GDT: Qualifying Offers, Buyout Window, & July 1st Free Agency Discussion Thread

[MarkovsKnee]

Expected. He did nothing to earn a Qualifying Offer. I imagine he's in the KHL next season.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Sadly yes.

But we gotta find a way to manage X.

He won’t back down, but we need somebody that can help him.

That's a problem that has to be rectified
No reason bigX should have to do it all
He's too valuable a player plus he had that injury

Torts probably likes him too much, but bring in Deslauriers.

If Comtois clear bring him in, or

Fischer
Hathaway

To give a little insurance.

Schenn would be nice, but there's too many d and he sounds popular.

Same with Bogosian

 

[BargainBinSpecial]

Tough break for Teasdale, injuries ruined his career. With 10 mil in capspace, they should have retained Gurianov even at 2.9 mil. for a yr. Easily tradeable for a pick at the deadline. So the Habs are left empty handed for trading Subban.

Tatar and Pac are UFAs, might as well bring them back.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Hoff is gone in a year, just eat up that contract or bury him in Laval. I'm sure someone might pick him up on waivers or wait until the deadline and you might get a pick. The Preds bought two former Sens. You gotta do it. The Habs have some 10 million on LTIR because of Price. Gallagher will blow that up soon enough. Armia, Hoff, Edmundson, Gallagher, Price, Anderson and Savard are the bad contracts from BargainBin. From Hugo, you have Allen. The Habs are cleaning up and managing them pretty nicely, so it requires some patient.

Yeah, for sure. Hoffman sucks so much though!

Imagine if Bergevin had succeeded in signing Duchene! Another player that used Montreal as leverage. Oh boy .....

 

[HomeAndHome]

For what it's worth, it doesn't mean because Teasdale and Gurianov weren't qualified, they can't sign them. They would just sign them to less than their qualifying offer. Although Teasdale's QO wouldn't be much of a raise.

They did it with Pitlick last year (not qualifying him but still signing him to less than his QO, but for 2 years).

Has there been any talk about bringing Gurianov back? I figured they wouldn't qualify him but I'm still interested at the right price.
Major hurdle may be the excess amount of forwards we have right now and if we can fit him in the lineup.

 

[Hannibal]

Torts probably likes him too much, but bring in Deslauriers.

If Comtois clear bring him in, or

Fischer
Hathaway

To give a little insurance.

Schenn would be nice, but there's too many d and he sounds popular.

Same with Bogosian

That’s why i was all over Mathieu Olivier before he was traded to CLB. Would have been perfect fit.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Has there been any talk about bringing Gurianov back? I figured they wouldn't qualify him but I'm still interested at the right price.
Major hurdle may be the excess amount of forwards we have right now and if we can fit him in the lineup.

Hughes did say they wouldn't close the door on bringing him back. But that could have simply been a political answer. But all signs show that they won't bring him back.

 

[Takeru]

As for ppg….i believe we have 3 who can come pretty close to that in Cole, Nick, and Kirby. And even Mike Matheson, a Dman, was pretty impressive last year.

cole….36 points in 46 games
nick…66 points in 82
kirby….38 points in 58
mike….34 points in 48

we are getting there….Im just not as concerned as some are about absolutely needing a Jack Eichel on our team….

We both wish for the same. Hope these guys have it in them, but until they prove they do, you can't view it as money in the bank.

Not saying we need a copy of Eichel on our team but I hope you see no team has won a cup without elite offensive contributors.
We have a bunch of decent/above average ones, but we miss the one(s) that put exceeding pressure on opposing teams, forcing them to base their game plan around countering them.
As of yet, there's no Eichel/Stone, McKinnon/Rantanen/Makar, Kuch/Point/Stamkos, O'Reilly/Tarasenko, Ovech/Kuz, Crosby/Malkin, Toews/Kane, Kopitar/Doughty etc.

We hopefully get to this caliber eventually, either in house or through trades, but we don't have it definitively atm and it will be necessary to ever win a cup. Period

 

[Schooner Guy]

Expected. He did nothing to earn a Qualifying Offer. I imagine he's in the KHL next season.

He also didn't do himself any favours by not wearing the warmup jersey even if his rationale (safety) was legit. When you're a bubble player, things like that make you an easy cut.

 

[bleuetbio]

Man, that buyout on Duchene is brutal. Between his buyout, Turris's buyout, retained salary on Johansen & Ekholm, that's $8.75m in dead cap this year. $11.75m in 2024-2025!

Meanwhile, we won't even buyout one f***ing year of Hoffman..

With all the discussions with the Predators management team this week, I wonder if we could fix something. I would be glad to take a deal like Duchene 40% retained vs Hoffman + 4e rd pick or something. It would be another opportunity to make a pitch for Askarov.

Not that I think that Duchene would be an amazing player, but was around 85 pts last year and by far the best pts producer again this year for them. He can play C and RW, which would be a great add to help Slaf and Newhook to get some better offensive drives. Over that, it would gave opportunity to Dach to keep out of Slaf and Newhook projects.

Caufield – Suzuki – Dach

Slaf – Newhook- Duchene

RHP - Monahan - Anderson

 

[red devil]

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

With all the discussions with the Predators management team this week, I wonder if we could fix something. I would be glad to take a deal like Duchene 40% retained vs Hoffman + 4e rd pick or something. It would be another opportunity to make a pitch for Askarov.

Not that I think that Duchene would be an amazing player, but was around 85 pts last year and by far the best pts producer again this year for them. He can play C and RW, which would be a great add to help Slaf and Newhook to get some better offensive drives. Over that, it would gave opportunity to Dach to keep out of it.

