Quinn Hughes Mega thread: Top in points, Norris consideration, MVP and Canucks fans hearts

  • Work is still on-going to rebuild the site styling and features. Please report any issues you may experience so we can look into it. Click Here for Updates
I've been a Canuck fan for 30 odd years, this is the first time I can confidently say we have a legit Norris contender (not future Norris candidate), playing for the team. Let that sink in.
Hughes is an incredible player having an even better start to the season, a Norris contender who should be the front runner and clearly the best D the Canucks have ever had. You’re underrating Edler’s 10-11 season pre-injury, for this to be the first time the Canucks have had a Norris contender though. He would’ve been right up there had he not gone down especially when Lidstrom won that year as a minus player.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Farmboy Patty
I don't like these sorts of threads on the main boards, but on the other hand, this guy deserves some exposure. It's amazing how some people still recite old stereotypes, and this type of exposure is really the only way to break them.

He has done nothing but get better and better, year after year. This year has just been at another level, as he is easily our best player on both ends of the ice.

It would really be something if he could keep close to this pace for the majority of the season. He would be a runaway for the Norris if he could, but we still have 7/8th of the season to go. In either case, exceptional start by an exceptional player.
 
Last edited:
You're referring to Dom? Oh he is aware.... Kind of Cavalier about it too. He deserves to have his face rubbed in it.😂
I don't know who it was. I was just following the lead of the guy I quoted, who I don't think identified the guy.

But it's cool of you to confirm the guy's hearing about it. Thanks. :thumbu:
 
I don't know who it was. I was just following the lead of the guy I quoted, who I don't think identified the guy.

But it's cool of you to confirm the guy's hearing about it. Thanks. :thumbu:
It wasn't Dom, but an unnamed scout/hockeyman quoted in his article. That being said Dom thought enough of the absolutely useless quote to run with it.

Maybe not nearly as bad as the ESPN ranking that had Hughes at 60 below a bunch of forwards he's outscored but other defenders he's clearly better then, ie Seth Jones.
 
That was well written but it kind of strengthened my point. WE are now the ones obsessing. I haven't seen it from them. Yes they are being forced to realize that Quinn is as good, so what? That's a good thing.

Not to mention it was mostly 3 or 4 avs fans, speficically Spinorama and avsfan
and they have been nowhere to be found. Are we being any better right now?
That's because they have nothing to say regarding Hughes. Before this season they were gloating, and saying how Hughes was only a glorified PP specialist or nothing but a Barrie and now we are dishing out what they served right in their face. It's also because even eastern media disrespected Hughes and Hughes had to speak out about the fact that he was not a defensive liability. Now they are quiet because they have to eat crow. As someone who always defended Hughes on this forum, am glad Hughes is becoming better and better and proving naysayers wrong.
 
Objectively speaking, there's no denying it that Makar is the best offensive player at defense consistently in the league. It was always above everybody else (you could argue Karlsson at times, but he never played winning hockey). With that said, Makar's defense has never been otherworldly (never bad, but never elite in my opinion). He's had great partners to back him up.

Now with that said, Hughes was never on Makar's level for offense. I figured after year 2 he'd get there but he never did.

Until this year. This year he finally took that step forward offensively he should have taken but rather he focused his energy to learn the defensive side of the game after his 2nd year when called out (and rightfully so) on being bad defensively. When challenged, he stepped up to the plate and over several years significantly improved his defensive game. Last year Hughes was elite defensively, despite having absolutely nobody to play with. He was the only defender on the Canucks with positive defensive metrics and when EVERY OTHER CANUCKS DEFENDER played with him, they went from being negative defensive players to positive defensive players due to Hughes.

This year, he has that elite defensive capability from the past season and he has Makar level offense. He's without a doubt the best defender in the league thus far (Fox in my opinion is the only one close).

It's absolutely incredible to finally see him unlucky his potential because it was always there, he just never played with that risk after year 1. Now that he's comfortable with the defensive side of the game and having finally a competent partner, we are seeing him take those offensive risks he couldn't afford to in the past.

He's having a ridiculous season and in my opinion the most impressive one I've seen in this short sample size since Lidstrom.
I would say Hughes not having a reliable partner for many years maybe did him a service as he improved his defensive game vastly to the point where he could be paired with anyone and still look good. Now he is reaping the reward of how his defensive game has improved and paired with a good partner can show his offensive skills more now.

Amazing night for Quinn but let's not forget this is the winless sharks. I bet Brett Kulak could put up a 5 pt night against SJ too.
I doubt that. Avs barely beat SJ and gave their only point this season. 8 other teams played SJ and I don't think any of their players had a 5 point night against SJ.
 
