OT: Raise the Jolly Roger: Congrats to the Houston Cheaters on their win

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Shut it down Santos.

Bednar needs a trip to the DL. Yikes he's been bad recently.

This is unreal. He is clearly not healthy and Shelton is just going to sit there and watch him lose the game. He's headed straight for the IL. You have to just throw somebody else in there and hope you get lucky.

These are exactly the decisions that should have Shelton fired by now. Up 4, there was no reason to even P Bednar.

Santos has this game over already if they'd have just sent him.
 
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Just saying - if you are having back problems it may seem okay and the velo may be fine, but the release point will be different. The stuff, especially the fastball, looks way less explosive.

It's like what @ImporterExporter said earlier this year about a Keller 97 MPH fastball vs a Bednar 97 MPH fastball. Now we see Bednar with Keller's fastball. Go to the IL.
 
We needed that win given the pitchers the rest of the series and the fact that it's probably Yajure again on Saturday or worse. Kinda weird game in a lot of ways.
 
Raise it!!!

Fire Shelton.

Maybe for swapping Park/Castillo.

If Bednar tells you he's good to go and things check out initially, you gotta throw him in there. Show the confidence in him. This proved to Bednar, Shelton and everybody that he's not right and needs a stint down.

Luckily DLS looks good, Crowe may be rebounding and I think I saw Peters? is nearing a return.

We needed that win given the pitchers the rest of the series and the fact that it's probably Yajure again on Saturday or worse. Kinda weird game in a lot of ways.

Until I see Burrows pitch tomorrow, I'll hold out hope that he's coming up Saturday.
 
Maybe for swapping Park/Castillo.

If Bednar tells you he's good to go and things check out initially, you gotta throw him in there. Show the confidence in him. This proved to Bednar, Shelton and everybody that he's not right and needs a stint down.

Luckily DLS looks good, Crowe may be rebounding and I think I saw Peters? is nearing a return.

Once Perez went yard you sit Bednar down and you give Santos the inning. Non save situation and I think it's clear Bednar isn't 100%.

Just how I'd have handled that 9th.
 
Once Perez went yard you sit Bednar down and you give Santos the inning. Non save situation and I think it's clear Bednar isn't 100%.

Just how I'd have handled that 9th.

I guess, but Bednar's confidence was already fragile. I think a lower stress situation with a 4-run lead made sense.

I'm not saying it was the right choice, just that I can see the rationale.

But as I've said, he isn't trusting his fastball anymore and probably with good reason. He can't blow it by people if he's not 100%.
 
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I don't know who needs to hear this, but Vogelbach is 2nd on the team in ops + and is 13% better than the average hitter.

Yes, he is a slow fat guy. He is a slow fat guy who gets on base and hits the ball hard, which this team does not exactly have in spades outside of some promising young power hitters.

As has been said, they aren't selling jeans out there.
 
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Hellova start to the year for him. Can't imagine it'll be long before he's up with Bradenton, given that team doesn't have much going for it right now.


I believe the nature of Chandler's current development process is best served in the FCL right now, performance be damned.

Yeah, what an intriguing 2-way player.

Solometo and Bubba have really made up for a lot of dreck at the A-ball levels.
Kinda surprised you haven't noticed all the high ceiling Pitchers in Bradenton this year....
 
I don't know who needs to hear this, but Vogelbach is 2nd on the team in ops + and is 13% better than the average hitter.

Yes, he is a slow fat guy. He is a slow fat guy who gets on base and hits the ball hard, which this team does not exactly have in spades outside of some promising young power hitters.

As has been said, they aren't selling jeans out there.
He has been much better in general. I think he will be much more effective when they ban the shift as well.

That said, it drives me crazy when players pimp questionable home runs. Why not take the extra base. There was no one on. And I'm pretty sure it's a fact that multiple players on this team would have SCORED on that ball that he only reached 2nd on. From the time the ball left his bat until McCutchen picked it up, it must have been 10 seconds at least.

I believe the nature of Chandler's current development process is best served in the FCL right now, performance be damned.


Kinda surprised you haven't noticed all the high ceiling Pitchers in Bradenton this year....

Which orgs are stuffing their Low A affiliates with flotsam and jetsam anymore?

The A ball levels holistically are not filled with interesting prospects. Solo, Chandler and Endy are very good prospects. There isn't that much else.
 
Braylon Bishop showing out pretty well so far as well, though he seems like a long shot/project type with better than average potential.

Only guy who hasn't done anything from last year's draft haul is Lonnie White, and he's on the 60 day IL so might not see him this year, which is a bummer. He showed some pop in limited AB's last year in rookie ball.
I would definitely think about it. Peguero, Bae, Castro, Swaggerty, Gonzales could all be nice players, but getting a bounce back/ok floor SP with 4 years of control would be a good use of depth, i.e., prospect capital, as painful as it is to use that phrase. There are obvious differences of pedigree and risk in that list, but if you believed in Rogers to bounce back especially, then it would be a pretty easy gamble to take for me. The downside would be if Rogers control never got right and instead of the floor being a solid #3/4, it's more of a replacement/depth guy.

