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I will not back of my assessment that MZA is the best player on the team. He's a fantastic player.
GDT: PS #2 - 09/20/17 | devils @ RANGERS | 7:00 PM - MSG
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I will not back of my assessment that MZA is the best player on the team. He's a fantastic player.
Ail
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lmao someone over on the NJD board is ragging on Chytil for his celly.
I too make fun of kids who are playing in their first NHL game and scored a goal.
I'm sure they'd say the same thing if it was their 18 y/o 1st rounder.
eco's bones
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Hayes, Zuccarello and Kreider all really, really good. Vesey had a good game too. On defense Shattenkirk was awesome--Skjei and Smith pretty good.
So all the vets played well or well enough.
Of the youngsters tonight it pretty much revolves around Chytil and Andersson. Filip with a big goal did not look out of place. Andersson playing with lesser players played smartly.
Georgiev was pretty good in net. I'm not sure he handles the puck very well. Pedrie was okay. Gilmour I didn't care for. Not sure I would play either in another preseason game. Gropp--quiet game, doesn't look nearly as good as 50 or 72. Tambellini had a huge chance and didn't finish was a little better than Gropp. Catenacci was okay.
On Desjardins--I don't think he's worth signing if you can get something better out of Chytil, Andersson or Nieves and so far it looks like we would.
A final comment on Shattenkirk. Calm with the puck--his passing and his creative vision were really on display and top notch and he defended well. There wasn't anything not to like.
So all the vets played well or well enough.
Of the youngsters tonight it pretty much revolves around Chytil and Andersson. Filip with a big goal did not look out of place. Andersson playing with lesser players played smartly.
Georgiev was pretty good in net. I'm not sure he handles the puck very well. Pedrie was okay. Gilmour I didn't care for. Not sure I would play either in another preseason game. Gropp--quiet game, doesn't look nearly as good as 50 or 72. Tambellini had a huge chance and didn't finish was a little better than Gropp. Catenacci was okay.
On Desjardins--I don't think he's worth signing if you can get something better out of Chytil, Andersson or Nieves and so far it looks like we would.
A final comment on Shattenkirk. Calm with the puck--his passing and his creative vision were really on display and top notch and he defended well. There wasn't anything not to like.
Ail
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Zucc can elevate anyone but Chytil made some really smart plays tonight. He's good for a rookie at breaking up plays, winning board battles and calmly moving the puck under pressure. No doubt that goal was a lot of work from others as well but what a rip. Definitely an impressive showing. Andersson had a much better first game, but not bad at all tonight considering his situation. Hoping they both keep this up and make the first 9 games interesting.
Brooklyn Rangers Fan
Change is good.
Thoughts, ranked in order of good to bad:
Impressed me:
CHYTIL - holy crap. Even before the goal, I was blown away. The last time I recall a Ranger rookie in his frst camp being that good, it was Brian Leetch. Seriously, he reminded me of (and I'm NOT saying he'll be as good as) Mario Lemieux.
KREIDER - that was vintage "on" Kreider. That's a 30-goal, allstar winger right there. Especially liked to see it in a game where he was given a letter. Need to see consistency, of course.
HAYES - showed legit second line center play. He needs to keep that up, and we'll be good. Again, need to see consistency.
SHATTENKIRK - as advertised. Game-changer on the PP, and on the rush. Was beaten on a scoring chance late, but on balance was eye-opening. I'll take a little bad with a ton of good.
SKJEI - power and speed, as always. I love McD, but he may soon be our best LHD.
ZUCCARELLO - vintage. Amazing passing and awareness.
ANDERSSON - subtle, but continues to impress. I think Chityl has the higher upside, but love what I see from him in a middle six center role. Did he lose a faceoff or miss an assignment? Perhaps, but I didn't catch it.
VESEY - good Jimmy. Not as obviously excellent as some of the others, but made a bunch of solid plays, including especially the pass to Hayes.
Okay/up-and-down:
LUNDQVIST - was in position and reacting well. Don't blame him for either goal, and in the first in particular, I thought he made some outstanding saves. No crazy, goal-robbing moves, but classic Hank. I was happy to see that.
SMITH– mostly quiet and getting the puck out of danger. Solid, not spectacular. His calling card.
PUEMPEL - more engaged than usual. A couple of real scoring chances. No major liabilities that I recall.
