Quinn Hughes 5 min major for hit on Josh Norris

Hierso

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Meanwhile, the Sens came away with a powerplay on this:



The hit was obviously a bad one, but it's hard to argue about who instigated the fight even if i feel like the calls on who started it is a coin-toss sometimes.
 

Golden_Jet

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It’s 2 mins. Boarding and softish, but no embellishment either.

I don’t understand how in God’s name they can call that a major and game misconduct.
Had no choice, if an injury (ie cut and stitches in this case) from boarding, it’s a major and a game.
See rule 41.5 I think

Even though it’s been said a dozen times or more in thread. Apparently no one is reading.
 

KevinRedkey

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Some of the blame is on Norris. I dont think he dove, but he certainly wasnty ready to be shoved, and he should have been. It's the only reasonable explanation as to why such a soft 'hit' would lead to what happened.

Again.. 2 mins would have been fair. This coming from a Sens fan.
 

Bizzare

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The hit was obviously a bad one, but it's hard to argue about who instigated the fight even if i feel like the calls on who started it is a coin-toss sometimes.
Wasn’t a “fight” because then they would have had to give Ullmark something.
 

JianYang

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Read the rule. They could (should have) reversed it to a minor after review, then the blood/game misconduct thing becomes irrelevant because it's no longer a major penalty.



The penalty should not have been held up as a major.

I'm not sure they would have the grounds to rescind it unless the review shows that the cut was resulting from a different play. I'm assuming the original call was boarding?

It sounds like the refs followed the letter of the law?
 

Sensatauro

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That's a laughably bad call. I missed the game. Did they actually review the call and still came up with 5 and a game, for this?!

League wheel of justice and rules is just truly roll of dice and see what lands. Terrible officiating isn't an outlier in the NHL(pro sports wide) frustrating to watch sometimes
 

hatterson

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No, the boarding rule has its own exception. Any injury to the face or head from boarding is an automatic game misconduct.
Had no choice, if an injury (ie cut and stitches in this case) from boarding, it’s a major and a game.
See rule 41.5 I think

Even though it’s been said a dozen times or more in thread. Apparently no one is reading.
Per the rules, the difference between major and minor is entirely discretion.

41.2 and 41.3 are:
The Referee, at his discretion, may assess a [41.2: minor/41.3: major] penalty, based on the degree of violence of the impact with the boards[/quote]
(Emphasis added, note that injury is not a direct criteria of the judgement between major and minor)

41.5 is:
When a major penalty is imposed under this rule for a foul resulting in an injury to the face or head of an opponent, a game misconduct penalty shall be imposed

However, when there’s an injury, referees almost always default to saying that the “degree of violence” is worthy of a major. I primarily think this is because it requires much less judgement, less game management, and is a more straight forward process.

It’s much easier to say and justify “well there was an injury so we gave a major” than to try to explain nuance, however that doesn’t mean the major is automatic under the rules.
 

Golden_Jet

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Per the rules, the difference between major and minor is entirely discretion.

41.2 and 41.3 are:
The Referee, at his discretion, may assess a [41.2: minor/41.3: major] penalty, based on the degree of violence of the impact with the boards
(Emphasis added, note that injury is not a direct criteria of the judgement between major and minor)

41.5 is:


However, when there’s an injury, referees almost always default to saying that the “degree of violence” is worthy of a major. I primarily think this is because it requires much less judgement, less game management, and is a more straight forward process.

It’s much easier to say and justify “well there was an injury so we gave a major” than to try to explain nuance, however that doesn’t mean the major is automatic under the rules.
[/QUOTE]

Rule 41.3 for a major boarding call says see rule 41.5 at the end of it.
41.5 is clear , player is out of game if injury to face.
 

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