Prospect Info: Prospect Info and Discussion VIII - Future Canes and other Jurcos

[Ole Gil]

Reinforcing that playing the game wrong and intentionally not protecting yourself doesn’t do anyone any good either. The people who commit suicide after violent careers often have cte, but I’ve seen studies that say normal people have cte too? It’s too early to throw blanket statements like hitting people leads to suicide at an early age from brain damage. I agree the evidence is there that it needs to be studied and understood. I also agree that the intentional bad hits needed to go away. I feel lost of them have, so now the eye is upon anyone who throws a generally clean hit on an unsuspecting player (who should be suspecting).

The guys throwing these hits is being treated like they’re Rico Torres. They’re not. Most of these hits people argue about were good intentioned hits that went wrong. 100% good hit expectations require no hitting. That’s where we are headed anyways.

The player here put himself in a vulnerable position. That needs to be just as bad as the hit. It always was before and it’s the part of old school that needs to carry on. Equal parts trying to lay of vulnerable people and people not letting themselves be vulnerable in the first place. Penalize them both. People will lose their minds in the beginning but if we’re going to outlaw hitting then don’t let people get away with showing their numbers like that. Intentional or not.

If you put yourself in a bad position, you're going to get boarded a few times, and eventually injured. So there's some built in disincentive.

And I think you overstate the villainy associated with these guys. Only the worst of the worst get a real rep.

 

[bleedgreen]

If you put yourself in a bad position, you're going to get boarded a few times, and eventually injured. So there's some built in disincentive.

And I think you overstate the villainy associated with these guys. Only the worst of the worst get a real rep.

The first thing you see when one of these hits on the main board is.....”disgusting”...... “scumbag”..... “intentional and he doesn’t belong in the league”.

I don’t think I overstate it at all. The masses lose their mind with every hit.

There’s not a lot of disincentive. If it happens to you and you get hurt no one says you did it to yourself, they tell you that you were the victim of an awful hit and that he should or will be punished.

How did this conversation start? The guy who roots for the other team coming over here to tell us our prospect is a repeat offender who’s going to get suspended and showing us the video.

This is something I actually care about and during the season will probably get really annoyed. I don’t really care here. It’s juniors. None of it carries over. I hope he keeps hitting and just moves on from this one.

 

[Sens1Canes2]

The first thing you see when one of these hits on the main board is.....”disgusting”...... “*******”..... “intentional and he doesn’t belong in the league”.

I don’t think I overstate it at all. The masses lose their mind with every hit.

There’s not a lot of disincentive. If it happens to you and you get hurt no one says you did it to yourself, they tell you that you were the victim of an awful hit and that he should or will be punished.

How did this conversation start? The guy who roots for the other team coming over here to tell us our prospect is a repeat offender who’s going to get suspended and showing us the video.

This is something I actually care about and during the season will probably get really annoyed. I don’t really care here. It’s juniors. None of it carries over. I hope he keeps hitting and just moves on from this one.

Brother in arms.

 

[Generalsupdates]

Rees was suspended 6 games for the hit I posted on here before

 

[geehaad]

Rees was suspended 6 games for the hit I posted on here before

Ridiculous. Why suspend him when they just kill him instead.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Rees was suspended 6 games for the hit I posted on here before

I'm fine with the suspension, except that it means someone actually sat down after the fact and looked at that video and somehow still saw a hit to the head.

 

[bleedgreen]

Rees was suspended 6 games for the hit I posted on here before

And your still wrong.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

This:

I don’t think I overstate it at all. The masses lose their mind with every hit.

Conflicts directly with this:

How did this conversation start? The guy who roots for the other team coming over here to tell us our prospect is a repeat offender who’s going to get suspended and showing us the video.

Hits from behind are dangerous. Hits to the head are dangerous. Some hits are borderline, and most people agree with that in most discussions. I don't think "the masses lose their mind with every hit." No matter what the rule is, there will always be gray area, and the most upset will always be the supporters of the hittee, as in this case.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

Rees was suspended 6 games for the hit I posted on here before

Hey, just FYI, good to see another Greensboro Generals fan on here. Jeff Brubaker forever! Old time hockey!

 

[Lempo]

Hey, just FYI, good to see another Greensboro Generals fan on here. Jeff Brubaker forever! Old time hockey!

You were complaining of hits a second ago!

 

[tarheelhockey]

You were complaining of hits a second ago!

The Greensboro Generals didn't bother hitting, they skipped that part and went straight to the fighting.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

You were complaining of hits a second ago!

In actual hockey. Old ECHL hockey was hockey only by the very broadest definition.

 

[TheBigKahuna]

I used to attend Ice Caps games, and Monarchs games. There was a huge talent gap from ECHL to AHL back then.

 

[HisIceness]

The Greensboro Generals didn't bother hitting, they skipped that part and went straight to the fighting.

And their brethern before them, the Greensboro Monarchs sometimes ordered their fans to fight the opposition. Well maybe not order, but they did it anyways.

 

[UncMike]

Will the Red/White game in Charlotte tomorrow be streamed online?

 

[UncMike]

I didn't see a Charlotte thread so I posted my question here

 

[Navin R Slavin]

I didn't see a Charlotte thread so I posted my question here

Bumped it to the front page. Check again.

 

[CandyCanes]

 

[Lempo]

That boy seems to have very...

... Bold and Beautiful name.

 

[CandyCanes]

 

[CandyCanes]

 

[geehaad]

Holy crap that is some terrible defense from the guy who was playing him man-on. Keystone cops.

 

[Ole Gil]

Holy crap that is some terrible defense from the guy who was playing him man-on. Keystone cops.

Looked like Reggie Miller running through all those picks to get open.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

"Circling the Wagons" like that looks like Joni Pitkanen, minus the "go to the net at the end and shoot" part.

The picks were hilarious.

 

[bleedgreen]

Holy crap that is some terrible defense from the guy who was playing him man-on. Keystone cops.

It’s actually comical to watch. The first guy covering him there gets blatantly picked. The second gets gets rocked by his own teammate. It’s a three stooges short.