Objectively speaking, there's no denying it that Makar is the best offensive player at defense consistently in the league. It was always above everybody else (you could argue Karlsson at times, but he never played winning hockey). With that said, Makar's defense has never been otherworldly (never bad, but never elite in my opinion). He's had great partners to back him up.

Now with that said, Hughes was never on Makar's level for offense. I figured after year 2 he'd get there but he never did.

Until this year. This year he finally took that step forward offensively he should have taken but rather he focused his energy to learn the defensive side of the game after his 2nd year when called out (and rightfully so) on being bad defensively. When challenged, he stepped up to the plate and over several years significantly improved his defensive game. Last year Hughes was elite defensively, despite having absolutely nobody to play with. He was the only defender on the Canucks with positive defensive metrics and when EVERY OTHER CANUCKS DEFENDER played with him, they went from being negative defensive players to positive defensive players due to Hughes.

This year, he has that elite defensive capability from the past season and he has Makar level offense. He's without a doubt the best defender in the league thus far (Fox in my opinion is the only one close).

It's absolutely incredible to finally see him unlucky his potential because it was always there, he just never played with that risk after year 1. Now that he's comfortable with the defensive side of the game and having finally a competent partner, we are seeing him take those offensive risks he couldn't afford to in the past.

He's having a ridiculous season and in my opinion the most impressive one I've seen in this short sample size since Lidstrom.

Agreed, except that this started in the 2nd half of last season. That he was only 9th in Norris voting was a bit of a joke - he was the best defender in the NHL in the last 40 games.
 
  • Like
Reactions: SiZ
Those secondary assists are well earned. He starts out behind the net and evades the forecheck, like 100% of the time, then makes an excellent up ice pass.
It was a joke as several people seem to try and drag others for secondary assists and try to pump up someone for primary points, etc.
 
It was a joke as several people seem to try and drag others for secondary assists and try to pump up someone for primary points, etc.
Secondary assists showed more to the eyes than primary assists due to other type of play that would have opened up a primary assist, leaving defender in a bit scramble, leaving the shooter open for a goal. Secondary assists show a lot of value to the point system in the NHL.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Farmboy Patty
Hughes is a top Defenseman in this league...but not quite the best. I'd still take Makar and Fox over him, I'd have him up there with Heiskanen, Josi, and Karlsson..very elite company. There's a ton of great Defenseman. Slavin, Toews, Pesce.
 
  • Like
Reactions: LemonSauceD
Hughes is a top Defenseman in this league...but not quite the best. I'd still take Makar and Fox over him, I'd have him up there with Heiskanen, Josi, and Karlsson..very elite company. There's a ton of great Defenseman. Slavin, Toews, Pesce.

In any given year going forward, I'd definitely agree, Makar and Fox over him and he's up there in the same tier with Heiskanen. With that being said, for this year, he's been the best defenseman in the league.
 
In any given year going forward, I'd definitely agree, Makar and Fox over him and he's up there in the same tier with Heiskanen. With that being said, for this year, he's been the best defenseman in the league.
There’s a tier of D at the top.
Hedman, Doughty, Makar, Josi, Fox, Mcavoy, Hughes. These guy control the game when on the ice.
Then there is a tier of guys below them who are also frighin’ awesome.
This is kind of the era of phenomenal D.
 
There’s a tier of D at the top.
Hedman, Doughty, Makar, Josi, Fox, Mcavoy, Hughes. These guy control the game when on the ice.
Then there is a tier of guys below them who are also frighin’ awesome.
This is kind of the era of phenomenal D.
Josi, Hughes, Fox and Makar are the top tier
One tier below is Hedman, Doughty, Heiskenan who are very good defensively but don't have the elite offense of the top 4 imo
 
Josi, Hughes, Fox and Makar are the top tier
One tier below is Hedman, Doughty, Heiskenan who are very good defensively but don't have the elite offense of the top 4 imo
I don’t really disagree. There are several super D right now. I really don’t know if there’s been so many dominant D ever. I guess the z Habs had 3 with Savard, Lapoint, and Robinson back in the 70’s. But now there are so many great D all over the league!
 
  • Like
Reactions: Farmboy Patty
Hughes is a top Defenseman in this league...but not quite the best. I'd still take Makar and Fox over him, I'd have him up there with Heiskanen, Josi, and Karlsson..very elite company. There's a ton of great Defenseman. Slavin, Toews, Pesce.
Agree with you on your take, but Hughes has been the best defencemen this season and it’s not particularly close. Any given year, probably Makar or Fox
 

Ad

Ad

Upcoming events

Ad