivery is. Looks little so little movement, then you hear the announcer say "that pitch comes in at a 100".
 
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It's genuinely comical how even AAA hitters just can't touch Skenes' stuff. The idea that a guy just drafted out of college can be this good this quickly is absurd.

If he pitches like this through April, he's going to be in the MLB by May. They'd be better off shutting him down for a month later in the year than wasting innings in AAA by having him pitch there until June or July.

The encouraging thing with Skenes is that he's pretty much not missing on his pitches and he's just outside of the strike zone even if he throws a ball.
 
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His command is insane. He missed his spot on the K in the third and was clearly pissed about it, probably because every other pitch goes exactly where he wants lol.
Yeah, was just about to post the same.

He looks great.

( If we were going to super nitpick about anything, and this is the only thing I couldn't even come up with, is that he went to 3-2 on three batters. K'ing all three, but two of them swung at ball four.)
 

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This is 100% nitpicking with Skenes because he's dominating out there, but I'd like to see him rely on his secondary pitches more as putout pitches than what he has done today. Against Capel that last inning, he just kept peppering 100+ MPH fastballs in basically the same location that Capel kept fouling off. I think he should be mixing it up a bit more than that. I think all but 1 of his strikeouts have been with the fastball.

At the same time, hitters in AAA simply can't catch up to his velocity, so it's hard to be too critical of him relying on his fastball.
 

td_ice

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Skenes out, Lauer in.

Thanks to DJ for the reminder this game was available, I had totally forgot.

Interesting, I didn't know AAA had the ability to challenge a ball/strike call.
 

Empoleon8771

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I don't understand why the Pirates are treating Skenes with baby gloves so far. Skenes threw 130 IP last year and had multiple outings throwing 100+ pitches, but the Pirates basically only used him in short outings in spring and he's only stretched out for 3 innings right now. I really don't understand why they're being so conservative with him, it almost seems intentional to justify keeping him in AAA for longer.

It seems like they're still trying to stretch him out right now, but I'm just confused for why that wasn't done in the spring to begin with.
 
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I think it's probably pretty likely that they want to both save as many innings for later and also not create immediate pressure for a callup. That's putting the cart before the horse a bit, but if he takes the current performance and replicates it over 6 or even 5, well... Bailey Falter is starting tomorrow, not hard to see where that would go.

Skenes with 3 here, maybe 3 again or 4 in the Indy opening homestand next week and the following start. If he's at 5 and dive for the second Indy homestand (4/16-21), that gives you maybe a couple starts like that, then a couple where he's pushed a bit more, but it wouldn't surprise me if 5 or 80 pitches is a de facto limit for a bit, even if he's promoted pretty quick.

Hard to say now, and not worth speculating a ton about after just 3 innings. There may be a period where he has some scuffles, but I sort of doubt it. Looking at the schedule, it's hard not to envision a situation where he is called up by the end of May. The biggest red flag I can see is that the NL ROY race could very well be open enough that he could enter in with a strong enough performance. Yamamoto seemed like a sure thing, but if he has a couple month adjustment period to MLB, it might open a window, and in any case Skenes would only need to finish second for the service to accrue.

Hopefully they just have a plan that's focused on the pitching itself, and positioning him for as strong a professional debut as possible. The rest is noise because this guy is massively important for 2025 and beyond, no matter what happens this year.
 
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DJ Spinoza

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I agree, though seeing Ortiz in a very short stint on opening day was also tantalizing.

There needs to be a bulk option for Falter, so ideally it's Falter get as many outs as possible, Ortiz navigate you through 6. But maybe longer term, Ro and Ortiz can both work out in the pen.
 
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