Caufield – Suzuki – Dach

Slaf – Newhook- Duchene

RHP - Monahan - Anderson

The Habs want Dach as a centre.

Just a bit older, but has size, can finish, physical and can drop the gloves.

Would be a great 3rd liner.

Yeah, yeah, he's not McDavid, but you need a deep, good team.

All I'm doing is getting my self pumped for nothing.

Habs will go into the season with 15 forwards, 9 d, 3 goalies lose some on waivers and have those players dealt for picks while the Habs get beat up and finish 11th

 

[BaseballCoach]

Sharagovich 3.1 Kampf 2.4

How much is Newhook going to get?

Not much leverage. I think he gets a 1 or two year deal very cheap or a 3-4 year deal at less than Dach got.

 

[BargainBinSpecial]

With all the discussions with the Predators management team this week, I wonder if we could fix something. I would be glad to take a deal like Duchene 40% retained vs Hoffman + 4e rd pick or something. It would be another opportunity to make a pitch for Askarov.

Not that I think that Duchene would be an amazing player, but was around 85 pts last year and by far the best pts producer again this year for them. He can play C and RW, which would be a great add to help Slaf and Newhook to get some better offensive drives. Over that, it would gave opportunity to Dach to keep out of it.

Caufield – Suzuki – Dach

Slaf – Newhook- Duchene

RHP - Monahan - Anderson

Duchene's reputation is not the greatest. I wouldn't want him on a Habs team filled with youngsters.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

With all the discussions with the Predators management team this week, I wonder if we could fix something. I would be glad to take a deal like Duchene 40% retained vs Hoffman + 4e rd pick or something. It would be another opportunity to make a pitch for Askarov.

Not that I think that Duchene would be an amazing player, but was around 85 pts last year and by far the best pts producer again this year for them. He can play C and RW, which would be a great add to help Slaf and Newhook to get some better offensive drives. Over that, it would gave opportunity to Dach to keep out of Slaf and Newhook projects.

Caufield – Suzuki – Dach

Slaf – Newhook- Duchene

RHP - Monahan - Anderson

Newhook isn't a center. He's much better on the wing. Dach will play center.

It's too late. Duchene is already bought out.

 

[26Mats]

With all the discussions with the Predators management team this week, I wonder if we could fix something. I would be glad to take a deal like Duchene 40% retained vs Hoffman + 4e rd pick or something. It would be another opportunity to make a pitch for Askarov.

Not that I think that Duchene would be an amazing player, but was around 85 pts last year and by far the best pts producer again this year for them. He can play C and RW, which would be a great add to help Slaf and Newhook to get some better offensive drives. Over that, it would gave opportunity to Dach to keep out of Slaf and Newhook projects.

Caufield – Suzuki – Dach

Slaf – Newhook- Duchene

RHP - Monahan - Anderson

Yeah, you have to think there was a better way of getting rid of Duchene.

 

[Chili]

If Martin Raymond is a friend of Martin St. Louis highly doubt Matt Duchene will be a Hab any time soon. Remember the Uber video in Ottawa?

 

[bleuetbio]

The Habs want Dach as a centre.

I dont think you want Dach as a center when you trade 2 bottom 40 picks for Newhook and have already Caufield and Slaf on LW

 

[MarkovsKnee]

He's really not that good. He has his games, but too often he isn't engaged enough. He's an Armia type. If you get him on his good games looks great.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

If Martin Raymond is a friend of Martin St. Louis highly doubt Matt Duchene will be a Hab any time soon. Remember the Uber video in Ottawa?

Wideman was in that video too. Hoffman was on the team, but I don't think was there. Best not to bring that team back together again. Such a toxic dressing room.

 

[CheldishGamibno]

Friedman said Reaves to TO, most likely.

With Lucic in Boston and Reavo in TO, we need a slugger to handle the workload instead of having Xhekaj having to do it all by himslef. He’s to much important for this team.

Sure but Reaves won't play more than 40 games anyways

 

[Canadienna]

Friedman said Reaves to TO, most likely.

With Lucic in Boston and Reavo in TO, we need a slugger to handle the workload instead of having Xhekaj having to do it all by himslef. He’s to much important for this team.

That's the only thing they need to do in UFA imo. We don't have many spots though.

But I agree, getting a face-puncher who's not also a promising young prospect would be nice.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

So Beaudin & Stephens did get Qualifying Offers. Good news.

 

[donghabs98]

Yeah, for sure. Hoffman sucks so much though!

Imagine if Bergevin had succeeded in signing Duchene! Another player that used Montreal as leverage. Oh boy .....

For all the flak I give Bergevin for not signing be players, we are very lucky a number of players said no to us. Imagine if Lucic or Duchene signed here. They would make the Alzner and Hoffman contracts look decent in comparison (which isnt saying much)

 

[ReHabs]

We sure came close though, didn’t we?

unfortunately for us, their superstar goalie was better than our superstar goalie in that series. The back breaker was game 2. We badly outshot them but their goalie stopped practically everything. And of course they score a goal with one second left in period 2…..that was the killer. I won’t even mention game 5’s 1-0 loss. We didn’t lose because of Kucherov or any of their super star scorers….we lost because of that monster Russian in their nets.

I don’t believe we were ever close to beating Tampa. That was a beatdown and Tampa wasn’t even trying hard.

It’s asinine to say that Tampa didn’t win because of Kucherov. Everyone contributes to a Cup Win, especially in the final games.

Tampa’s skill depth was nuts.