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New Mock from McDaniel at ESPN who I value more than most:

Has us going Collier (30% likelihood) and says we're in on only college bats otherwise which means you're almost certainly looking at Lee/Parada.

Says Rangers want Jones, Holliday, Parada in that order. O's are 60% on Jones. Green falls to 9 which is the biggest slide I've seen him on yet.

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DocEmrickSkitters said:
I agree. Just let him play and wait and see.

He had an adjustment period to AA and a pretty significant one to AAA.

I still think there's a right tail Aaron Judge outcome. Or a good chance at being a "Pedro Alvarez but can run and throw" 3-4WAR player. I guess I've gotten a little overly perturbed by the Rumbunters and the Kody Duncans and all of that overselling how high the floor is.

The prospect evaluators knew how hard he could hit/throw a baseball and about his raw athleticism. They had him ranked 20th-40th in the game anyway.

In the end the first little bit has been about as I expected. I think he continues to scare the bejeezus out of any average or below righty and gets more competitive against tough pitching and lefties.

I'll still take Henry Davis and probably Roansy though if we're talking prospects in our system today.
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This is mos def a deadball year. Baseballs have been inconsistent, leaning heavily towards the slow side.
 
As best as I can tell, the crux is that the Nationals could have challenged the play and didn't. I don't understand how Suwinski is even able to legally score given that he didn't tag, but I guess this arcane rule applies somehow.

Doesn't seem like it's gonna matter, as Keller looks to shit the bed here in the 5th. Park needs to field that ball but Keller's been awful, there's no other way to slice it.

Park has shown some flashes in this callup but he's also been iffy at times. I think he has to be one of the guys who gets the axe: Newman, Gamel, Marcano for Chang, Park, and Castillo (on a bit of ST manipulation). DFA Yoshi if you think VanMeter can stick.
 
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As best as I can tell, the crux is that the Nationals could have challenged the play and didn't. I don't understand how Suwinski is even able to legally score given that he didn't tag, but I guess this arcane rule applies somehow.

Doesn't seem like it's gonna matter, as Keller looks to shit the bed here in the 5th. Park needs to field that ball but Keller's been awful, there's no other way to slice it.

Park has shown some flashes in this callup but he's also been iffy at times. I think he has to be one of the guys who gets the axe: Newman, Gamel, Marcano for Chang, Park, and Castillo (on a bit of ST manipulation). DFA Yoshi if you think VanMeter can stick.
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Suwinski couldn't legally score, but the Nats left the field before appealing that he didn't tag up. If the Nats appealed then the third basemen stepping on the bag for the 4th out would have negated the run.

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Timeline of the confusing play:

- Bell catches ball for out #2
- Bell throws to third baseman, who is off the bag, as Suwinski scores without tagging up
- Umpire counts the run as scored, Pirates lead 4-3
- Third baseman tags Park, who had advanced from second to third without tagging up for the 3rd out
- Third baseman steps on third base for the 4th out

If the Nats appealed that Suwinski did not tag up, the 4th out would negate the 3rd out tag of Park, resulting in Suwinski being out at third and the run would not count. However, the Nats left the field before appealing whether Suwinski had tagged, so the final out was the tag on Park and the unappealed run counts.
 
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I can't believe the complete lack of awareness players have today, how do you get to the highest level of the game and know nothing about it.
 
ImporterExporter said:
New Mock from McDaniel at ESPN who I value more than most:

Has us going Collier (30% likelihood) and says we're in on only college bats otherwise which means you're almost certainly looking at Lee/Parada.

Says Rangers want Jones, Holliday, Parada in that order. O's are 60% on Jones. Green falls to 9 which is the biggest slide I've seen him on yet.

www.espn.com

2022 MLB Mock Draft 2.0: There's a new name in the mix for the No. 1 overall pick

We're less than three weeks from draft day. Here's who your team is zeroing in on.
www.espn.com www.espn.com
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This is definitely interesting. Callis and Mayo are also in on the possibility of Johnson going 1.1 for the biggest shave to the Orioles, and they mention that the only thing known for sure is that they are targeting 5 players, presumably the top prep guys minus Holliday and Lee.

It seems like there's lot of smoke around the Orioles not taking Jones, and near total certainty that he won't get past the DBacks. It then makes a lot of sense that the Rangers would jump on Holliday, leaving Collier, Jones, Lee, and Parada for us.

I think my gut instinct for who to root for at this point is just Collier. He has the great upside and probably allows us to take at least another big swing, maybe even two, which is definitely the strategy that BC and Sanders seem to prefer. I would almost rather see us nab Parada than Lee. The dude can really rake, and there's so much attrition with catcher anyways, and even in the event that both are good, you can utilize the DH + 1B as well because their bats are good enough. I just don't get the appeal of Lee, who is not going to stick at shortstop from what I'm seeing.
 
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Reynolds traded in a month if he keeps this up. Will someone overpay?
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I think the odds are at least 50/50. I don't think it makes sense to do it, but whether it happens or not will tell us quite a bit about the plans for the immediate future.

I still think he makes for a fine extension candidate. Maybe easy to say on a day like today, but even if he's 0- today, he's having an overall kind of down year and he's going to end up with around 3 WAR. His skills aren't going to deteriorate significantly IMO and he's probably going to have another 1 or 2 years like last year. He's immensely valuable, and still quite helpful even if moved to a corner. I don't really see a path to contending over the next couple of years where he's not in the mix. Maybe there's a team that gives you the right combo of pitching, but a trade where he's in the deal just seems like a trade you lose.
 
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Let's not trade Reynolds please. He's performing at a level now that the Pirates can afford to re-sign while he'll still be a very valuable player for the Pirates.

The best case scenario with him was him declining into just a "very good" 3-4 WAR player, and the Pirates paying him similar to what the Dodgers gave AJ Pollock (5 years, $60 million). He's declined a bit, so I want to see them throw a reasonable contract to extend him.
 
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I think the odds are at least 50/50. I don't think it makes sense to do it, but whether it happens or not will tell us quite a bit about the plans for the immediate future.

I still think he makes for a fine extension candidate. Maybe easy to say on a day like today, but even if he's 0- today, he's having an overall kind of down year and he's going to end up with around 3 WAR. His skills aren't going to deteriorate significantly IMO and he's probably going to have another 1 or 2 years like last year. He's immensely valuable, and still quite helpful even if moved to a corner. I don't really see a path to contending over the next couple of years where he's not in the mix. Maybe there's a team that gives you the right combo of pitching, but a trade where he's in the deal just seems like a trade you lose.
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I don't want him traded to be frank, just seems like he's at least 50/50 as you say. I'd think Cherington would have to be blown away given we know teams have already made offers or some sort of framework over the last year.

The only scenario where I could see this making some sense, is A, if the payment is very strong on paper for us, and said payment involves upper minors players, basically at least 2 guys who are top prospects and playing in AA/AAA.

I do wonder what the emergence of Gorski means from an org. depth chart perspective. Gorski has an absolute cannon and is quite athletic so it reasons he's probably the new "guy" as far as OF prospects go, though we need to temper our expectations as we saw Fraizer replicating Gorski last year and more or less take a dump when he jumped to Altoona, though Gorski has continued hitting well above the bar in AA.

Another walk for Cruz. He's learning.
 
I'll be surprised if we win this game. Walking Robles is disaster level bad. He's like a pitcher spot.
 
Nice win, great game by Reynolds and I was very pleased with Cruz at the plate. Sucks that he got thrown out trying to steal, but I want to see him be aggressive on the bases.
 
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