This guy is flat out our best player now, and it's odd that he isn't referred to as such. Could go down as the best Canuck ever.
Player Discussion Quinn Hughes, Pt. VII
- Thread starter Zombotron
- Start date
-
Work is still on-going to rebuild the site styling and features. Please report any issues you may experience so we can look into it. Click Here for Updates
PavelBure10
The Russian Rocket
I haven't posted in quite sometime. Enjoying the Osoyoos heat in the Okanagan.
Was quite shocked to see Quinn Hughes so far down in the votes for the Norris trophy candidates. Rediculous to see the young star defenseman who really upped the defensive side of his game get shafted from the rest of the league. Hughes had the best plus/minus is his career (+15), while nearly putting up a point per game on one of the worst defensive cores in the league. Quinn was nothing short of amazing this season, and "at this point in time" has become really underrated around the NHL.
Looking forward to seeing this kid up his game even more next season, and finally make those doubters who still think he's a defensive liability eat crow.
Was quite shocked to see Quinn Hughes so far down in the votes for the Norris trophy candidates. Rediculous to see the young star defenseman who really upped the defensive side of his game get shafted from the rest of the league. Hughes had the best plus/minus is his career (+15), while nearly putting up a point per game on one of the worst defensive cores in the league. Quinn was nothing short of amazing this season, and "at this point in time" has become really underrated around the NHL.
Looking forward to seeing this kid up his game even more next season, and finally make those doubters who still think he's a defensive liability eat crow.
One day, if he stays healthy, Hughes will win a Norris. And that would automatically make him the best d-men to ever lace them up for the Canucks.
Haha, I've been saying that for two years.
Pettersson racked up over 100 points last year and was absolutely brilliant, but this team is nothing without Huggy Bear.
- Oct 26, 2019
- 2,269
- 3,557
I didn't say anyone had it out for us. I said that in the Canadian division, the one time eastern media saw him play often, he was a huge defensive liability. That perception has stuck and so he doesn't get the hype he deserves. Eastern media drives these narratives and someone that good on the Leafs would be seen daily and gotten more votes. That doesn't mean they have it out for us it just means they don't watch our games as much or report on us as much as the Leafs (which are a bigger market with way more fans - hence more media focus). He will eventually get the credit he deserves but it will take a lot longer than it would if he played out east.
- Nov 12, 2021
- 9,861
- 8,832
Peen
Rejoicing in a Benning-free world
- Oct 6, 2013
- 32,072
- 28,676
What Hughes showed defensively at the NHL level last year was far from anything he had shown previously. If you only saw a few games, it’s hard to shake a narrative that was built years prior. It’s the reason Hughes makes 7.8 and not more - that contract wasn’t a slam dunk the moment it was signed.
Everyone knew what Hughes could do. But his defensive performance over three years had you questioning whether he could elevate above being a guy who needed an elite defensive dman to carry him in second pair matchups.
Like it was a fair question as to whether if he was alongside a middling guy as to whether or not he could succeed defensively or if he’d really be best suited being sheltered against opponent bottom sixes.
I think those who hear no evil, see no evil like to pretend this wasn’t the case but Hughes commentary shows that even he knew that he wasn’t good enough before. The level shown last year was an enormous jump. Huge.
I always thought we’d just have to be OK with him not being on the same level as a guy like Fox defensively but he looked better than Fox. He was so disruptive all over the ice.
I think he also should be given the C over EP without question. And any suggestions of Miller with the C are unbelievably stupid.
Everyone knew what Hughes could do. But his defensive performance over three years had you questioning whether he could elevate above being a guy who needed an elite defensive dman to carry him in second pair matchups.
Like it was a fair question as to whether if he was alongside a middling guy as to whether or not he could succeed defensively or if he’d really be best suited being sheltered against opponent bottom sixes.
I think those who hear no evil, see no evil like to pretend this wasn’t the case but Hughes commentary shows that even he knew that he wasn’t good enough before. The level shown last year was an enormous jump. Huge.
I always thought we’d just have to be OK with him not being on the same level as a guy like Fox defensively but he looked better than Fox. He was so disruptive all over the ice.
I think he also should be given the C over EP without question. And any suggestions of Miller with the C are unbelievably stupid.
canuckking1
Registered User
- Feb 8, 2015
- 12,959
- 14,115
I feel like the narratives were built on a single season. Hughes has played 4 years in the league with 3 ranging from Good to excellent and one being horrific. Realistically his bounce back year in 2022 followed by another strong season this year should’ve dispelled the old narratives. Guess it doesn’t help that his one horrific season was the one with the most coverage.
Tim Calhoun
#11
- May 31, 2006
- 10,484
- 1,368
Pretty good case to be made that he’s already the greatest d-man in franchise history.
lawrence
Registered User
- May 19, 2012
- 16,671
- 7,579
not only this, Pettersson is top 5 among forwards with the most blocked shots.
0 votes for Selke.
they literally want to bend us over and screw us over and over again.
- Nov 12, 2021
- 9,861
- 8,832
Good.
The harder they work and the higher the expectations, the better our players get.
Only a fool would think of being underrated by the league is a bad thing.
There’s a reason Quinn worked hard on his defence because he wanted to prove he is a good defender
vadim sharifijanov
Registered User
- Oct 10, 2007
- 30,103
- 18,561
am i misunderstanding this post?
petey got 43 votes for the selke, including 6 second place votes. which tbh is pretty fair imo.
From NHL.com
It wasn’t hard to Google this. All voting results are publicly available.
7. | Elias Pettersson, VAN | 163 | (0-6-15-12-10) |
lawrence
Registered User
- May 19, 2012
- 16,671
- 7,579
Even more shocking considering I’m in the middle of a Japanese jungle and the Wi-Fi is very spotty here.
- Nov 12, 2021
- 9,861
- 8,832
Hughes' rookie year was very good but most of it was playing sheltered minutes with Tanev as a babysitter. When his minutes were upped he got shredded, and that continued through 20-21 when they put him into higher-leverage and he struggled badly.
He righted the ship and started to grow into being a guy who could handle high-leverage minutes in 21-22 and then absolutely started blowing the doors off those minutes over the final 50 games or so of 22-23.
Eh ... to me he was better defensively than Mitch Marner last year and plays C instead of wing but Marner was a Selke finalist.
Man, it helps to play for the Leafs.
strattonius
Registered User
vadim sharifijanov
Registered User
- Oct 10, 2007
- 30,103
- 18,561
I mean his defensive metrics are still better than everyone else. If there’s a better defensive forward, they would’ve won it.
Barkov missed 15 games and also man did he look nowhere near his former self in the playoffs this year. Absolutely I think Pettersson was better than Lindholm this year.
Agreed that JEE is criminally underrated, though.
As much as I absolutely hate all of the sports betting crap shoved down our throats, small stuff like this is really what starts to build the narrative that leads to votes, so it's a good start for Hughes' side of things.
Ad
Upcoming events
-
-
-
-
Australian Open - Men Jannik Sinner vs Alex De MinaurWagers: 2Staked: $2,700.00Event closes- Updated:
-