It's nice to see that Chandler has started scorching hot and it will be interesting to see when and how he adjusts to low A. People say that there's a pretty big leap from complex league to affiliated ball, but in the early going it certainly seems like it's worth challenging him. How slow they take it may depend on some behind the scenes stuff with developing pitches - at least that's my guess.

Just pointing out the obvious, but it's worth emphasizing that Chandler is essentially a mid-first round talent, so expectations should be pretty high that he start rising into the top ranks on a prospect list once he gets another year or so of experience under his belt.
Given the nature of the player and the Organization, I believe he's where he needs to be. He's surrounded by the right coaches, in the right environment. The coaching low in our Minor Leagues has exploded in quality. The focus are fundamentals, how to drive your own development, and then more fundamentals. The Pirates want to develop complete players, we're not going to have guys come up anymore that can't run the bases well. Now, they get quality training on that right from the start. Just one example.

He needs at least another month in Florida IMO. It's tough to lay quality foundations for a Hitter and a Pitcher at the same time. And the FCL is about to get harder after the College guys show up. I say keep him there.
 
I'm probably beating a dead horse, but watching this team makes me really disappointed that Roberto Perez got injured for the year earlier this year.

Just a devastating injury for this team. He had everything you needed from a veteran leader, and was amazing with the Pitchers.
 
He has been much better in general. I think he will be much more effective when they ban the shift as well.

That said, it drives me crazy when players pimp questionable home runs. Why not take the extra base. There was no one on. And I'm pretty sure it's a fact that multiple players on this team would have SCORED on that ball that he only reached 2nd on. From the time the ball left his bat until McCutchen picked it up, it must have been 10 seconds at least.



Which orgs are stuffing their Low A affiliates with flotsam and jetsam anymore?

The A ball levels holistically are not filled with interesting prospects. Solo, Chandler and Endy are very good prospects. There isn't that much else.
Yeah clearly we have a fundamental disconnect in how we view baseball and development. How we view prospects. It's going to take a few years to see who's right.
 
It is a little bit interesting that we've got Solometo up to Bradenton already, but I think the x-factor with Chandler is probably the two-way question. The complex leagues are a bit of a developmental black box and the low minors in general seem to be places where cliched adages about patience ring true.

Chandler seems like he's crushing on both sides of the ball, but you don't want him to go to Bradenton and get worked over at the plate and then have the two-way thing be a question. It's such a unique mold that I find it hard to guess what the best option is. Not sure he stays in the FCL for the entire rest of the season, but maybe another few weeks, which leaves time for a 6 week cup of coffee or so in Bradenton, where he also probably starts next year.
 
It is a little bit interesting that we've got Solometo up to Bradenton already, but I think the x-factor with Chandler is probably the two-way question. The complex leagues are a bit of a developmental black box and the low minors in general seem to be places where cliched adages about patience ring true.

Chandler seems like he's crushing on both sides of the ball, but you don't want him to go to Bradenton and get worked over at the plate and then have the two-way thing be a question. It's such a unique mold that I find it hard to guess what the best option is. Not sure he stays in the FCL for the entire rest of the season, but maybe another few weeks, which leaves time for a 6 week cup of coffee or so in Bradenton, where he also probably starts next year.

Keep in mind the FCL gets much harder soon, with all the college players coming in from the draft.

The thing about Solometo is he's been completely obsessed with baseball while getting great great coaching for 4 years now. Mentally he's extremely advanced, and he has a ton of velocity he doesn't use regularly. He's normally throwing 4-5mph under what he could.

Chandler on the other hand only really committed to playing baseball last year. Before that it was more of a secondary sport behind football. He's miles behind Solameto because of that. And I think he's right where he needs to be, as is Solo.
 
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Did you have a microphone/recorder on this guy? I appreciate you sharing this but I'm curious.

Assuming all of this to be accurate, excusing giving away Glasnow because the organization had a pitching coach that couldn't work with him is a pretty damning indictment. The fact he got hurt will make this look less bad than it was, but it was horrible with or without Baz.

And yes, most prospects don't pan out. It's why the "2025 NLCS LINEUP" projections that assume all of Gonzales and Swaggerty and Bae and Marcano and Cruz and Peguero and Martin will work out make me crazy. If you get 3 regulars and 2 impact guys out of that collection, you've done better than most.

Speaking of "insane" optimism about a player, In 252 plate appearances since April 18, Hayes is hitting .240/,318/.347/,664.
 
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Did you have a microphone/recorder on this guy? I appreciate you sharing this but I'm curious.

Assuming all of this to be accurate, excusing giving away Glasnow because the organization had a pitching coach that couldn't work with him is a pretty damning indictment. The fact he got hurt will make this look less bad than it was, but it was horrible with or without Baz.

And yes, most prospects don't pan out. It's why the "2025 NLCS LINEUP" projections that assume all of Gonzales and Swaggerty and Bae and Marcano and Cruz and Peguero and Martin will work out make me crazy. If you get 3 regulars and 2 impact guys out of that collection, you've done better than most.

Speaking of "insane" optimism about a player, In 252 plate appearances since April 18, Hayes is hitting .240/,318/.347/,664.

Hey man, he knows he's talking to regular fans. He's not going to dive deep into all the reasons a bunch of guys you haven't likely heard of could make it. At least, that's been my take.
 
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