TAMBELLINI - really good through the first half of the game. Fell off in the second. Looked to me what Gropp should look like.
GEORGIEV - good instincts, excellent positional play, and solid reflexes. Legit prospect. Was worried to see him lose the puck a couple of times, however.
Expected to be cut:
PEDRIE - started out well passing and defending, but felt he folded a bit under pressure as the game wore on. Not ready to give up on him yet, but he needs to progress.
GROPP - I have been a fan, but he's too much of a passenger tonight. Needs to use his skills more.
DESHARNAIS - it's nice that he scored a goal by being in front, but other than that, I saw a 13th forward's game. Thought he dragged down his linemates' games. Out-played by both Chytil and Andersson for the bottom 6 cener role, IMO.
DESJARDINS - started out well, and became less noticeable as the game wore on. Non-factor in the last period and a half.
STAAL - unchanged from last year, unfortunately.
CATENACCI - didn't notice him at all. For D, that's okay. For a forward...
GILMOUR - whoof. Flashes some signs in the O-zone, but small, slow, and out of postion on D.
Impressed me:
CHYTIL - holy crap. Even before the goal, I was blown away. The last time I recall a Ranger rookie in his frst camp being that good, it was Brian Leetch. Seriously, he reminded me of (and I'm NOT saying he'll be as good as) Mario Lemieux.
KREIDER - that was vintage "on" Kreider. That's a 30-goal, allstar winger right there. Especially liked to see it in a game where he was given a letter. Need to see consistency, of course.
HAYES - showed legit second line center play. He needs to keep that up, and we'll be good. Again, need to see consistency.
SHATTENKIRK - as advertised. Game-changer on the PP, and on the rush. Was beaten on a scoring chance late, but on balance was eye-opening. I'll take a little bad with a ton of good.
SKJEI - power and speed, as always. I love McD, but he may soon be our best LHD.
ZUCCARELLO - vintage. Amazing passing and awareness.
ANDERSSON - subtle, but continues to impress. I think Chityl has the higher upside, but love what I see from him in a middle six center role. Did he lose a faceoff or miss an assignment? Perhaps, but I didn't catch it.
VESEY - good Jimmy. Not as obviously excellent as some of the others, but made a bunch of solid plays, including especially the pass to Hayes.
Okay/up-and-down:
LUNDQVIST - was in position and reacting well. Don't blame him for either goal, and in the first in particular, I thought he made some outstanding saves. No crazy, goal-robbing moves, but classic Hank. I was happy to see that.
SMITH– mostly quiet and getting the puck out of danger. Solid, not spectacular. His calling card.
PUEMPEL - more engaged than usual. A couple of real scoring chances. No major liabilities that I recall.
TAMBELLINI - really good through the first half of the game. Fell off in the second. Looked to me what Gropp should look like.
GEORGIEV - good instincts, excellent positional play, and solid reflexes. Legit prospect. Was worried to see him lose the puck a couple of times, however.
Expected to be cut:
PEDRIE - started out well passing and defending, but felt he folded a bit under pressure as the game wore on. Not ready to give up on him yet, but he needs to progress.
GROPP - I have been a fan, but he's too much of a passenger tonight. Needs to use his skills more.
DESHARNAIS - it's nice that he scored a goal by being in front, but other than that, I saw a 13th forward's game. Thought he dragged down his linemates' games. Out-played by both Chytil and Andersson for the bottom 6 cener role, IMO.
DESJARDINS - started out well, and became less noticeable as the game wore on. Non-factor in the last period and a half.
STAAL - unchanged from last year, unfortunately.
CATENACCI - didn't notice him at all. For D, that's okay. For a forward...
GILMOUR - whoof. Flashes some signs in the O-zone, but small, slow, and out of postion on D.
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Pavel Buchnevich
"Pavel Buchnevich The Fake"
Losing in the second round after having to make the playoffs via a wild card spot is not contending.
Chytil definitely stood out in terms of guys making a case for themselves. He was given a good opportunity and went with it. Andersson was definitely given a much smaller role with some bad linemates and did alright but considering the circumstances I'm not really saying anything good or bad for him based off this game.
