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Player Discussion Rafaël Harvey-Pinard

BLONG7 said:
Keep this kid up in the lineup, and waive the likes of Drouin and Armia......they have no value at all.
The kid deserves to stay up that's for sure.
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This is all true. And has been since the start of the year.

The thing is, RHP has been really bad for the tank. Drouin, Armia, Dadonov, and Hoffman, aside from sporadic contributions, have been really good for the tank. The season is lost. Whatever's best for the tank, in this very important draft, is what should rule. I'm seriously afraid of what RHP will do to the tank. I mean I think he should stay up. And I definitely have him penciled into the forward corps next year. But if we're going to keep him up this year, we need to make other moves to help the tank...
 
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Ezpz said:
More goals than Gally would have scored in 82 this year. Time to call Bergevin and Blake and ask if LA want Gally for anything.
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They don't.

Our only hope is LTIR at some point.

Tetragrammaton said:
Starting off his NHL career pretty well so far:

13gp 7g 2a 9p +3

This season:

9gp 6g 2a 8p +5
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And how many times has he set up Anderson, and the Anderson misses??

But Anderson has done good things on that line with RHP and Suzuki.
 
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ZUKI said:
He works really well with Suzuki, so i think that we should trade Caufield + our 1st round for a younger player named Bedard :naughty:
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yeah and trade back for caufield in less than 20 games when pinard’s shooting percentage of 35% will fall back down to earth.
 
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26Mats said:
Yeah Gallagher could really drive the puck to the net, out of the blue. That was his way of driving play, creating something out of nothing. RHP can't do that. But I like his offensive IQ.
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hum... not really.
In fact....Not at all .
Gallagher was just going in front of the net , on the face of the goalie , taken rebounds.

Never had a big hockey IQ , never has been good to make passes, to make the play. It' s obvious this season, because he tried to control the puck and it never worked.

RHP is a hard worker as much as Gallagher. But he sees the game, his linemates, the open areas . Maybe he won't score as much goals as Gallagher during his best seasons, but he's gonna be a better player in all the other aspects of the game.
 
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Clearly he wont keep up with his current pace but to me he does a lot of the little things that can make him an effective NHLer like winning board battles, going to the net and his hockey sense. This gives me hope he can be more effective whenever his stats regress. He is also a great fit with Suzuki and gives the Habs an idea of the type of player to put with Caufield and Suzuki.
 
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donghabs98 said:
Clearly he wont keep up with his current pace but to me he does a lot of the little things that can make him an effective NHLer like winning board battles, going to the net and his hockey sense. This gives me hope he can be more effective whenever his stats regress. He is also a great fit with Suzuki and gives the Habs an idea of the type of player to put with Caufield and Suzuki.
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Totally agree. RHP looks like a versatile player.

Compare that to pouliot who went on an absolute heater that first year he played with the Habs... But when that dried up, what else does he bring? That's why he didn't last long here. RHP otoh can still be an asset with or without the massive production.

Thats not to say he is a lock to be an nhler for years to come, but he has the makeup to give himself a fair shot at it.
 
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I view RHP as a new Paul Byron-type. They obviously have different skillset but i am talking in a role point of view.

Despite his hot streak, RHP is ultimately a bottom six player who would bring some offense and intensity. He has the hands and scoring touch to play up in the line-up and on the PP in case of injury and he has the skills to play the PK. A swiss knife, polyvalent player who can play anywhere in the line-up, like Byron.
 
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He can be a Hyman-type player for us. Where that falls in terms of points remains to be seen, but let's see how far he can go in this unique opportunity of 30+ games.
 
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RHP was successful at every level he's played in. The way he produced in the Q, if he were 2 inches taller he would have been drafted in the 2nd or 3rd round probably. But no one took his numbers seriously I think in part due to his size, but also his reputation as a worker.

Amazing 7th round value.

I seriously don't know if this kid is ever coming out of the top 6. I know he's not going to continue to shoot 30%+, but even if he comes down to what he's produced in the AHL, he's still a tenacious top 6 level player on a lot of teams, including the Habs.

I think we might be honestly looking at a perennial 60-65 point player eventually, in his prime, when the whole team is flowing. If they ever get to that point at least. He'd be a perfect compliment to Caufield on Suzuki's left. And Dach can eventually work with Slafkovsky and just pummel teams in between.
 
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The interesting part is that his production has not just been a matter of luck. He's legit creating multiple chances out there. He's in the right place to receive passes, he makes good passes, he makes space for himself and he's constantly first a loose pucks.

He's obviously not going to be a 50 goal scorer, but right now I am seeing the talent of a 20-20 guy. It's not that pucks are magically going off his ass every other game. He's creating every game, something you don't see from 4th line players.

Of course, the nhl season is a grind and consistency in terms of pace is what sets folks apart. Can RHP play with this kind of pace for 82 games? I think that's what will determine how successful of an offensive player he is.
 
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brakeyawself said:
RHP was successful at every level he's played in. The way he produced in the Q, if he were 2 inches taller he would have been drafted in the 2nd or 3rd round probably. But no one took his numbers seriously I think in part due to his size, but also his reputation as a worker.

Amazing 7th round value.

I seriously don't know if this kid is ever coming out of the top 6. I know he's not going to continue to shoot 30%+, but even if he comes down to what he's produced in the AHL, he's still a tenacious top 6 level player on a lot of teams, including the Habs.

I think we might be honestly looking at a perennial 60-65 point player eventually, in his prime, when the whole team is flowing. If they ever get to that point at least. He'd be a perfect compliment to Caufield on Suzuki's left. And Dach can eventually work with Slafkovsky and just pummel teams in between.
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That would be awesome if he could be a perennial 60-65 points but that might be a bit too optimistic in my opinion, although not impossible.

He has a very nice touch around the net but i don't think he has that top-6 offensive skills. I personally view him more as a Paul Byron type. All-role player who can play up or down in the line-up and who can rack 15-20 goals and 30-40 points. Very valuable depth player.
 
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Armia under his new awful contract: 9 goals in 93 games
Gallagher under his new awful contract: 11 goals in 81 games

RHP in 13 games: 7 goals

Great job Bergevin.

Andy said:
The interesting part is that his production has not just been a matter of luck. He's legit creating multiple chances out there. He's in the right place to receive passes, he makes good passes, he makes space for himself and he's constantly first a loose pucks.

He's obviously not going to be a 50 goal scorer, but right now I am seeing the talent of a 20-20 guy. It's not that pucks are magically going off his ass every other game. He's creating every game, something you don't see from 4th line players.

Of course, the nhl season is a grind and consistency in terms of pace is what sets folks apart. Can RHP play with this kind of pace for 82 games? I think that's what will determine how successful of an offensive player he is.
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He's also looking like a guy who can play up and down in the lineup and not look out of place.

If he's on the 4th line he is creating energy and chipping in some points. On the 1st line he is still creating plays offensively and going to the areas he needs to in order to produce offensively.
 
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