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OT: Raise the Jolly Roger: New season of plundering begins

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Scandale du Jour said:
I mean, I understand the cynicism, but we will most likely than not have a better record than last season, our starting rotation for next year should be VERY solid.... there are reasons to be optimistic.
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If they would have spent 20-25 million this offseason on bats, this roster would be challenging for the division currently. Pathetic
 
Pretty much couldn't draw up a worse start to this stretch of games.

Fangraphs put that article out several weeks ago that proclaimed the Cardinals were dead and they've been torrid ever since then.
 
They just aren’t a serious organization. The third baseman can’t remember how many outs there are. They can’t slide,,,like as a team.

Suwinski and Grandal are horrible but they’re in the lineup every day. The manager has zero gravitas. The team doesn’t have discipline and he’s responsible for that culture. Meanwhile the GM thinks he’s outsmarting the public because what we are actually seeing with our own eyes apparently doesn’t exist. He should run for office.

Oh and f*** Bob nutting
 
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Well suwinski might have given life back into the game with a 3 run shot

Still just bad to use our challenge back in the first
Keller was shaky at best

Bad first half of game
 
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BusinessGoose said:
Well suwinski might have given life back into the game with a 3 run shot

Still just bad to use our challenge back in the first
Keller was shaky at best

Bad first half of game
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Yeah, not a great start. Especially after your manager has declared you as the "the ace and leader of the staff. He is OUR GUY."
 
Guy on 2nd, no one out. Not even close to a run.

Cherington essentially said the other day he wasn't trading for anyone and they'll have to find answers from within.

I actually believe they want to intentionally lose.
 
So we are using Ortiz in a new role now?

I thought we stretched him out to be a spot starter?
 
Well, 4 runs with this team and Keller on the mound, should be an automatic win. However, we likely wouldn't score those runs if Keller gave up 2 runs and under.

Sad state of affairs.
 
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Well deserved loss but what a lame way to come out after a day off against a division opponent

Put it together tomorrow
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Yeah, I think the reality of competing for playoff spot could be shaping up. With the Cards waking up, we are now 4 games back. With 4 teams to jump over to grab that last spot.

Just treading water ain't gonna cut it.

sovietsanta87 said:
They just aren’t a serious organization. The third baseman can’t remember how many outs there are. They can’t slide,,,like as a team.

Suwinski and Grandal are horrible but they’re in the lineup every day. The manager has zero gravitas. The team doesn’t have discipline and he’s responsible for that culture. Meanwhile the GM thinks he’s outsmarting the public because what we are actually seeing with our own eyes apparently doesn’t exist. He should run for office.

Oh and f*** Bob nutting
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Where the lie at?

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Wow, that's damning. They aren't ready to play coming back.
 
Grandal should have been benched after the lob-toss home steal AND then to keep lobbing it that game and more after

The loss today isn't on him... But he's so often an offensive blackhole. At least someone else struggling, like Suwinski, SOMETIMES hits useful stuff.

The bottom of our order always giving the top of the order one or two outs to start with, sucks. Just f***s up our chance to get runs on the board. They need to fix 6-9 badly.
 
That game has to just be hung on Keller. The team is mediocre enough that we can come up with other reasons, but he got smacked around in 5 innings and that just can't happen.

With the way to Mets look lately, as well as the Cardinals being in good form, this homestand now has some serious bad vibes potential. We might look back and think 2-4 would have been a godsend.

Everything is just so mercurial with this team. Big spotlight on Jones tomorrow after his spot was skipped. Mikolas has not really been in good form at all, but he went 7 IP and 1 hit vs us a few weeks ago. Perez vs Pallante on Thursday is a toss up at best.
 
td_ice said:
Yeah, I think the reality of competing for playoff spot could be shaping up. With the Cards waking up, we are now 4 games back. With 4 teams to jump over to grab that last spot.

Just treading water ain't gonna cut it.
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They’ve done a fine job “treading water” too with this goofy streak that’s now close to 2 months of not having lost more than 2 straight but also not having won more than 2 straight.

Even if they keep that going, if they can’t go at least 4-3 on this homestand, they’re cooked in my mind. And even 4-3, while it keeps the charade going… oh yay, back to 2 games under .500! Need to be better at home against two teams you’re fighting with for a wild card spot if you’re serious. And I don’t think they’re serious.
 
Lost in all the (proper) angst over the shit show offseason additions of Grandal, Taylor, etc., it shouldn't be lost that Hayes has 3 extra-base hits since coming off the DL on May 29 and has an OPS under .600.

Sounds like the Pirates were going to send Suwinski down for Palacios but changed their minds after last night's game. Not a serious organization in any way.
 
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Considering Skenes and Jones graduated, I wouldn’t expect many more than 2 or 3 top-100 prospects for the Pirates at this point. With that said, the fall of Johnson is a huge concern to me.

They really need to move some of these SP prospects for batter help. They have 3 top of the rotation starters locked up for the next 5 years, they don’t need to have a billion top SP prospects.
 
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