The NHLers were all at least good except for Staal (I mean he probably wasn't outright terrible but made enough mistakes and stands out like a sore thumb compared to Skjei, Shattenkirk, etc). DD seemed solid at least. Rest of people seemed like AHLers we assume them to be
The NHLers were all at least good except for Staal (I mean he probably wasn't outright terrible but made enough mistakes and stands out like a sore thumb compared to Skjei, Shattenkirk, etc). DD seemed solid at least. Rest of people seemed like AHLers we assume them to be
eco's bones
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One other thing--I think if the Rangers are contemplating keeping Andersson and/or Chytil they should make sure they play with good players---not be 4th liners/part time players. They're going to have to live with all the growing pains that come with that too. Based on what I've seen so far either one of them looks pretty damn good and at least very very close.
eco's bones
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That's interesting--we pretty much assessed everything the same on everyone.
Irishguy42
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NoQuitInNewMexico
it's okay cause it's all just the way it should be
I think the better no-names (Carey + Schneider) were on the other team, guys like Gilmour were probably given one chance to have a huge game
eco's bones
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Oscar Lindberg
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Shattenkirk da god
I’ve been waiting years for Shattenkirk to light up MSG and it feels so good to see it happen now
I’ve been waiting years for Shattenkirk to light up MSG and it feels so good to see it happen now
Pavel Buchnevich
"Pavel Buchnevich The Fake"
The GM will then have to control AV because he has not shown that he agrees with you on that.
Really enjoyable game with the ending.
Let's start with the bad:
Gilmour- Nothing there... let's not give him an extended look when the others showed a lot better. This system needs that lefty-righty balance.
Staal- Marc... come on Marc... come on... he gaffed due to Gilmour being all over the place... but I didn't see a guy that was trying to earn it out there.
Catennacci- Novelty minutes.. no NHL threat.
Puempel- I liked the fight. Showed him good Canadian boy effort with his fists.. the rest was meh. Perimeter shots don't do ****.
Pedrie- I thought both he and Gilly fumbled the puck a lot. Not sure if he was hurt, but I didn't see much of him in the 3rd.
Gropp- Was very disappointed... looked lost, wasn't the lead forechecker with his speed, wasn't wrecking guys... tried to play the slot role... which I don't think he's ready for yet... did not show the wheels... looked around a lot. In other words the anticipation was low.
Too many LH shots on the PP=Ineffective. Too many lost pucks.. not enough shooting lanes.
Face-Off play- 2nd game now.. coaches need to prep their guys.. this is zero tolerance... guys are getting juked into penalties by linesmen. There was a show of wtf camaraderie between opponents after each faceoff violation. There was one penalty called when a before a guy even set up for the faceoff and his foot crossed the magic red line.
Another one where the linesman juked a guy with a fake toss. It's like watching 5 graders out there.
Things I liked:
Hayes- Drove the net... was very effective... and looks like he realizes he doesn't have to pay a physical price on those drives... that should result in more goals and chances.
Vesey- Looked faster, crisper, smarter. Always been a smart player, but not an engaged one... today he played a very focused game.
Kreider- Looks like he's in better shape than ever... the speed wasn't always on full display, but when he turned it on.. his timing was great.. you can see him reading off of the puck carrier and creating holes... this is a smart thing these days.
Chytiljuice- Shine on the new toy is bright... effortless skater, long reach and he's got the head and hands.. made a number of nifty zone entries, and knows how to create lanes. Wasn't stationary.. it's just one game.. but they might consider keeping him in the AHL if he keeps this up... he's a big kid... and will get bigger. Smooth.
Lias- Quieter game.. but he played to his role. They wanted him in a checking role, and that's what he played. I liked that about him... linemates were weaker.. but he made some solid crafty plays. He's a smart smart player.
Shatts- I really liked the no look passes.. he was on point tonight... the patience and wisdom of a true PPQB was on display... he controlled the pace of the play with his passing... and the puck movement was crisp.
Let's start with the bad:
Gilmour- Nothing there... let's not give him an extended look when the others showed a lot better. This system needs that lefty-righty balance.
Staal- Marc... come on Marc... come on... he gaffed due to Gilmour being all over the place... but I didn't see a guy that was trying to earn it out there.
Catennacci- Novelty minutes.. no NHL threat.
Puempel- I liked the fight. Showed him good Canadian boy effort with his fists.. the rest was meh. Perimeter shots don't do ****.
Pedrie- I thought both he and Gilly fumbled the puck a lot. Not sure if he was hurt, but I didn't see much of him in the 3rd.
Gropp- Was very disappointed... looked lost, wasn't the lead forechecker with his speed, wasn't wrecking guys... tried to play the slot role... which I don't think he's ready for yet... did not show the wheels... looked around a lot. In other words the anticipation was low.
Too many LH shots on the PP=Ineffective. Too many lost pucks.. not enough shooting lanes.
Face-Off play- 2nd game now.. coaches need to prep their guys.. this is zero tolerance... guys are getting juked into penalties by linesmen. There was a show of wtf camaraderie between opponents after each faceoff violation. There was one penalty called when a before a guy even set up for the faceoff and his foot crossed the magic red line.
Another one where the linesman juked a guy with a fake toss. It's like watching 5 graders out there.
Things I liked:
Hayes- Drove the net... was very effective... and looks like he realizes he doesn't have to pay a physical price on those drives... that should result in more goals and chances.
Vesey- Looked faster, crisper, smarter. Always been a smart player, but not an engaged one... today he played a very focused game.
Kreider- Looks like he's in better shape than ever... the speed wasn't always on full display, but when he turned it on.. his timing was great.. you can see him reading off of the puck carrier and creating holes... this is a smart thing these days.
Chytiljuice- Shine on the new toy is bright... effortless skater, long reach and he's got the head and hands.. made a number of nifty zone entries, and knows how to create lanes. Wasn't stationary.. it's just one game.. but they might consider keeping him in the AHL if he keeps this up... he's a big kid... and will get bigger. Smooth.
Lias- Quieter game.. but he played to his role. They wanted him in a checking role, and that's what he played. I liked that about him... linemates were weaker.. but he made some solid crafty plays. He's a smart smart player.
Shatts- I really liked the no look passes.. he was on point tonight... the patience and wisdom of a true PPQB was on display... he controlled the pace of the play with his passing... and the puck movement was crisp.
Inferno
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everyone seems to suck with Staal.
seriously.
Think back..when was teh last time someone played with staal and looked great?
Anton Stralman.
That was a long friggin time ago.
I dont blame Gilmour as much tbh...i just dont know if he sucks or if hes just catching the stench from Staal.
Staal was noticeably awful tonight.
seriously.
Think back..when was teh last time someone played with staal and looked great?
Anton Stralman.
That was a long friggin time ago.
I dont blame Gilmour as much tbh...i just dont know if he sucks or if hes just catching the stench from Staal.
Staal was noticeably awful tonight.
Oscar Lindberg
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lmao someone over on the NJD board is ragging on Chytil for his celly.
I too make fun of kids who are playing in their first NHL game and scored a goal.
Yeah I looked, they’re also complaining about Shattenkirk
They can have fun with their Pionk knockoff aka Butcher and the rest of the trash defensemen on the team save for Severson
eco's bones
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Watching the replay again--Danneyko makes a great point about Chytil's game winning goal. Filip put himself in the right place to take a shot by moving back a couple steps--it made him available for the pass from Zucc that he could one time.
On the point that Mikos makes about the face-offs--the Rangers need to figure that one out. It ain't that hard.
On the point that Mikos makes about the face-offs--the Rangers need to figure that one out. It ain't that hard.
I'm going to try and reign in my excitement for Chytil, but it's going to be difficult.
He carries the puck through the neutral zone with power, speed and finesse in a way very reminiscent of Eric Staal. What's gravy is he's got the toolbox too - was making heady passing plays all night. As an early 18 year old.
You want to see a prime example of tools and no toolbox? Mike McLeod on the Devils. Reminds me of Mike Rupp; he's really fast straight away, is big, powerful and has good hands. But once the puck is on his stick he just loses a step. He will be a better player than Rupp, but I wouldn't hold my breath for anything more than a third liner.
He carries the puck through the neutral zone with power, speed and finesse in a way very reminiscent of Eric Staal. What's gravy is he's got the toolbox too - was making heady passing plays all night. As an early 18 year old.
You want to see a prime example of tools and no toolbox? Mike McLeod on the Devils. Reminds me of Mike Rupp; he's really fast straight away, is big, powerful and has good hands. But once the puck is on his stick he just loses a step. He will be a better player than Rupp, but I wouldn't hold my breath for anything more than a third liner.
NoQuitInNewMexico
it's okay cause it's all just the way it should be
Daneyko always sticks out to me as a really good commentator, but I never see Devils fans pumping his tires, and he was a great player for them. Weird.
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